Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

[manly al]

Just wonder sometimes how much the caliber of or ideally well credentialed assistant or specialist assistant coaches maybe sometimes has a positive influence on how well a head coach may go or getting the best out of a side .
Tend to think that Seibld is doing O K in general
Also tend to think in recent times that someone like Flanaghan and not detracting from Seibold 's ability or better points , was a quite handy assistant .
Not too sure with someone like Cartwright and sure plenty of other instances of similar or perceived comparisons .
One good thing in recent times is a real sense of team spirit and mainly typified with that very courageous win against the Dragons at Brookie last season .
But still the general problem defensively , especially against the better sides , combined with some meek capitulations against a couple of the less rated sides last season .
Whether lack of attention to detail or getting better formations , probably combined - coach - [ assistants included ] and some individual players to take main responsibility for this prevailing short coming .
Then in another example , the 2 nd coaching stanza with Des in the initial stages , some quite good resolute defence overall then fell away towards the end .
So not sure what to make of that overall but the problem has lingered on and on a not irregular basis unfortunately , even allowing for the slightly different mode of play with an increased ruck speed and 6 agains in recent times .
When one looks on both sides of the ruck , a couple of less then mobile middles but edge , halfs and outside backs , not lacking in general ability or mobility .
Anyway, noticed in some of Mestrov 's recent comments , the requirement to ideally improve the defensive outcomes .
Certainly do not lack the ability to score points but conceding too many , just have to find some way of addressing and getting on top of that of course

 

[BOZO]

Tend to think that Seibld is doing O K in general

The doing OK perspective ...

Doing Ok has not got us into to the Grand final ring and Winning Grand finals
Barrett made the finals and took manly into 6th place he did OK
Des in his underwhelming second coming made the finals and he did OK
Seibold made the the finals and took Manly into 7th place and he did OK

The moral of the story ...
OK just does not cut it
We need to start to TKO all the way to Grand final Winning day

 

[silvereagle]

He deserves another shot. Let’s see if he can fix the right side defence and bring thru a couple of young lions in the pack.

I think that is the secret sauce to how we go one step better in 25. Maybe several steps better. I really like young Navale and this new guy Patolo who has already played a bunch of NRL games. If Seibold can integrate these type guys into our monster pack and fix the obvious issues in our backline, then I think we can compete for the title. Absolutely doable.

 

[maxta]

Manly have closed the gap in 2024 , but need more consistency, better defence and need 1 or 2 more players to have "breakout seasons" if we want a shot at GF glory.
Fingers crossed and stay positive and just don't know what 2025 will deliver.....hopefully a serious contender and just maybe that GF to maintain that rich history of a GF win or 2 - every decade !

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Manly have closed the gap in 2024 , but need more consistency, better defence and need 1 or 2 more players to have "breakout seasons" if we want a shot at GF glory.
Fingers crossed and stay positive and just don't know what 2025 will deliver.....hopefully a serious contender and just maybe that GF to maintain that rich history of a GF win or 2 - every decade !

2025 is a very important year for our coach , he’s had improvement year on year so the challenge in 25 is to get to top 4.

Not sure he has the cattle to do that so yes we are going to need a lot of players to either emerge or step up ( hopefully both happens).

 

[Bloke on the hill]

I think that Penrith & Melbourne will probably dominate again in 2025.
But...Go Manly!

 

[BOZO]

hopefully a serious contender and just maybe that GF to maintain that rich history of a GF win or 2 - every decade !

If we want to be a serious contender we should take our success seriously and never limit our selves as there are no limits we can accomplish accept the limits we place on our own thinking
So we should think Big and Become the Benchmark and the Biggest and Best of All

The Current Benchmark in the New NRL Era has been set by the 4 Premiership in row Wining Panthers
Our Aim should not only be to make Manly Great Again but to Make Manly the Greatest club of All and a 5 premiership wins in a row is our challenge

Is this Possible ?
If those bustards can do it why cant we ?
Every thing is Possible when you Invest in Great people that have what it takes to make things possible

All Records are Meant to be Broken
Every Record is meant to be shattered and Broken
The Panthers had the Balls to Break 4 in a Row
One Day One Club Will Surely Break this Record
I Hope Manly Invests in those Great Record Breaking People that will get the Job Done

 

[BOZO]

I think that Penrith & Melbourne will probably dominate again in 2025.
But...Go Manly!

The most Dominant People have always Dominated in this World since day one
Nothing has changed

 

[eaglebuzz]

I think that Penrith & Melbourne will probably dominate again in 2025.
But...Go Manly!

I think we have everything we need to compete except a hooker. I'm really hopping that either Simpkin or Muagututia are able to force Croker into Reserve Grade this year.

 

[Brocky]

We couldn’t beat the roosters with their spine out, think we are in for a long wait

 

[krusty]

We couldn’t beat the roosters with their spine out, think we are in for a long wait

We could and we did in round 2 we just didn’t on that day.

 

[maxta]

1 thing I just wanna say on Seibold, agree he needs to keep Manly on the improve and results are what will justify this, but the team has definitely looked "better" since he arrived in the way of playing a good modern brand of footy only let down by defensive lapses and lack of thrust from dummy half,,,,,,as opposed to Des final term of going backwards and looking like a vintage style footy that wasn't working and good old Trent "furniture " Barrett....no more questions your honour.
Agree 2025 is the decider of Seibs coaching future at Manly and I reckon this has been stated by the club regardless of the possible 3 year upgrade in the paper's

 

[Tragic Eagle]

He needs to recognise we need a sharp number 9 and when simpkins played last year we looked good.

 

[BOZO]

1 thing I just wanna say on Seibold, agree he needs to keep Manly on the improve and results are what will justify this, but the team has definitely looked "better" since he arrived in the way of playing a good modern brand of footy only let down by defensive lapses and lack of thrust from dummy half,,,,,,as opposed to Des final term of going backwards and looking like a vintage style footy that wasn't working and good old Trent "furniture " Barrett....no more questions your honour.
Agree 2025 is the decider of Seibs coaching future at Manly and I reckon this has been stated by the club regardless of the possible 3 year upgrade in the paper's

Well said feathered friend @maxta
And may I add ....
Pressure at Manly is a Privilidge and only comes to those that earn it

Ron Willey
Our fist Manly Premiership Winning coach was also our Dual Premiership Winning coach
Who Inhaled Pressure and Exhaled Success !!

 

[BOZO]

We could and we did in round 2 we just didn’t on that day.

No one wins grand finals in round 2 feathered friend
Premiership Winning Sea eagles hit their straps in finals time when the whips are cracking

 

[lsz]

Manly have closed the gap in 2024 , but need more consistency, better defence and need 1 or 2 more players to have "breakout seasons" if we want a shot at GF glory.
Fingers crossed and stay positive and just don't know what 2025 will deliver.....hopefully a serious contender and just maybe that GF to maintain that rich history of a GF win or 2 - every decade !

Mate a question for you

Why is there such a lack of talent when it comes to future NRL coaches? There are only a limited amount of jobs but there appears to be a lack of talented assistants etc coming through.

Is it the nature of the assistant role?

 

[maxta]

Mate a question for you

Why is there such a lack of talent when it comes to future NRL coaches? There are only a limited amount of jobs but there appears to be a lack of talented assistants etc coming through.

Is it the nature of the assistant role?

I guess what teams Ange peeler, physicalwant are ex players who have seen the game evolve and change with the times.... it you are touching on something important in relation to this.
Old school day even 80's n 90's and there was 1 coach and maybe a few others as in recruitment and trainer or 2....now if you check Manly for example there are 25 positions from ball pump, physics, business, ruck coach, backline shift and the list go's on....with this the head coach becomes more a oversee to everything as the specifics they used to control are now in the lap of 20+ specific coaching roles.... with this , the role has changed and the best are more like leaders of men types Bellamy, Bennett and obviously a great young leader is Cleary
I feel Seibs is growing and not at this level, but seems to be going in the right direction and obviously those blokes hired in those other 25 roles play a decent part in the modern game
That's my best attempt explanation or opinion mate

 

[maxta]

Mate a question for you

Why is there such a lack of talent when it comes to future NRL coaches? There are only a limited amount of jobs but there appears to be a lack of talented assistants etc coming through.

Is it the nature of the assistant role?

Much interest is in ex players and assistant coaches can kind of think outside the square and look for input and views that can help fine tune, especially those all important 1% areas and from a different viewpoint.
The successful ex players who coach are those who have seen the game evolve and changed with the times....
Old school days, even 80's n 90's and there was 1 coach and maybe a few others as in recruitment and trainer or 2....now if you check Manly for example there are 25 positions from ball pump, physics, business, ruck coach, backline shift and the list go's on....with this the head coach becomes more a oversee to everything as the specifics they used to control are now in the lap of 20+ specific coaching roles.... with this , the main role has changed and the best are more like leaders of men types Bellamy, Bennett and obviously a great young leader is Cleary and that assistant is basically a 2IC.
I feel Seibs is growing and not at this level, but seems to be going in the right direction and obviously those blokes hired in those other 25 roles play a decent part in the modern games success stories
That's my best attempt explanation or opinion mate

 

[lsz]

It just strikes me as unusual that there are not more ciraldos out there

 

[Dion Johnson]

I think Seiblod is underrated as a coach, he is a former player, an academic, clear communicator and a leader.

For me what I have seen from Seibold he is a strategic visionary who emphasises both performance and player well-being.

With the complexity of the game and the high stakes involved, Seibold is not just a tactician but also a skilled leader who can inspire and manage a diverse team of footballers and coaching staff.

His leadership style is adaptable, allowing him to tailor his approach to meet the individual needs of players while maintaining the overall cohesion and culture of the team.

Supporting Seibold is a robust staff of over 20 specialists, each contributing to the team's success. This team typically includes assistant coaches with expertise in specific areas such as defense, attack, and skills coaching etc.

This extensive support network allows Seibold to focus on strategic planning and leadership, ensuring that every aspect of player development and team performance is optimized for success.

He hasn’t had the success of the best performed coaches in Bellamy, Cleary or Bennett but I have seen enough to have some confidence it will happen with the progress he has been part of since taking the head coaching position.