The Kieran Forum

[BOZO]

Really? Name one. Have any of the current crew, aside from DCE played with Foran. Maybe Marty for NZ? I can't think of any senior players that would want Foran back.

Not aimed at you @The Wheel

Think outside the square feathered friend ....
Foran is a proven and respected player for those that have played with him or against him
Our club has not had a 5/8 of Forans ability since Foran left and I can understand that all our senior players would want a descent 5/8 in our team .

 

[KNUCKLES]

Really? Name one. Have any of the current crew, aside from DCE played with Foran. Maybe Marty for NZ? I can't think of any senior players that would want Foran back.

Not aimed at you @The Wheel

Sironen said he did in an interview. Schuey can learn some things from him etc.. the boys know he still one of the most respected guys in the comp and would love him here etc etc

 

[Bearfax]

I think this year has shown more than ever we need depth. Even if Foran isn't signed we will definitely be on the lookout for more playmakers. No way we can rely on Cust and Schuster... What if Chez gets injured ? What if Chez and Schuster both went down?

Some players are impossible to effectively back up unless you have Politis's unlimited money bag. We've seen that with Turbo and Fainu. Bringing in any experienced player of middling talent, and we've had a lot of those recently, is fine for emergencies, but the long term loss of a star is always going to impact heavily on the team. Imagine the Strm without Cam Smith.

Gone are the days, such as at Manly during the early 80s when you could afford almost two first grade sides. Choosing someone, who is sufficiently talented, experienced, and can be relied upon to remain fairly healthy, is an increasingly difficult task in the modern game. That's why so much more emphasis is placed on the young player, who could be top tier in a few years, but you can get away with paying smaller wages for that period.

Unless you can secure someone exceptional, healthy and experienced on small money, it seems a better bet to go to the younger ranks, pick up a few on the rise, pay them moderate money and have a backup who is more likely to benefit the side than the old broken down soldier who fought too many past battles. Very impersonal I know, but the game is a business now, not a place for long ago memories and charity.

 

[KNUCKLES]

Foran has torn his pec would he even be fit come pre season / round 1?

 

[The Wheel]

Really? Name one. Have any of the current crew, aside from DCE played with Foran. Maybe Marty for NZ? I can't think of any senior players that would want Foran back.

Not aimed at you @The Wheel

That’s alright I didn’t write it, Just a copy and paste from an article in the Australian

 

[ManlyTragic]

Foran and the Eagles

The cards appear to be falling for Kieran Foran as he eyes off a potential return to Manly. The Sea Eagles will clear much-needed salary cap space when Addin Fonua-Blake leaves the club at the end of the season, but a more promising move for Foran may be Manly’s decision to part ways with hooker Danny Levi.

It is understood Manly coach Des Hasler is pondering a shift for Cade Cust to hooker next season, which would create a vacancy in the Sea Eagles squad in the halves.

Foran looms as an attractive option given he would be available at a reasonable rate and has an affinity with the club. Some of the club’s senior players are known to want Foran back at the club as well. They still appreciate what he can do. Stay tuned

Did you just make that up? Or is there a source?

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

As I’ve said many times , and sadly so , Foran is an accident waiting to happen.

Look back over the last 5 years , what has he played , 30% of games.

So we pay him say $350k for the year , and he plays what.....6 games maybe.

It’s a massive no from me and I’ll be bitterly disappointed if Des signs him stopping the development of our promising juniors.

 

[stoodamire]

Foran has torn his pec would he even be fit come pre season / round 1?

Turbo did his pec in the final rounds last year and was fine for round 1 this year.

 

[The Wheel]

Did you just make that up? Or is there a source?

Brent Read article in The Australians

 

[KNUCKLES]

As I’ve said many times , and sadly so , Foran is an accident waiting to happen.

Look back over the last 5 years , what has he played , 30% of games.

So we pay him say $350k for the year , and he plays what.....6 games maybe.

It’s a massive no from me and I’ll be bitterly disappointed if Des signs him stopping the development of our promising juniors.

True.. but i guess that's the argument when it comes to the development of our juniors. Shuster and co probably would learn alot from him being around

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Did you just make that up? Or is there a source?

Brent Read article in The Australians

Brent Read just made it up

 

[KNUCKLES]

Turbo did his pec in the final rounds last year and was fine for round 1 this year.

Are we not having a shorter off season due to covid though?

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Are we not having a shorter off season due to covid though?

Yes.

Season is longer this year but only really affects in a big way the top 8

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Yes.
Season is longer this year but only really affects in a big way the top 8

Des is all over this, that's why he didn't want us to play finals this year

 

[Highflier]

Foz at the right price can give us the value and experience in the 5/8 position we need
Cust at hooker sounds like a smart move by Des
For those that panic at the risk Foran factor I say life it self is a risk
A fully fit player can have a career ending injury in round one
Once he passes a doctors medical assessment I dont see a problem with the Foran risk factor
Foran at 5/8 has the experience and skill to run our team around with DCE better than all those 5/8s we have had in the past on one leg and one arm tied around his back .

Given his past injuries let’s hope that one leg and one arm is up to scratch !

 

[BOZO]

Given his past injuries let’s hope that one leg and one arm is up to scratch !

We all live in hope and Foz is no different . He is in a different class to all those other 5/8s that tried to fill his spot when he left our club .

 

[Wombat64]

Something cheap is only value if it works. Cheap Foran on the sidelines all year because of injury is just a waste of money and valuable cap space

 

[Dee Why Eagle]

And unlike the feral rabbits, we wouldn't be allowed to medically retire him

 

[Nordburg]

Personally I'm against signing Foran

That said if we were to pick him up Id get behind the team with him in it and green frame it by saying.

• He'd be cheap
• He is still very good when he plays
• Even if he plays 50% of games it is a good way to ease Schuster in.
• Will allow Walker to go back to centre

Id probably have Schuster in the 15/Jetski role. Play some edge backrow but can cover 5/8 and centre

Thats if we sign Foran....which I'm still against

Hope nope, started well. Now they just blow them too inconsistent. Haven't liked it. Has not improved the game, just made it more confusing

im still on the fence with the 6 again.As you said,it’s too inconsistent and most of the time you have no idea why they ruled them.But on the other hand,the quick decision and continuity of play,limits the amount of time the commentary has to whinge about the ruling.Although it didn’t stop CH9 last night

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Something cheap is only value if it works. Cheap Foran on the sidelines all year because of injury is just a waste of money and valuable cap space

Well we need someone on the sidelines all year because of injury. He'd be perfect in that role.