The Tim Cleary Mega Thread

[bringbackbeaver]

I would suggest that Cleary may have a mandate to do something that the Penn's won't do for fear of backlash... diminish the role of Bozo and maybe get him out. Penn brought him (bozo) back with the best of intentions, but he (Penn) like us, can see that Bozo has made some very poor decisions.

I would bet the left that Penn has brought Cleary in to do exactly what he is doing. Winning the internal war with Bozo. I would be super surprized if Cleary did not discuss this with the owners prior to speaking with the media. Therefore, I don't see this as him signing his death warrant. I see this as the first official push and I expect Bozo to resign in the very near future if results dont dramatically turn around.

 

[Harvies elbow]

I would suggest that Cleary may have a mandate to do something that the Penn's won't do for fear of backlash... diminish the role of Bozo and maybe get him out. Penn brought him (bozo) back with the best of intentions, but he (Penn) like us, can see that Bozo has made some very poor decisions.

I would bet the left that Penn has brought Cleary in to do exactly what he is doing. Winning the internal war with Bozo. I would be super surprized if Cleary did not discuss this with the owners prior to speaking with the media. Therefore, I don't see this as him signing his death warrant. I see this as the first official push and I expect Bozo to resign in the very near future if results dont dramatically turn around.

Most people would get the message and resign if they'd made a complete cock up of things.
But let's not forget how long he hung around in the blues consultant role despite the state continually having seven shades of sh"t beaten out of it.
Some just can't accept that it's for the best to let go.

 

[nightster]

I strongly resemble that comment (with apologies to groucho)

I thought Curly said it .... and later Foghorn Leghorn ... but it could have been Groucho

 

[Ralphie]

My tip.........gone within a month!!

Saying all the right words , but will become the 8th CEO in what is a short time.

I agree Mark, first and foremost he is the CEO of a privately owned Company and unless he had the express permission of the owners to air the dirty laundry in the media he will be gone.

 

[yokahontas]

I would suggest that Cleary may have a mandate to do something that the Penn's won't do for fear of backlash... diminish the role of Bozo and maybe get him out. Penn brought him (bozo) back with the best of intentions, but he (Penn) like us, can see that Bozo has made some very poor decisions.

I would bet the left that Penn has brought Cleary in to do exactly what he is doing. Winning the internal war with Bozo. I would be super surprized if Cleary did not discuss this with the owners prior to speaking with the media. Therefore, I don't see this as him signing his death warrant. I see this as the first official push and I expect Bozo to resign in the very near future if results dont dramatically turn around.

I hope you're right.

I'm guessing that Cleary has definitely been told he has the Penns' backing, but whether that holds when it comes to the crunch remains to be seen...

 

[tookey]

The civil war at Manly will get worse before it gets better.

There can only be one winner - league immortal Bob Fulton or new CEO Tim Cleary - and each camp is prepared to dig in for a long fight.

What is clear is the club's owners - the Penn family - have given Cleary the green light to makes the changes he thinks are needed.

That's included the removal of Bozo's daughter from the club in a clear indication Cleary wants to lessen the Fulton family's influence.

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/leag...nly-warrin/1bt2xs0egeei31buyz3b3w30s5/slide/4

 

[Supreme Leader]

My tip.........gone within a month!!

Saying all the right words , but will become the 8th CEO in what is a short time.

Seriously though, we are **** on the field , off the field. To let it go into the media and have it not settled privately is a JOKE! If it's not sorted within a month, I know who will be gone - US, all the supporters

 

[yokahontas]

I'm not saying we should hear from him.
Just that we hired this guy to do what Bozo is doing?
Why?

I was just questioning where he fits into the picture given there seems to be a slight nudge for Bozo and co to move along....

Wonder if he was hired by the Penns or Cleary or Bozo...?

It may not be the same job as Bozo is doing - 'Head of NRL Football Operations' might mean he's the guy in charge of the day-to-day 'operations' like ensuring team sheets are submitted on time, cap rules are followed when you bring lower graders into the squad or whatever.

Unlike the ceremonial position of 'Grand High Poo-bah of Football' that Bozo occupies.

 

[Bearfax]

As usual those who are effective in some areas think they know everything in other areas I suspect. Hadley for example is just a good radio sports caller. He's nothing more. He was brought on as a shock jock because he's got a convincing style on radio. He sounds smart to some but he sits there at the mike with at least one support person with computer and google at hand when he needs to demonstrate he knows something about issues he discusses. And he's become full of his own importance and quite frankly has let power go to his head.

Fulton was a great footballer and fine coach (though he always had the best players he could secure). No question he loves Manly and when he came back to 'fix' things I was pleased because we were going no where and he understands Manly. But like Hadley, he is now over reaching himself and making some autocratic decisions, such as his nepotism with family members and perhaps sticking his nose into Barretts job. OK, as a mentor, but the final say should be Barretts. He has to live with those decisions. Fulton is smart but not that smart. Remember he was a boilermaker who made good because of his football skills, not his intellect.

Peters was a good footballer, and is a good journo. But he is only big at Manly on the coat tails of the Penns. Again he's allowed power to go to his head.

Cleary to me seems a clear thinking smart operator, who knows how to manage people and who is no doubt there to get Manly as a club back on track. I applaud the Penns for that and hope he continues. I dont want to see either Peters or Fulton thrown out of the club. But I do hope to see that they understand the limits of their involvement and accept it

 

[bringbackbeaver]

Most people would get the message and resign if they'd made a complete cock up of things.
But let's not forget how long he hung around in the blues consultant role despite the state continually having seven shades of sh"t beaten out of it.
Some just can't accept that it's for the best to let go.

agree but with all the media attention and the lack of on field results (which most attribute to our poor recruitment), I think the pressure will be too much and it will leave him with little option but to go. The only thing that could save him now is the team winning more than they lose... Can't see that happening.

 

[yokahontas]

I'm visualing the business card.
'Grand High PooBah of Football'

It's my lifelong aspiration to be able to put that on a business card one day. Not specifically football - I just want to be Grand High Poobah of something!

 

[BOZO]

A message to The Principle , the Immortal and all involved at our proud club
Can we please get on with our jobs and keep our fighting for premiership success on the football field !!!
Thank you .

 

[manlyfan76]

A message to The Principle , the Immortal and all involved at our proud club
Can we please get on with our jobs and keep our fighting for premiership success on the football field !!!
Thank you .
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How about as a starting point not calling fans with a view that differs from yours dummies, irrelevant.

 

[southsideeagle]

Bozo is there in a honorary capacity so not as if there is a contract or any thing.

He was/is my hero. I just loved watching him play. Started following Manly the year before he came up from west Wollongong. I get the feeling he is not helping get a cohesive atmosphere. He was part of the group that removed the soul hoping there could be a better replacement. Well that will take a long time, in my opinion. I still have trouble reconciling the shafting of so many great people.

 

[simon64]

He speaks the right words. If he doesn't mind taking on Fulton, hopefully Zorba is next in his sights.

He could be wearing coke bottle glasses and Zorba couldn't escape his sights.

 

[Peter C]

Bozo's has not been professional about this at all, the golden rule in any management is YOU DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO EMPLOY FAMILY.
It will always end badly

 

[Under the Sticks]

I strongly resemble that comment (with apologies to groucho)

How are they different to frogs eyes ? Gees he could run

 

[HappilyManly]

@RLW_Mole
And another Roosters CEO bites the dust...


We are not alone

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

My big hope is that they brought him in because they could see the monster they'd created by letting ZtH loose and giving The Immortal so much power. Not wanting to upset family and friends, they brought someone else in to do it. I know, I know ...

So much angst could have been avoided if the oleaginous Hellenic eunuch had remained unemployed by the owners/club/whatever, post Good Sortgate.

The William Conrad impressionist (sadly without the deep resonant voice) is a walking disaster area when it comes to his ongoing involvement with the Sea Eagles.

 

[Budgie]

So much angst could have been avoided if the oleaginous Hellenic eunuch had remained unemployed by the owners/club/whatever, post Good Sortgate.

The William Conrad impressionist (sadly without the deep resonant voice) is a walking disaster area when it comes to his ongoing involvement with the Sea Eagles.

Need to hit 'funny' and 'agree'. My life's a mess.