[Resurrected] what the f**k is wrong with our club

I recall the Glenn Stewart and Foran contract sagas being a huge dent in morale in 2014. We fell off a cliff toward the back end of the year and have never really recovered. I know 2021 is often referenced but I actually think 2019 is the best we've looked since the dynasty ended. We could actually grind out wins and defend quality opposition. We were smashed by injuries when it mattered most and with some better refereeing and a fit squad, we'd have beaten Souths in the SF.
You're correct 2019 was the best performance in 10 years, got dumped against Souths in the SF, and we were without Tom for the finals from memory
 
I recall the Glenn Stewart and Foran contract sagas being a huge dent in morale in 2014. We fell off a cliff toward the back end of the year and have never really recovered. I know 2021 is often referenced but I actually think 2019 is the best we've looked since the dynasty ended. We could actually grind out wins and defend quality opposition. We were smashed by injuries when it mattered most and with some better refereeing and a fit squad, we'd have beaten Souths in the SF.

Speaking of semi-recent times, 2014 in general will always be a big what if for me, just like the qualifying final in 2013.

That 2013 qualifying final - what if we took the penalty shots on offer from the Roosters deliberately slowing things down in their 20? Or what if we converted even just 1 of our 3 line breaks that night into a converted try (the Roosters made 0 that night)? What could we have done with the week off of a win there?

2014 - narrowly missed out on the minor premiership by going down to the Panthers by 1 point in the 2nd last round. Went into the final round still on top of the ladder before losing Ballin and Buhrer to injury in a last round loss. In 1 match at the pointy end, we went from having the team that could do it to relying on Jayden Hodges and a reserve forward to help take us all the way
 
I’ve never said once that I love the coach , but I’ve said many times he’s not at fault for the crap performance on the field.

The Cartel , of which you’re a member , have tunnel vision , EVERYTHING is the fault of the coach.

I don’t subscribe to this view.

Guess you think Cleary is a dud and should now be sacked due to the Panthers losing 5???
Did you rate Des Mark? It seems your sentiment is very different there. It's like a multiple personality disorder when it comes to appraising and offering grace towards Manly coaches.
 
I’ve never said once that I love the coach , but I’ve said many times he’s not at fault for the crap performance on the field.

The Cartel , of which you’re a member , have tunnel vision , EVERYTHING is the fault of the coach.

I don’t subscribe to this view.

Guess you think Cleary is a dud and should now be sacked due to the Panthers losing 5???
Whaaaat???? You are aware that Cleary has been to six GFs and won four of them right?
 
Penn is going nowhere unfortunately. He severely overvalues his stake in the club so no one is going to buy him out at his fantasy land price. Especially not in its current state, so we are stuck with him. Like him or not, we don’t exist without him though.

If only Hugh jackman would develop a sudden an incurable obsession for rugby league
 
Penn is going nowhere unfortunately. He severely overvalues his stake in the club so no one is going to buy him out at his fantasy land price. Especially not in its current state, so we are stuck with him. Like him or not, we don’t exist without him though.

If only Hugh jackman would develop a sudden an incurable obsession for rugby league
If penns company is publicly listed somewhere we can band together and buy a majority stake in the next trump tariff dip, force an extraordinary board meeting to sell off the sea eagles ownership, then in the next trump tariff peak we sell out and buy manly. Simples. We just need to understand what trump will do next.
 

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