Coronavirus sucks.. but the NRL lives!

[susan]

It’s absolutely not the flu. They’ve been really clear about it. It’s a strain of Coronavirus.

Death toll a massive 6 in Australia after its been here for months. Flu killed thousands here in the high risk category last year.
In the US in 2018 60000 died from flu.HINI killed 22000 in 2009 and barely a whimper from anyone - and it made this look like the common cold.100 deaths in US so far and the world is in free fall!

Yes it definitely isn’t flu.

FMD we are panic merchants. Islolate the old and infirm and give them all the protection they need with no expense spared and let the rest of us get on with it.

Suicides will outnumber deaths from this if we keep this madness up.
Elite athletes won’t get sick if they catch it They are being kept in lockdown already to protect them and others.Let them play. If they don’t you might as well kiss our club goodbye.

 

[Budgie]

Death toll a massive 6 in Australia after its been here for months. Flu killed thousands here in the high risk category last year.
In the US in 2018 60000 died from flu.HINI killed 22000 in 2009 and barely a whimper from anyone - and it made this look like the common cold.100 deaths in US so far and the world is in free fall!

Yes it definitely isn’t flu.

FMD we are panic merchants. Islolate the old and infirm and give them all the protection they need with no expense spared and let the rest of us get on with it.

Suicides will outnumber deaths from this if we keep this madness up.
Elite athletes won’t get sick if they catch it They are being kept in lockdown already to protect them and others.Let them play. If they don’t you might as well kiss our club goodbye.

Happy to listen to you on football Susan, but I’m sticking with the scientists on this one.

 

[47MVEagle]

33 new deaths overnight in the UK.

475 new deaths in Italy.

 

[MuzztheEagle]

Happy to listen to you on football Susan, but I’m sticking with the scientists on this one.

Which scientists though? All we seem to be hearing is that governments are acting on the best advice. But we rarely hear from the people actually giving that advice with next to no explanation on how that conclusion was reached.
This feels like just another political argument of the day.
People have drawn lines based on their political allegiances or the first thing they heard. There is limited discussion about the actual risks and very limited data to indicate what that would be. We really need to be discussing this thoughtfully rather than listening to the loudest opinion of the day but that is exactly what it feels like is happening and it's driving the hysteria in society and financial markets.

 

[maxta]

33 new deaths overnight in the UK.

475 new deaths in Italy.

Italy is a good example of high death rates for who are actually effected by this virus
65% of the nation have high blood pressure and 99% of those taken, had 2-3 previous disease or illness.

 

[MuzztheEagle]

Interesting reading on the Great Depression:

Despite Hard Times, People Lived Longer During the Great Depression | HISTORY

During the 20th century, Americans’ lifespans tended to rise and fall depending on the economy—but not in the way you might think.

www.history.com

and also on suicide rates:

U.S. Suicide Rates Are the Highest They've Been Since World War II

They're up 33% since 1999

time.com

At the peak of the great depression suicide rates were around 0.02% of the population in the US. So I'd guess that @susan 's claim of suicide deaths outnumbering CV deaths would be unlikely. Plus all the decreased work and emissions could be great for our health and the environment in the long run 🙂
I'm really hoping that the silver lining from all this will be that we start to think a little smarter and cooperatively as a whole. But I'm probably more terrified of the idea that the stupidity of humanity will make things worse for all of us, regardless of which way we respond.

 

[Chip and Chase]

Has there been any evidence of starvation in any of these countries that have high rates of infection ?? I can't understand this "strip the supermarkets bare" mentality. Reading this morning that there have been busloads of people from metropolitan melbourne descending on small regional towns and pillaging their supermarkets. Could be an urban myth or could be a media beat up, but if true it's a sad indictment on the current state of this country.

 

[MuzztheEagle]

Has there been any evidence of starvation in any of these countries that have high rates of infection ?? I can't understand this "strip the supermarkets bare" mentality. Reading this morning that there have been busloads of people from metropolitan melbourne descending on small regional towns and pillaging their supermarkets. Could be an urban myth or could be a media beat up, but if true it's a sad indictment on the current state of this country.

I live 2hrs from Melbourne (about an hour from the outskirts). Town of 5,000 but we have 3 supermarkets. And yes we have had buses of people turn up to supermarkets. Aldi told them to piss off, but all our supermarkets are wiped out.
Even the deli and Woolies was emptied on Sunday arvo. No pasta, oats, tomato sauce, anything sanitary related (nappies, wipes, hand soap and sanitiser). I expect that there will be violence if it happens again.

 

[Chip and Chase]

I live 2hrs from Melbourne (about an hour from the outskirts). Town of 5,000 but we have 3 supermarkets. And yes we have had buses of people turn up to supermarkets. Aldi told them to piss off, but all our supermarkets are wiped out.
Even the deli and Woolies was emptied on Sunday arvo. No pasta, oats, tomato sauce, anything sanitary related (nappies, wipes, hand soap and sanitiser). I expect that there will be violence if it happens again.

Disgraceful

 

[Kevinward777]

Has there been any evidence of starvation in any of these countries that have high rates of infection ?? I can't understand this "strip the supermarkets bare" mentality. Reading this morning that there have been busloads of people from metropolitan melbourne descending on small regional towns and pillaging their supermarkets. Could be an urban myth or could be a media beat up, but if true it's a sad indictment on the current state of this country.

My local IGA told me last night that people are showing up from the city and just cleaning them out every day.

 

[highlandeagle]

Death toll a massive 6 in Australia after its been here for months. Flu killed thousands here in the high risk category last year.
In the US in 2018 60000 died from flu.HINI killed 22000 in 2009 and barely a whimper from anyone - and it made this look like the common cold.100 deaths in US so far and the world is in free fall!

Yes it definitely isn’t flu.

FMD we are panic merchants. Islolate the old and infirm and give them all the protection they need with no expense spared and let the rest of us get on with it.

Suicides will outnumber deaths from this if we keep this madness up.
Elite athletes won’t get sick if they catch it They are being kept in lockdown already to protect them and others.Let them play. If they don’t you might as well kiss our club goodbye.

Hooray finally a voice of reason and common sense.

 

[lsz]

A couple of things

1. I work with an agri bank and there is no drama over food supply here. The panic is completely misguided
2. My wife works in the health care industry and gets daily updates from the department of health. While there is some confusion out there it is very sensible to try take steps now to avoid a larger problem.

This is not political, it is not fear mongering. It is an attempt to get ahead or flatten a curve which is coming. As for comparisons with flu etc all that says to me is that we do not take that seriously enough anyway

 

[Budgie]

Coronavirus Dashboard

Live coronavirus dashboard tracker. See data, maps, social media trends, and learn about prevention measures.

ncov2019.live

Refresh once a day. You’ll see it isn’t a government or media beat up and there is actually an attempt to save lives by flattening the curve.
The thing that’s pissing me off the most about this is that we’re all having to rely on non believers to keep us safe.

 

[MuzztheEagle]

Coronavirus Dashboard

Live coronavirus dashboard tracker. See data, maps, social media trends, and learn about prevention measures.

ncov2019.live

Refresh once a day. You’ll see it isn’t a government or media beat up and there is actually an attempt to save lives by flattening the curve.
The thing that’s pissing me off the most about this is that we’re all having to rely on non believers to keep us safe.

I think this is a very serious situation and I'm doing all that I can to help "flatten the curve"....BUT this dashboard is not that remarkable.
About 150,000 people die around the world every day and saying that 9000 people have died over months is not a very persuasive argument.

 

[globaleagle]

For those who live by "she'll be right" as your mantra - Go outside and lick a public hand rail then.

If you can't see the problems in an overwhelmed heath system, including exhausted or sick personnel, lack of respirators, and lack of beds then I guess it's time to teach pigeons some chess. There's plenty of info out there from the professionals who are also busy trying to manage the crises and may not have time to spoon-feed the masses on an hourly bases. there's nothing political about this at all.

Using the number of deaths of anything vs the virus is not a persuasive argument, and hospitals aren't simply waiting around for people to contract the virus.

If a hospital has 200 beds and 3 respirators....it makes sense to me to do our best to avoid 2000 people turning up needing 50 respirators, not to mention the other reasons people need to go to hospitals; accidents, cancer, milkshakes.


edit: The consumeristic 'rape' of the supermarkets due to panic buying is hugely disappointing and I have no faith in humanity if something much more drastic comes along.

PS: the water in Venice is clear again. 🙂

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Just regarding suggestions that only old sick people are in any real danger - I just checked the age of that Chinese doctor who died, he was only 51 years old.

Senior Wuhan doctor dies from coronavirus as authorities start to 'round up' patients

In city of 11m, officials threaten with punishment those who delay reporting symptoms

www.theguardian.com

 

[Fibro Eagle]

Is COVID 19 any different to other viruses eg: Swine , SARS
The Difference I see is the panic buying and the shut downs
Are they just trying to minimise the death rate so we don’t get to the heights of the previous pandemic’s
Lots of misguided information
Should we just carry on as normal with extra personal hygiene and accept that people will die
What concerns me is all the stupid people that are making this pandemic a whole lot worse than it needs to be

 

[mjb136]

Interesting that my mate saw DCE down at Freshy chicken shop today, doesn't seem like players are in lockdown...

 

[Wombat64]

For those who live by "she'll be right" as your mantra - Go outside and lick a public hand rail then.

If you can't see the problems in an overwhelmed heath system, including exhausted or sick personnel, lack of respirators, and lack of beds then I guess it's time to teach pigeons some chess. There's plenty of info out there from the professionals who are also busy trying to manage the crises and may not have time to spoon-feed the masses on an hourly bases. there's nothing political about this at all.

Using the number of deaths of anything vs the virus is not a persuasive argument, and hospitals aren't simply waiting around for people to contract the virus.

If a hospital has 200 beds and 3 respirators....it makes sense to me to do our best to avoid 2000 people turning up needing 50 respirators, not to mention the other reasons people need to go to hospitals; accidents, cancer, milkshakes.


edit: The consumeristic 'rape' of the supermarkets due to panic buying is hugely disappointing and I have no faith in humanity if something much more drastic comes along.

PS: the water in Venice is clear again. 🙂

Mmmmmmm ..... public hand rail .....

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

And in the latest bull**** I can’t get Ventolin , and as a Asthma sufferer that could be disastrous.

It’s not a prescription medication any longer so anyone can buy it.

I still have my prescription version ( steroids) but I’m limited to how much of that I can use.

So toilet paper , hand sanitizer, , rice, pasta, UHT milk , MINCE and now Ventolin!!

I know this isn’t NRL related but had to vent somewhere!!