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Rules are rules don't let one slise cause in a few years time there will be 10.
Queensland try picking some queenslanders.


 
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If Qld can pull off a victory, it will be beyond miracle.

You're gonna need help from the Ref.


 
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hunt will go to 6, Munster to FB and holmes on the wing
Could just play hunt on the wing- he’s great u der the high ball.



 
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Heartbroken?

interesting choice of words.

next week, he's announce his new love - the kiwi's


 
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Today's events remind me of this song from a few years ago:



 
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Today's events remind me of this song from a few years ago:



 
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💯 agree mate.
This is what I meant by my comment "What a **** show".
I just didn't have time to expand on it.
Only thing I don't agree with is watching AFL, I've been living in Perth for close to 12 years now and still can't get into it 🤣



Agree with the Origin eligibility screw-up: Surely that's sorted by season start?! That's not to say I'm advocating QLD and NSW change rules every year, but if they do change rules, they are in place and everyone knows:
1. What they are.
2. Who they affect as of 1 Jan.
3. Which players are available as of 1 Jan.

What harm would be done for QRL/NSWRL to publically publish a "State of Origin Eligibility List" every season? It's not like it would only list 20 or so players so opposing RL would be able to think in pre-season "Right, those bastards can only pick..."

I watched Friday's AFL game - Lions v Cats.

I can't remember where I read it, but someone reckoned AFL and NFL were polar opposites in terms of "Sports best watched on TV": AFL was much better watched at the venue, NFL, well, why would you spend money getting seats, etc, when everything was actually better on TV?


All Hail Helen Keller, Patron Saint of Rugby League Officials.
 
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Qld have published the eligible players and have done for quite a while, Ronaldo has been there for a while. Nsw is the only one that doesn’t publish eligibility



Please provide the link?


“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”​
 
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While NSW have their own reasons for raising the eligibility ruling, the decision has saved the NZ national team.

While we will always have passionate ones like DWZ wanting to represent NZ without question, we are struggling enough to field a squad as it is with the number of defections we've had in recent years. If this wasn't enforced you'd pretty much have most 14 or 15 year olds plucked out of the NZ systems by NRL scouts and whichever club you land with would determine whether you were with NSW or QLD. That's not real representation of your state.

I'm disappointed for Mulitalo, but glad sanity has prevailed.



What do you think about NZ having its choice (in league and union) of players from the other (pacific) islands?


“I believe I’m the best six at this club. I’m just doing my best week-in week-out to play No.6. That’s where I want to play.”

Scott 'Drinky' Drinkwater
 
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RL is such an incompetent rabble. Surely QRL and the NSWRL would have a compiled list of all available players that fall into the necessary criteria to play for the state etc.

Muppetry at it's finest.


 
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For me it's just another example of the NRL's incompetence and inability to use some common sense.
Let's not hide the fact that QRL doesn't even understand their own "eligibility' rules.


“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”​
 
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I think they do which is why they presented Ronaldo as a Queenslander in U/18 and were given the thumbs up they thought they had snuck him through.

The matter should have been resolved in 2017.



Probably giving them far too much credit if you think they thought they had snuck him in. Doubt they understood their eligibility rules in 2017 either.

The eligibility rules are a joke and always will be in order to protect their SOO brand.


“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”​
 
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I genuinely couldn't care less whether he is eligible or not as I don't really care about the NRL or origin much this year BUT this is symptomatic of the whole regime at present. How can it get to game day and then be bought up as an issue?

You've now got a kid who was pumped for the game of his life omitting himself and going from one of the most exciting days of his life to this, what a train wreck. Don't the NRL have someone to oversee this? No need to answer, there is no professionalism in NRL admin.

And like Gus's point or not, the NRL have shown themselves willing to bend and change rules on a whim but not on the day of their showpiece event? Again, just inconsistency all round.

And of course to make up for it, you just know every single decision is going to go Qld's way tonight because heaven forbid there is another shellacking and Vlandys cops heat once again for knee jerk, unneeded and spontaneous decisions destroying this once great product, particularly two days after a women's game that showed how good league used to be and should still be.

Absolutely pathetic from an absolutely pathetic modern iteration of league. I'll be continuing to watch and enjoy AFL until such time is this modern Aldi version of league reverts back to the brand name version.




good email.

yes, whole thing reeks of amateurism

not good for anyone


 
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maybe this eligibility BS wasn't enough clickbait for the media as they have started rehashing the Molo/Ackermann shoulder charge incident, now that Molo realises his dream by playing Origin



JOIN THE #KEVOLUTION


don’t know why the media is lapping it up … fans don’t want to know this ****… it’s a distraction to everyone


 
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I don't really follow origin but out of curiosity looked it up.
What's the logic behind not being eligible if you've played for a tier 1 (Eng/NZ) nation at international level but perfectly fine if you've played for Samoa or Tonga if i understood it correctly. I know the logic from Australia's representative squads benefit but just makes no sense otherwise.
Part of the reason is world cups bro.

The league bosses wanted their cake and eat it too. The exemption for T2 nations means that the Island nations are more able to field more respectable line ups.

It was supposed to be a situation where NZ and Aus pillaged the Islands...and any Island players they did not want, could then bolster their Island national teams.

Tonga flipped that on its head with the new nationalism, players turning down big money and high profile benefits of Origins and Anzac test in favour of Tonga....all the while taking massive pay cuts to do it.

What Tonga have done, is what rep football is meant to be about, playing for your spiritual home colours be they state or international colours.

This will derail the thread probably but a lot of Kiwis get their noses out of joint over the Tonga movement.

Too bad. New Zealand does not own the people born here, they ain't livestock, what is in their hearts and spoken around the family table is what counts...not some colonial ownership of people.


 
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We should just tell them to shove it and not play. Not practical but its how i feel and i bet plenty of others do as well. Its a disgrace that it got this far through the NRL then NSWRL decided to question it at the death and then he isnt allowed to play. I certainly wont be watching anymore Origin or NRL while the people running the show can firstly wreck the game with their stupid rule changes then do this to a player in this way.




No, no, no… we / I need this game

Got a ton of cash riding on NSW and want to cash in after… 😂


 
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Part of the reason is world cups bro.

The league bosses wanted their cake and eat it too. The exemption for T2 nations means that the Island nations are more able to field more respectable line ups.

It was supposed to be a situation where NZ and Aus pillaged the Islands...and any Island players they did not want, could then bolster their Island national teams.

Tonga flipped that on its head with the new nationalism, players turning down big money and high profile benefits of Origins and Anzac test in favour of Tonga....all the while taking massive pay cuts to do it.

What Tonga have done, is what rep football is meant to be about, playing for your spiritual home colours be they state or international colours.

This will derail the thread probably but a lot of Kiwis get their noses out of joint over the Tonga movement.

Too bad. New Zealand does not own the people born here, they ain't livestock, what is in their hearts and spoken around the family table is what counts...not some colonial ownership of people.



Interesting post, sport and international contests have always been a boon for those pushing nationalist or anti-colonialist agendas. We in Aus love to beat England at cricket and rugby. In League we've done it so often I almost cheer on the Poms. (almost)
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No, no, no… we / I need this game

Got a ton of cash riding on NSW and want to cash in after… 😂



What odds did you get, $1.05 lol
 
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JT: “The NRL made the call that if he does play the game will be null and void”
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I dunno about you guys but I reckon I might have called their bluff on this one and run him out. If QLD get spanked again they probably don’t fight his eligibility and scrub the result. Oops. If they win, by some miracle, off to the Courts we go. The Origin Circus rolls on 🤡 🎪


 
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I hope everyone even just a little bit annoyed that origin isn't origin anymore with all of the foreign born guys didn't vote.

This weekend is supposed to be rep round with NZ and all the islands playing. I wonder which camp Ronaldo would've been in all week. He's already played for Samoa.


 
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