Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

Yeh the cap looks very tight for the next two seasons from listening to Mestrov today.

The best thing for the club is to have a coach signed up for a few seasons long term planning fosters sustainable success and builds a strong foundation for the team's future.

By prioritizing long-term goals, Seibold can develop a cohesive team culture, nurture young talent, and implement strategic systems that align with the club's values and objectives.

This approach may not hit the success we all want though it allows for gradual improvement and adaptation, helping the team withstand the inevitable challenges and pressures of the game.

Moreover, having Seibold extended is good for long-term planning which encourages investment in player development, ensuring a steady pipeline of skilled footballers who can contribute to the team's success over time.

While instant success may provide short-term satisfaction, a focus on long-term planning ultimately enhances team resilience, stability, and the ability to compete at a high level consistently, well done to the club’s administration for recognising the gap and extending Seibold.
Absolutely, 100% correct!

Just look at the 3 most successful clubs of the over the past 10+ years and you'll see one thing they all have in common:
1. Melbourne Storm - long term coach, Craig Bellamy (been there forever and a day).
2. Sydney Roosters - long term coach, Trent Robinson (longest serving coach in that club's history).
3. Penrith Panthers - long term coach, Ivan Cleary (second stint at the panthers, astute signing to bring him back to the club, doesn't look like going anywhere and the club has been going from strength to strength ever since).

For Seibold to have any hope of bringing success back to our club, he needs to be given a fair and decent shot at doing so, and that can only happen by giving him a right and proper, durable tenure in the job.
 
Absolutely, 100% correct!

Just look at the 3 most successful clubs of the over the past 10+ years and you'll see one thing they all have in common:
1. Melbourne Storm - long term coach, Craig Bellamy (been there forever and a day).
2. Sydney Roosters - long term coach, Trent Robinson (longest serving coach in that club's history).
3. Penrith Panthers - long term coach, Ivan Cleary (second stint at the panthers, astute signing to bring him back to the club, doesn't look like going anywhere and the club has been going from strength to strength ever since).

For Seibold to have any hope of bringing success back to our club, he needs to be given a fair and decent shot at doing so, and that can only happen by giving him a right and proper, durable tenure in the job.
100% chopping & changing to the new , latest , greatest , prospect will only set us back further.

Some very poor performances at times last year but not sure the fault for those can be laid at the feet of the coach.

However , what he needs to enforce is “ no position is safe “ , and especially if there’s players underneath knocking at the door.

The players I see on this position are , Froggy, AoA & Burbo

They might get the run on start in 25 but there should not be a guarantee it’ll remain that way.

And Jake , god love him for his passion , needs to go to the prop rotation.
 
Todays Telecrap.



SEIBOLD SEES ‘SADERS

Manly coach Anthony Seibold and assistant coach Jim Dymock are heading to New Zealand to observe rugby giants the Crusaders at work.

Seibold and Dymock will spend three days working alongside the coaching and players at the multiple Super Rugby champions.

“We’ll also do a bit of shared learning,” Seibold said.

“They want to see what we are doing and our planning. We’ll get the opportunity to spend a couple of days observing their staff and players.

”I’m looking forward to it.”


Seibold has already used his off-season to pick the brain of some sporting giants, having headed overseas to watch the LA Rams and then meet Robin Thorpe, the head of performance at Red Bull in Santa Monica.

Thorpe spent a decade as the head of performance at Manchester United, working for a time alongside legendary manager Sir Alex Ferguson.
 

Anthony Seibold signs two-year contract extension with Manly Sea Eagles​

Just a few years ago Anthony Seibold’s coaching career appeared over, but the Manly mentor has completed an incredible comeback after leading the Sea Eagles back from the brink, he reveals his future plans to BRENT READ.

Anthony Seibold’s resurrection is just about complete and now he wants a premiership to put the exclamation point on one of rugby league’s great comeback stories.
Just a few years ago, Seibold’s coaching career was on the rocks. Even he concedes that most people in the NRL never thought they would hear from him again.

Seibold, having walked away from the Brisbane Broncos, circumnavigated the globe and dipped his toe into other codes as he rediscovered his love of coaching, rebuilt his reputation and waited for an opportunity.

He eventually landed on his feet at Manly and has now been rewarded with a two-year contract extension after leading the Sea Eagles back from the brink in the wake of Pride jersey fiasco.

The Sea Eagles were on their knees when Seibold arrived. They were a club in crisis but there is blue sky again on the horizon, their comeback from disaster culminating in last season’s finals appearance, which featured a win over the Bulldogs before they exited at the hands of the Sydney Roosters.

The next step is to make it to the grand final. Manly will start next season among the favourites to win a premiership and Seibold believes the pieces are falling into place.

Thanks to his new deal, Seibold has at least three years to give the fans on Sydney’s northern beaches what they desperately crave – their first premiership since 2011.

His new deal will take him through until the end of 2027.

“There was talk about it during the season and then we decided to put it off until the end of the season,” Seibold said.

“What it does is it gives the club stability. The owners have indicated they want stability. We have made some really good strides over the last 24 months.

“I think everyone can clearly see we have improved as a group. We’ve done a lot on building connection within the group and building belonging in the group.

“We’ve got world-class staff now. We feel like we’ve got a really good team here off the field and on the field.

“The owners and the board have been very supportive of what we’ve been doing over the last 24 months and want us to continue in that in that fashion.

“It’s a good opportunity for stability for our club and clarity. The mission is we want to win. So we’re working really hard to try to take our group to that next level.”

WINNING A PREMIERSHIP

There is no question Manly has made headway on Seibold’s watch. He took over a club and playing group with gaping wounds in the wake of the Pride jersey disaster.

Manly lost their last seven games of the 2022 season and crashed out of finals contention. Coach

Des Hasler was sent packing and Seibold was given the opportunity to revive the club’s fortunes.

In his first season in charge, the Sea Eagles won 11 games but missed the finals. Last season

there was tangible improvement as Manly won 13 games, finished seventh and won their opening final against the Dogs.

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They have improved in every facet of the game over his two years in charge. Next on Seibold’s wishlist is to win a title.

“That is the mission,” Seibold said.

“All our planning is around how to complete that mission. We made some giant strides last season. Out of all the other seven teams in the top eight, we beat six of those seven, which was equal to anybody in the competition.

“So what we’ve shown is that we can beat any team in the competition on our day, but for us to go to the next level it’s about reliability and repeatability.

“So that is sort of what we’re striving for internally – how can we be more reliable. So our whole program is designed around producing better footy actions and more quality actions.

“Every club’s mission is to win but we can’t go from losing eight games in a row and having the Pride jersey debacle to winning the competition the next year.

“That is unrealistic. It is a step by step process.”

THE TRANSITION

Seibold’s two-year extension means he will preside over a period of change at the Sea Eagles. The most significant will be the likely retirement of captain Daly Cherry-Evans at some point during his tenure.

Cherry-Evans will turn 36 early next year and is yet to decide what he wants to do beyond next season, when his contract expires.

He has been part of the furniture at Manly for as long as anyone can remember. His departure will leave a gaping hole in terms of experience and class and Seibold will likely have to navigate a seminal moment for the club.

SEA EAGLES OFF-CONTRACT IN 2025​

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Jake ArthurEthan Bullemor
Gordon Chan Kum TongDaly Cherry-Evans
Clayton FaulaloAitasi James
Dean MattersonAaron Schoupp
Toafofoa SipleyTommy Talau
Siosiua TaukeiahoJazz Tevaga
“Chez is turning 36 in January, Jake Trbojevic turns 31 (in February),” Seibold said.
“There will be a period of change on the field and off the field. My ultimate goal would be, whoever is the next coach after me, to hand over the club to them in good condition and be part of that process.
“I’ve got a really narrow focus for the next three years. Everyone is up and about on the northern beaches (when Manly win), we had more sellout crowds than for as long as the club can remember, the community is right behind the group.
“But as I said, we need to be a bit more reliable and be able to repeat week to week because we have shown we can beat any team in the comp.
“We’ve got to find a bit more.”

Seibold and Manly CEO Tony Mestrov at Brookvale Oval when the coach was first appointed. Picture: Jeremy Piper

Seibold and Manly CEO Tony Mestrov at Brookvale Oval when the coach was first appointed. Picture: Jeremy Piper

EMBRACING CHANGE … AND CHAOS

Seibold has a thirst for knowledge and nothing has changed this off-season. After initially spending time with the performance staff at the Los Angeles Rams and the Red Bull high performance centre, Seibold visited New Zealand last week to watch the Crusaders at work.
The players have been on a journey of discovery as well. Seibold and his staff have tested their limits in the pre-season, taking them out of their comfort zone.
One day a week, their world is shaken up.
“They know what time they have to start and they know what time they have to finish, but they don’t know what is going on during the day,” Seibold said.
“They might think they are going to a recovery session at the beach and it is a one-hour wrestle session.
“They think they might be going into the gym after a wrestle session and it is actually ice baths and sauna before they do their gym.
“It is something we do to see how they handle a bit of chaos.”

Will Seibold win a premiership during his time at Manly? Picture: Matt King/Getty Images

Will Seibold win a premiership during his time at Manly? Picture: Matt King/Getty Images

As much as he is focused on improving his playing group, Seibold has been on his own journey to become a better coach and person.
“I feel enormous amount of pride because I’ve had to work really hard to improve myself as a
person and as a coach,” Seibold said.
“I went to a different code, a different nation. I worked really hard there. Most people in the NRL never thought they would hear of me again or see me coaching a team again.
“But it’s never been about proving people wrong. It’s been about proving people right. I have been given some really great opportunities and I am very grateful.
“Manly made a really big call two years ago to give me the head coaching role and I feel like I’ve repaid that.
“Everyone can clearly see we’ve made some really big strides forward and Des did a
tremendous job with the group.
“A lot of the younger players that I’m coaching, have really developed over the last two years but a lot of the groundwork was done by Des and guys like Scott Fulton, who recruited guys like Haumole (Olakau’atu) and those types of guys to the group.
“But I’m really proud of coming back.”
 
Well, all that does is guarantee no premiership this decade. We were shooting for 6 decades in a row, but no chance now.
 
Great stuff team. Credit where it's due to Penn.

We need stability.
We need an ongoing succession plan.
We need trust.

You get none of them with coaches looking over their shoulder every other week.
 
I think the right call based on performance thus far.

As with all coaches though, he needs to keep us moving forward or the contract will mean little more than a nice payout
 
I don't understand resigning a coach now. Stability you say. Sounds like he doesn't rock the boat too much, probably doesn't have the power Des had.

In the unlikely event we are 2-8 after 10 games we might not be that happy to have him around that long.. and from his point of view if we 8-2 and the Storm or Roosters come knocking with big $$$. I guess it's only a contract.

I think he has done well considering our roster, which id rank middle of the comp 6th to 10th is a par finish.

I suppose it is unfair but our coaches whole future relies on the number of games Tom plays each season.

We all know this true, because we don't really have team just a couple of star players who try to drag some ex Tigers and assorted others up to first grade standard.

The good news is at least 10 clubs would like to travelling as well as Manly.
 
I don't understand resigning a coach now. Stability you say. Sounds like he doesn't rock the boat too much, probably doesn't have the power Des had.

In the unlikely event we are 2-8 after 10 games we might not be that happy to have him around that long.. and from his point of view if we 8-2 and the Storm or Roosters come knocking with big $$$. I guess it's only a contract.

I think he has done well considering our roster, which id rank middle of the comp 6th to 10th is a par finish.

I suppose it is unfair but our coaches whole future relies on the number of games Tom plays each season.

We all know this true, because we don't really have team just a couple of star players who try to drag some ex Tigers and assorted others up to first grade standard.

The good news is at least 10 clubs would like to travelling as well as Manly.


Resigning him now means he continues to have an eye on the now and the future.

If a coach is in the last year of his deal and if essentially coaching for a contract then he may come across situations whereby he is choosing between....say Wadell and Navale one week. Waddell may be the safe bet for that week in terms winning the game but Navale getting more minutes would help his development and overall enhance us moving forward in the following year....a coach in the last year of his deal is going Waddell.

Crude example but allows the coach to look at continuing the build the club rather than simply keep his job.
 
It might be interesting to hear what the other 15 coaches are saying about their upcoming 2025 team & aspirations (It's probably similar).
Seibold is doing what he can to help the team climb up the NRL ladder, while 15 other coaches are doing their damnedest to push Manly down the ladder.
As Manly supporters we need to give the bloke a fair go!
 

Anthony Seibold signs two-year contract extension with Manly Sea Eagles​


The Sea Eagles were on their knees when Seibold arrived. They were a club in crisis but there is blue sky again on the horizon,
Brent Read ...
There is blue sky again Brent Read because you choose to forget about the Penn approved Rainbow Marketing Mess that destabilised and divided the Manly People and brought the club to its knees
Seibold should consider him self lucky that the Disastrous Rainbow is still not around
The Incompetent Brent Read should consider him self lucky to be hired by any reputable Media Organisation

Penns Faceless Men did not have the courage to face the Media and own up to their disastrous Rainbow Marketing Mess
 
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It might be interesting to hear what the other 15 coaches are saying about their upcoming 2025 team & aspirations (It's probably similar).
Seibold is doing what he can to help the team climb up the NRL ladder, while 15 other coaches are doing their damnedest to push Manly down the ladder.
As Manly supporters we need to give the bloke a fair go!
He has been given a Go and this forum is all about our Passionate Manly views on how he is Going
You could not be more fair than that at the Silvertails

Last but not least
Manly People are not Good losers and neither should we be .
( Show me a good loser and I will show you a loser)

And Finally
When the Winning Starts . The Whinging stops
Because at Manly
We All love Manly Premiership Winners
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Fair dinkum ... there are people on here that would boo Santa Clause ...
Hi Woodsie , Hope your well and thank you for posting your perspective views

Seibold is no Santa Clause feathered friend
If he was he would have delivered Manly a Grand final Win
 
The money Ball is in DCE court .
DCE's rare stock keeps rising in the NRL open market due to lack of quality halves
DCE is injury free and still playing top level footy
DCE is a better option on one leg than any other alternatives we currently stock
 

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