The No-Look News (Schuster Chronicles)

[The Who]

The Shoe was an incredibly talented junior but I feel it was he who let the club down, not the other way. The club overpaid him for potential instead of performance. They gave him more chances than he deserved. From reports he didn't meet training or dietary standards.
I'll be surprised if he ever lives up to his potential, and it will be bitter:sweet watching his progress with another club.

 

[Top End Eagle]

I hope you're right. And yes Wayne's good, but he can't 'unlock' everyone! Milford, Valynce Te Whare...

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Bro Milford was pretty good in 2015 and the fridge who dropped out of NZ schoolboy rugby because it was too much pressure was always gonna be flaky. You're meant to be serrated.

You're sharper than that friend.

 

[Top End Eagle]

Johns, Thurston, Wally, Sterlo, Fulton, Clyde, Menzies, Inglis, SBW, Barba...?

Nope.... Josh Schuster!!!

That'll do me....

Yep easily. Sorry you haven't crammed as much footy into your life as I have in mine feathered friend.

But I remember watching GI come through on the hill at Norths and destroy the seated squat machine in the gym at said club asva skinny 19 year old, it was obvious what he was going to be. Just couldn't ball play at the same age, that's what the really really talented kids do when they get bored of scoring tries at fourteen and realise it's a team sport and the selectors and scouts who aren't standing on the sidelines in their newly minted club polos are looking for.

That friend is what does me

 

[frank stokes]

Yep easily. Sorry you haven't crammed as much footy into your life as I have in mine feathered friend.

But I remember watching GI come through on the hill at Norths and destroy the seated squat machine in the gym at said club asva skinny 19 year old, it was obvious what he was going to be. Just couldn't ball play at the same age, that's what the really really talented kids do when they get bored of scoring tries at fourteen and realise it's a team sport and the selectors and scouts who aren't standing on the sidelines in their newly minted club polos are looking for.

That friend is what does me

Well hang onto those memories of Schu beating up on schoolkids with his amazing wealth of talent TEE... because he will never show it again...

Cannot match it with the big boys and is not in the same class as any of those I mentioned (or another 100 or so behind them)...

not the first kid to be found out at NRL level and won't be the last but, hey, at least he made a LOT more money of his "promise" than most ever do - that is probs the one thing where I would agree he had "the most talent"... although maybe his manager should get the cred there?

 

[Top End Eagle]

The Shoe was an incredibly talented junior but I feel it was he who let the club down, not the other way. The club overpaid him for potential instead of performance. They gave him more chances than he deserved. From reports he didn't meet training or dietary standards.
I'll be surprised if he ever lives up to his potential, and it will be bitter:sweet watching his progress with another club.

The situation was ridiculous. There weren't any cool heads on any side, and it's ended up serving neither club nor player. Not to mention the career of Kieran Foran, which should never have been impacted by a greedy manager, a cultural shift in gen (whatever is it a?) z motivation and desire to have it all/paid now earn it later approach.

I just hope Josh gets to play some good footy and is happy and it's a shame it won't be for Manly but he wasn't an 850 a year 5/8 with DCE as a half.

Cleary could harness him, I'm struggling to think of another seven but that's an NRL wide issue

 

[Top End Eagle]

The situation was ridiculous. There weren't any cool heads on any side, and it's ended up serving neither club nor player. Not to mention the career of Kieran Foran, which should never have been impacted by a greedy manager, a cultural shift in gen (whatever is it a?) z motivation and desire to have it all/paid now earn it later approach.

I just hope Josh gets to play some good footy and is happy and it's a shame it won't be for Manly but he wasn't an 850 a year 5/8 with DCE as a half.

Cleary could harness him, I'm struggling to think of another seven but that's an NRL wide issue but I think he's the games best ball playing edge, we will see what Wayne does, but I lament that missed potential.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Adam Schubertson/Josh Custer.

 

[Top End Eagle]

Well hang onto those memories of Schu beating up on schoolkids with his amazing wealth of talent TEE... because he will never show it again...

Cannot match it with the big boys and is not in the same class as any of those I mentioned (or another 100 or so behind them)...

not the first kid to be found out at NRL level and won't be the last but, hey, at least he made a LOT more money of his "promise" than most ever do - that is probs the one thing where I would agree he had "the most talent"... although maybe his manager should get the cred there?

Which was the point of my post mate before you jumped onboard. Most talented player I had seen come through.

That definitely wouldn't have been Steve Menzies playing in the wing

 

[Top End Eagle]

Adam Schubertson/Josh Custer.

He could get a start on the wing!

 

[frank stokes]

Which was the point of my post mate before you jumped onboard. Most talented player I had seen come through.

...had seen come through (juniors?) is a bit different to "Most talented player I have seen"...

I took it at face value...

However, if you are saying "the most talented junior"... well, that is a different argument - and one I am not prepared to have (as I did not see the majority of the greats play junior football)

 

[Highflier]

I don't want to re-baste the turkey but I blame his manger TBH ,he should never have got so expensive that as a work in progress (which he was) that we couldn't afford to keep working on .
The managers "management" of the Sea Eagles roster and cap saw us lose Foz maybe a season or 2 early and imo lose a player whose heart will always be here and will probably go to have some level of success .Further it will grind me if that level of success comes at my most despised club next to the scum ,and parra i.e Souffs the vermin.
Actually I think the day I see him wearing that revolting green and red rag I will

Anyway I wish him well I just wish that if it couldn't be with Manly that it could have been with Titans or Dolphins or Cowboys not a team as triggering as Souffs

 

[Dion Johnson]

Good. He's the most talented player I've ever seen and I played all my junior footy a year behind Owen Craigie and the stuff I've seen that bloke do I couldn't get anyone to believe so I've stopped trying to explain it.

Schusters problem with Seibold was he had a coach who played a couple of Super league games a lot of high quality Queensland cup and some stuff overseas. But he couldn't manage such a prodigious talent, and it's not for me to explain why but I've kicked an arrow on the dirt road in the direction to follow if you want.

Wayne will unlock this guy and I hope it comes back to haunt the Manly club and all you miserable curmudgeons who schitcanned Shuster from the first moment he showed up with a bit of flair and skill that went against your 'just give me a solid cooper crink style' approach to a nineteen year old FFS.

And if you dig a little deeper there's a bit of 'too much pepper not enough salt' behind your thinking, but who am I kidding nine of you will, you'll just tear into each other and whinge without answers when the team you support is down after fifteen minutes then pretend none of that happened if Manly happens to win on the same day.

I don’t think that Seibold contributed to Schuster not reaching his talent at Manly, there were many underlying issues there that were not football related,

The onus isn’t on an experienced coach like Bennett to get Schuster up and fit, it is with Josh solely if he wants to do the hard yards as he certainly has the talent and ability..

 

[double hoops]

Cragie was playing A grade when he was still pretty young. He would have been a bit like Galvin back in the day yeah. I imagine was too good playing kids. Like Galvin didn't look out of place in the big show as a young bloke.

 

[Dion Johnson]

Cragie was playing A grade when he was still pretty young. He would have been a bit like Galvin back in the day yeah. I imagine was too good playing kids. Like Galvin didn't look out of place in the big show as a young bloke.

Craigie was 16 years old when he made his first grade debut, what a footballer he was at junior level, he had speed at that young age and a step that made most defenders look stupid.

Craigie would have been the best junior I seen, better than Freddie Fitler, his body got to big as he aged, thought he was going to be a Cliffy type player with speed when I first watched him.

 

[Scorpio]

Good. He's the most talented player I've ever seen and I played all my junior footy a year behind Owen Craigie and the stuff I've seen that bloke do I couldn't get anyone to believe so I've stopped trying to explain it.

Schusters problem with Seibold was he had a coach who played a couple of Super league games a lot of high quality Queensland cup and some stuff overseas. But he couldn't manage such a prodigious talent, and it's not for me to explain why but I've kicked an arrow on the dirt road in the direction to follow if you want.

Wayne will unlock this guy and I hope it comes back to haunt the Manly club and all you miserable curmudgeons who schitcanned Shuster from the first moment he showed up with a bit of flair and skill that went against your 'just give me a solid cooper crink style' approach to a nineteen year old FFS.

And if you dig a little deeper there's a bit of 'too much pepper not enough salt' behind your thinking, but who am I kidding nine of you will, you'll just tear into each other and whinge without answers when the team you support is down after fifteen minutes then pretend none of that happened if Manly happens to win on the same day.

The only thing of any substance in that referenced 'report' is that there was a meeting between Josh's manager and the Rabbitohs... which I imagine happens all the time for player managers seeking career opportunities for their clients, but usually without news articles being written about it...

Wayne Bennett is not a miracle worker, he states as much in his own memoir and provides anecdotes from his early coaching career about players who weren't achieving their potential for reasons of their own doing.

I don't believe that Manly and both Des/Seibold didn't give Josh every opportunity to succeed within reason, but it still didn't work out. He'll need to work hard to make it back to NRL but good luck to him.

 

[frank stokes]

I don't want to re-baste the turkey but I blame his manger TBH ,he should never have got so expensive that as a work in progress (which he was) that we couldn't afford to keep working on .
The managers "management" of the Sea Eagles roster and cap saw us lose Foz maybe a season or 2 early and imo lose a player whose heart will always be here and will probably go to have some level of success .Further it will grind me if that level of success comes at my most despised club next to the scum ,and parra i.e Souffs the vermin.
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Anyway I wish him well I just wish that if it couldn't be with Manly that it could have been with Titans or Dolphins or Cowboys not a team as triggering as Souffs View attachment 27861

Cannot possibly be as traumatic as seeing Glen Stewart running around in a Souffs jersey... still hurts...

 

[frank stokes]

Cragie was playing A grade when he was still pretty young. He would have been a bit like Galvin back in the day yeah. I imagine was too good playing kids. Like Galvin didn't look out of place in the big show as a young bloke.

Fittler came into grade as a 17yo and tore adults to pieces....

...and he never stopped doing it...

 

[ManlyTragic]

We should change this thread title from “ no look schuster” to “look! No schuster”

Just sayin’

 

[Rocky]

I don't get the Schuster is the most talented player narrative. One of the more talented ball players perhaps.

But Rugby League is about playing both ends of the field (i.e defence)...and he has shown no desire to do the dirty work that makes one a complete footballer.

Of course Bennett may be able to unlock him. But it will be his last chance.

 

[sheridanstand78]

It all comes down to a players work ethic, you can be the most talented player on the planet with lots of potential and If you do not do the hard yards you will end up in the trash.

Josh I hope sorts out whatever demons are stopping him from doing that!