Brookvale said:Hindmarsh blatenly knocked on in front of his posts.
This was the worst decision of the night.
Brookvale said:Hindmarsh blatenly knocked on in front of his posts.
Rusty said:What pisses me off, and not just in this game is the tendency of the ref to call a knock on regardless of the direction the ball is lost in. Last night one knock on clearly went backwards and was regathered, and should be play on.
Lost ball does not always mean knock on, but these days as soon as there is a lack of control the refs call knock on.
On the forward pass rule, there are certain players in the NRL are allowed to throw as many as they like, they even get them labeled as 'great cut out passes' by the media again and again, Thurstan, Hayne, Carney, Marshal, Gasnier, Slater, Inglis. It seems like there is an ignore rule for these guys. And the reason is that the linesman has no reason to call it.
If they call it and get it wrong, unlike a ref they can and will be sacked when the big name player complains. If they call it and get it right they get no credit, and if they don't call it and it was a forward pass no one seems to hold them responsible anyway.
This rant is not specific to last night, but certainly there were a few in the game, personally I thought the reffing was horrid, both ways.
For instance how could the wolfman try not be benifit of the doubt? It was definition BOD, the only reason it wasn't was the defending player was Hayne.
I'm trying to understand what you're saying susan. You're saying if a player stops and passes the ball backwards out of the hands and it floats forward, then that is not a forward pass.susan said:fonz
im glad you put the rule in black and white.where the ball ends up has nothing to do with it.it is simple-if it comes from the hands flat or backwards it is ok.It has nothing to with Hayne moving or stopping or anything else-from the hands is the only point taht matters.
Rex said:I'm trying to understand what you're saying susan. You're saying if a player stops and passes the ball backwards out of the hands and it floats forward, then that is not a forward pass.susan said:fonz
im glad you put the rule in black and white.where the ball ends up has nothing to do with it.it is simple-if it comes from the hands flat or backwards it is ok.It has nothing to with Hayne moving or stopping or anything else-from the hands is the only point taht matters.
What I'm trying to understand is how a stationery player passes the ball backwards out of the hands and causes it to go forward. A sudden gust of wind? Players breathing heavily? Curvature of time-space? Or was Isaac Newton wrong?
codewana said:Surely the movement of the ball should be governed relative to the ground and not the player?
TokyoEagle said:Why ? The ball comes out of the players hands, not off the ground. The player is running forward so momentum must be taken into account.codewana said:Surely the movement of the ball should be governed relative to the ground and not the player?
Wolf has been hammered over that one but I thought he had little choice as Lyon had gone in (maybe not trusting DCE to handle his man?)TokyoEagle said:IMO the 2nd Hayne pass was definitely forward, i called it at the time. The 1st i thought was forward but gave them the benefit of the doubt. It was a huge defensive blunder by the Wolfman and the commentator got it right, Luke Burt will not score many tries as soft as that 1.
Next time you are speeding along the freeway try tossing an old TV set out the window and see what happens.codewana said:Need to find my physics textbook about this... I just don't think the player's momentum would affect the ball's trajectory.
Rex said:I'm trying to understand what you're saying susan. You're saying if a player stops and passes the ball backwards out of the hands and it floats forward, then that is not a forward pass.susan said:fonz
im glad you put the rule in black and white.where the ball ends up has nothing to do with it.it is simple-if it comes from the hands flat or backwards it is ok.It has nothing to with Hayne moving or stopping or anything else-from the hands is the only point taht matters.
What I'm trying to understand is how a stationery player passes the ball backwards out of the hands and causes it to go forward. A sudden gust of wind? Players breathing heavily? Curvature of time-space? Or was Isaac Newton wrong?
codewana said:Surely the movement of the ball should be governed relative to the ground and not the player?
Fonz said:Rex said:I'm trying to understand what you're saying susan. You're saying if a player stops and passes the ball backwards out of the hands and it floats forward, then that is not a forward pass.susan said:fonz
im glad you put the rule in black and white.where the ball ends up has nothing to do with it.it is simple-if it comes from the hands flat or backwards it is ok.It has nothing to with Hayne moving or stopping or anything else-from the hands is the only point taht matters.
What I'm trying to understand is how a stationery player passes the ball backwards out of the hands and causes it to go forward. A sudden gust of wind? Players breathing heavily? Curvature of time-space? Or was Isaac Newton wrong?
Have a look at the replays. Hayne was not stationary whilst throwing either ball as others have stated to prove their point. Amateur arguement.
codewana said:Surely the movement of the ball should be governed relative to the ground and not the player?
It's the rule mate. Sorry. As SER8 said, throw an apple out of your car window. Does it float forwards even though you've thrown it backwards codewana?
DSM5 said:Seaeaglerock8. I tried your experiment re tossing my old TV out the window of my speeding car. The TV definitely left my hand in a backward motion but continued to spiral back until it hit the ground. I was ahead of the impact so I didn't see it smash itself forward. Needless to say the pass from Hayne was forward. Imo it left the hand in a forward manner and continued to go forward. I saw it at the time and thought I screamed into your ear about it. The lines on the ground proved the fact. I'd agree with a prior poster who said that deeds committed by a select few players seem to be adjudged differently to that of other mere mortals on the field by referees.
Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() |
1 | 1 | 0 | 38 | 4 |
![]() |
2 | 2 | 0 | 32 | 4 |
![]() |
2 | 2 | 0 | 16 | 4 |
![]() |
2 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 4 |
![]() |
2 | 1 | 1 | 26 | 2 |
![]() |
2 | 1 | 1 | 18 | 2 |
![]() |
2 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 2 |
![]() |
1 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 2 |
![]() |
0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
![]() |
2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
![]() |
2 | 1 | 1 | -2 | 2 |
![]() |
2 | 1 | 1 | -30 | 2 |
![]() |
1 | 0 | 1 | -2 | 0 |
![]() |
2 | 0 | 2 | -9 | 0 |
![]() |
2 | 0 | 2 | -16 | 0 |
![]() |
1 | 0 | 1 | -38 | 0 |
![]() |
2 | 0 | 2 | -54 | 0 |