Winners /Losers in “ Coachgate”

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  1. MadMarcus

    By:MadMarcusDec 4, 2018
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    In order of best to worst imo

    Manly - coming off a low base to arguably one of the best coaches in the comp and with Manly DNA to boot

    Penrith - I don’t rate Hook at all, never understood why they got rid of Cleary in the first place

    Broncos - a bit early to tell, but Siebold looks the goods at this stage

    Tigers - I think Maguire is overrated

    Souths - I think Bennett is past it
     
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    • Terry Zarsoff

      By:Terry ZarsoffDec 4, 2018
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      Souths players were confused at Redfern Oval today, when Darius Boyd turned up at training.
       
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      • Lyonstomenzies

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        Jury is out on all of the said coaches.

        The jury will have a decision the 1st week of October.

        Then we will see whom won and lost.
         
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        • Mark from Brisbane

          By:Mark from BrisbaneDec 4, 2018
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          Fair point , but you can have an opinion!!
           
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          • Ryan

            By:RyanDec 4, 2018
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            I'm in that boat too mate.

            Also, Manly will be medium to long term winners. Not sure in the short term if he can change the culture that quickly.

            Hoping though.
             
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            • Go manly

              By:Go manlyDec 4, 2018
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              Great post mate

              I see Milat and Redfern Benny as failures

              Souffs are 101 to 1 for the most losses so I invested 50

              Please please if manly can’t win let them no good fairy tale vermin protected species fleas come last

              We should not ever let them back in the comp
               
            • bob dylan

              By:bob dylanDec 5, 2018
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              Souths got the best end of that deal in my opinion.

              After all it was the Brothers that wanted DWayne at the club and got him. King Rusty shelled out big coin for a "hut" and now thy are all happy.

              The Bronco's only got their 3rd pick, tried and failed to get both Green and Bellamy. Cant see how thats a win other than avoiding Typhoid Walters

              Surely the jury is out on Seibold (as others have stated). One swallow doesnt make a summer. Get back to me in 5 years.
               
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              • mozgrame

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                Seibold has been coaching now for 13 years. His first shot at the nrl top coaching job seen his side finish equal first with games won....3rd with points difference.

                Tough school....
                 
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                • mave

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                  And equal with the two teams with the most flexible of salary caps.
                   
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                  • mozgrame

                    By:mozgrameDec 5, 2018
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                    And in front of the suspect sharks.....@;)
                     
                  • Woodsie

                    By:WoodsieDec 5, 2018
                    played strong, done good.

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                    .... and at his 4th club in 5 years ..... does he have committment issues? ...... You just want to shag him because he is a QLD'er ......
                     
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                    • Woodsie

                      By:WoodsieDec 5, 2018
                      played strong, done good.

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                      PSS ... if people can bag Bennett with 7 premierships, world cups, SOO clean sweeps, and 800 NRL game ..... then Siebold is fair game ....
                       
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                      • bob dylan

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                        Yep it gets tough once your team starts losing and or key players want to leave/get injured/ fallout with the coach.

                        Lets see how he handles the bad times.

                        The Bronco's will punt him as quick as anything if he doesn't get the immediate results that are expecting. Anything less than a top 4 finish will be viewed as a fail.
                         
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                      • weev

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                        The biggest winner of all is Trent Barrett.

                        No work gets paid, with a crap record. All the other coaches have to get out of bed.
                         
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                        • Mark from Brisbane

                          By:Mark from BrisbaneDec 5, 2018
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                          I think the Penn’s have played that card very well, he’s still contracted , is being paid SO can’t work for anyone else.

                          More than one way to skin a cat isn’t there!!
                           
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                          • bob dylan

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                            But surely it would be better having him at a rival club to **** them over??
                             
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                            • HoldenV8

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                              For mine, the measure of a good coach isn't how many premierships they win with strong teams or if they coach stacked teams to representative success. Its how they can get a relatively average or weak squad to perform.

                              I know Bennett gets labeled as a "Supercoach" by the media, but the only time he has had success is when he has had stacked sides, or when other dominant sides had their issues. When he has had an average or weak side (see Newcastle 2014), he's done virtually nothing with them. But instead of sticking around at Newcastle and building them up after Tinkler's mining money dried up, he ran straight back to the comfort of the rich Broncos.

                              Don't get me wrong, he is a good coach. Even the best squad won't win unless they have a decent coach pointing them in the right direction. But I just don't think he is as good as what people think he is. I think he's been very lucky to have the sides he has had over the years which has definitely helped with his success (for any of the premierships Brisbane won in the 90s.....would Bennett have won anything if he was coaching a Balmain or Western Suburbs instead?). And at 68 (69 on new years day), you have to wonder if its starting to pass him by.
                               
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                              • Mark from Brisbane

                                By:Mark from BrisbaneDec 5, 2018
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                                To me he’s well past it BUT does have a lot of experience so that’s good for something I guess.
                                 
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                                He had an immediate impact at souths. Don't see why he won't at the broncos. It will be interesting, that's for sure!
                                 
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                                • mozgrame

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                                  Yeah....good one punchy!! So,a bloke that knows what he wants and knows how to get there, and won't settle for bullsh1t has commitment issues? Tell me old mate....are you married? LOL!!!!

                                  I'm strarting to worry about your fascination with blokes shagging each other. Is your love for Wayne because he is around the right age for you??? :inlove:

                                  For the record....I'm not putting the boot into any of them.....but if I was going to, I'd be looking a lot closer to home!
                                   
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