I honestly think Tom / Jake are going to be the next Nathan Hindmarsh's. Players to have played for Australia and NSW but never to have won a GF. Their best chances are leaving us.If we win a GF with shoey in the team on mad Monday we fill brookie and get the world record for most shoeys at once.
to be fair our chances of winning one would be significantly higher if Tom actually played.I honestly think Tom / Jake are going to be the next Nathan Hindmarsh's. Players to have played for Australia and NSW but never to have won a GF. Their best chances are leaving us.
And honestly, I wouldn't be too fussed.
More likely to never even play in one. This club is light years from competing for top 4. The next major injury to Turbo and it needs to be bye bye Tom.I honestly think Tom / Jake are going to be the next Nathan Hindmarsh's. Players to have played for Australia and NSW but never to have won a GF. Their best chances are leaving us.
And honestly, I wouldn't be too fussed.
More likely to never even play in one. This club is light years from competing for top 4. The next major injury to Turbo and it needs to be bye bye Tom.
Jake , great competitor and club man, but geez he throws up nothing in attack. Gives away too many penalties.
Schuster, well he's now just an anchor around our necks.
And what happened to all that extra fitness work he was doing before the pre-season even started. So much anticipation and expectation going into this year only to sadly come up short again on what a first grader should look like.More likely to never even play in one. This club is light years from competing for top 4. The next major injury to Turbo and it needs to be bye bye Tom.
Jake , great competitor and club man, but geez he throws up nothing in attack. Gives away too many penalties.
Schuster, well he's now just an anchor around our necks.
You have to be very fit to play in the top grade. He defo needs to work hard.And what happened to all that extra fitness work he was doing before the pre-season even started. So much anticipation and expectation going into this year only to sadly come up short again on what a first grader should look like.
Tyson Gamble was reported to be on $220k for the season, almost a quarter of the Shus salary. Let that sink in.Then you watch Tyson Gamble who is on probably 50% of Schu's salary and is all effort. That's how you balance a cap. Add Ponga prioritising the Knights > SOO and they are getting a lot of things right culture wise. Fair play to the Knights and if Hastings isn't out for the season then will go ok in the finals.
On the other side of the field in that game, Matt Burton was giving off serious Schu vibes. Couple of lazy, disinterested missed tackles and offering sweet FA in attack. Burton was a standout at the Panthers and has played Origin, but he is struggling big time in a struggling team.Then you watch Tyson Gamble who is on probably 50% of Schu's salary and is all effort.
Agreed. But we also had the 'hard nut' Flannagan as an assistant coach. He's supposed to be a strict disciplinarian.This is a real dilemma for Siebold and the rest of the coaching staff. Why can't they get Schuster fit? If he's not prepared to put the work in at training and during games then he should be going back to reserve grade and earning a recall into the top grade regardless of his salary. Their is an absence of steel in our squad and that's not going to change with a coach that is proud of what they have produced this year.
In the game the other night his jersey got pulled up as he was rising from a tackle to play the ball & I didn’t notice any “belly” on him so I think you’re right - he’s a naturally bulky person & I don’t think he will ever be a cut, muscle bound player.Agreed. But we also had the 'hard nut' Flannagan as an assistant coach. He's supposed to be a strict disciplinarian.
I'm not sure it is totally a fitness issue. The Shoe has a naturally bulky build, and always looked big in the juniors which was one of his advantages then. I think most of the problem is that he is overthinking things. People expect him to do something miraculous every time he touches the ball.
First grade has been a step too far, currently, and he is afraid of the negative consequences if he runs the ball.
If it's in his head then that can be fixed. If it's because he's not good enough for the NRL then we have a a very expensive problem.
Or Artie Beetson. Honestly he's not a five eighth but a ball playing forward may be his niche.Not everyone has the genetics to be lean & musclebound - look at the likes of Latrell, Wade Graham, Suli, Te Whare, Timoko, etc.
I agree with you about Burton but funny, watching that Dogs game yesterday I was thinking exactly the same about Kikau. Neither of them has stoodout since leaving the Panthers.On the other side of the field in that game, Matt Burton was giving off serious Schu vibes. Couple of lazy, disinterested missed tackles and offering sweet FA in attack. Burton was a standout at the Panthers and has played Origin, but he is struggling big time in a struggling team.
I think if (when?) Manly loses to Warriors we'll see some new faces given a taste of NRL. Another loss will put paid to our gossamer-thin finals hopes.I agree with you about Burton but funny, watching that Dogs game yesterday I was thinking exactly the same about Kikau. Neither of them has stoodout since leaving the Panthers.
As for Schu, I'm totally over him. Imo he's one of the main reasons our season hasn't panned out as it should have. He's been fortunate to be given ample opportunity at 5/8 to fulfill his dream (not everyone gets to fulfill theirs) but it still hasn't happened.
It's time to move on and I agree with others here that for the last few games he should be moved back to the forwards and Jake Arthur be given a go at 5/8.
Problem is he’s slow as ****. Every time he makes a break of some sort he’s getting mowed down.In the game the other night his jersey got pulled up as he was rising from a tackle to play the ball & I didn’t notice any “belly” on him so I think you’re right - he’s a naturally bulky person & I don’t think he will ever be a cut, muscle bound player.
Not everyone has the genetics to be lean & musclebound - look at the likes of Latrell, Wade Graham, Suli, Te Whare, Timoko, etc.
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