The Daly Cherrygraph

[The better Robbo]

DCE parents supposedly seen at the Gold Coast getting wined and dined last week. Could end up being nothing, but Titans look like they are at least interested.

 

[mickqld]

DCE parents supposedly seen at the Gold Coast getting wined and dined last week. Could end up being nothing, but Titans look like they are at least interested.

Can fuking well go there now. Fit right in with his lying mates Foran and Des.

 

[Brookie1973]

Seriously , I said this the other day , if you put our entire forward pack on the market there’d be great interest in only two players.

Therein lies the problem.

They are as soft as custard

Poor Seibs, everything is against him. Next we will be asking him to you know, actually coach.

 

[PONTIAN SEA EAGLE]

You just know we’re going to get nothing out of dce from here on when he starts to play that hooker role.Leave that to our hookers & start organising the play.

 

[HK_Eagle]

You just know we’re going to get nothing out of dce from here on when he starts to play that hooker role.Leave that to our hookers & start organising the play.

DCE... organise play?

 

[wombatgc]

. Its the action that's important, something a large proportion of Americans have never worked out, voting in their messiah who promises everything and delivers chaos.

What’s Obama got to do with it?

 

[Bearfax]

You have nothing to apologise for, it's just a bit of banter. I am not the least bit bothered by anything you have or haven't said, just enjoying the forum. I apologise if anything I've said amongst the banter is seen as a deliberate attempt to twist your words or cause offence. I love what you bring to the forum!

Actually LC I asked for the apology as a bit of humour. Don't misunderstand me. These days little fazes. When I was young ...yes I was a emotional lad. Insecure, lacking in confidence. I guess I learned. These days I do things on this site primarily to challenge perceptions. Not saying I'm right, just saying, as I did when I was younger, that most of us react to issues emotionally and personally and can easily miss the point. Its in our nature.

Though my career has been primarily about behaviour and motivation, I'm certainly no expert regarding personalities and make mistakes. Like you I'm a retired University educated person who is still learning. I'm not a muso though, which you seem to be...guitar, performing in a group or solo at one stage? Just a guess. Bit of an old romantic as well I'd assess. Could be wrong but certain elements seem to point that way.

The hardest thing I've found in the people oriented roles I've had is to separate one's personal feelings as much as one can from an issue and step back and try as best you can to see through the eyes of the other person, dispassionately. Yes, you've heard that before but this is intrinsic to my career. Easier with those you know. Its like a jigsaw puzzle, and each new piece adds to what you begin to understand about the other person. Too few pieces on the board and you really aren't seeing the picture at all. Hardest thing to do, is not to project, to assume your own values and behaviours should apply to others. Not easy to do especially if its an emotionally charged issue for you. But that is something of what I had to train myself to do. Otherwise you can't begin to understand the point of view of a street urchin, a child sex offender, a murderer. Its not to excuse, its merely to try to understand their perspective, no matter how bizarre it seems to you.

So when I speak of DCE, I'm trying to see what motivates him. Its not something to judge, because when you judge you're raising yourself on a podium above others assuming your rightness. Our values may be right to us, but that doesn't make them right. I may at times seem to be doing that, but in fact I'm challenging, seeking for others to effectively justify a position. This is especially the case when the jigsaw puzzle has large chunks still to be filled. The roles I had, taught me as best I could to separate yourself emotionally. Don't take things personally. Hard to do for a formerly sensitive lad, but I guess that's why I entered a succession of roles of that type examining emotion, motivation and behaviour. Toughens one up somewhat.

I hope this assists you to understand my perspective. And no, nothing on this site affects me. It is just banter, talking about a favoured football team, and continuing to note how we all think and especially emotionally react. A side issue, a diversion, while I try to finish my second book.

 

[Bearfax]

What’s Obama got to do with it?

Most amusing Wombat. Remind me to put a tariff on your entries.

 

[LeonardCohen]

when you judge you're raising yourself on a podium above others assuming your rightness. Our values may be right to us, but that doesn't make them right.

Agree with you on this one. I'm not perfect with it and often when giving an opinion, I am judging. However, I agree, as a society we are very quick to position ourselves as superior to someone else.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

However, I agree, as a society we are very quick to position ourselves as superior to someone else.

or as inferior, as the case may be. Either way we all make judgments all the time, big and little, though some people think they don't (or think we shouldn't)!

 

[The better Robbo]

You just know we’re going to get nothing out of dce from here on when he starts to play that hooker role.Leave that to our hookers & start organising the play.

I've said for 10 years I actually reckon hooker is his best position. A bit like Ben Hunt. They want to be halves but are better suited to #9.

 

[Thewestisbest]

I've said for 10 years I actually reckon hooker is his best position. A bit like Ben Hunt. They want to be halves but are better suited to #9.

DCE would have been so dangerous as a hooker. His only standout moments of positivity yesterday came when he was at the play the ball.

 

[LeonardCohen]

or as inferior, as the case may be. Either way we all make judgments all the time, big and little, though some people think they don't (or think we shouldn't)!

Absolutely, it's part of being human. Personally, I know the ol' ego can creep in the backdoor on occasions and I have to remind myself to be a little more balanced. I enjoy sharing opinions and inevitably they'll contain judgements, and that's OK. For me though, it's more about being prepared to concede that someone else might be right about something; I guess that's the ego I am referring to.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Absolutely, it's part of being human. Personally, I know the ol' ego can creep in the backdoor on occasions and I have to remind myself to be a little more balanced. I enjoy sharing opinions and inevitably they'll contain judgements, and that's OK. For me though, it's more about being prepared to concede that someone else might be right about something; I guess that's the ego I am referring to.

Yeah. I love the forum but there's always one two who refuse to ever concede a point (not naming names, lol) and that makes discussion impossible really. Which wouldn't even matter if the subject matter was always trivial but of course occasionally it isn't.

 

[mave]

I've said for 10 years I actually reckon hooker is his best position. A bit like Ben Hunt. They want to be halves but are better suited to #9.

Said it a thousand times.

Would have been the best hooker in the game.

But that would also had required a bigger commitment to tackling, and a smaller pay packet, so was never going to happen.

 

[Bearfax]

Yeah. I love the forum but there's always one two who refuse to ever concede a point (not naming names, lol) and that makes discussion impossible really. Which wouldn't even matter if the subject matter was always trivial but of course occasionally it isn't.

If that comment is directed a me, all I can say is you that maybe you aren't reading what I say. In one of my discussions with LC just very recently I apologised. In a later one I indicated I could be wrong. I stated clearly that I challenge what I see as unsubstantiated claims. All I'm trying to do is have those on this forum back up those claims. Often comments are made as an emotional reaction.

Two points there. Firstly I ran anger management groups in the past. First rule in dealing with such issues is NEVER react on an emotion. Step back and consider it logically and question what it is that you are upset about and also look at it logically, supported by evidence. Second a lesson I learned in those groups from one of the participants was 'you don't live my life so you don't know what it is I am going through.' I commended that fellow and agreed with him. We dont know what motivates others until we know a lot about them, and even then we have to remember they are not you and their experiences in life led them on a different path and to different conclusions. Not right or wrong just different..

 

[Mal Cochrane]

Hookers are generally strong front on defenders, I'm not sure that part of the role is dce's go at all?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

If that comment is directed a me, all I can say is you that maybe you aren't reading what I say. In one of my discussions with LC just very recently I apologised. In a later one I indicated I could be wrong.

It's ok you weren't uppermost in my mind when I wrote that. It was more a comment about the types of exchanges here between posters, and ones I like and the ones I find annoyingly unfulfilling.

 

[mickqld]

Hookers are generally strong front on defenders, I'm not sure that part of the role is dce's go at all?

DCE and solid defending as a hooker. About as plausible an idea as Manly having quality, sensible management.

 

[Seagles68]

Yeah. I love the forum but there's always one two who refuse to ever concede a point (not naming names, lol) and that makes discussion impossible really. Which wouldn't even matter if the subject matter was always trivial but of course occasionally it isn't.

I don't agree!