The Daly Cherrygraph

[BOZO]

You don’t know our DCE, he’s a master at playing the games to get maximum values.

I think it’s Roosters , but the only other one who could afford his lifestyle , you guessed it , your team

We Know Mestrov
He was never a Master player
Nor a Master CEO
DCE too $mart for him

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

I am extremely surprised to see the levels of resentment towards DCE, Bozo did the same thing after winninga premiership yet he is still a Manly legend how is this any different?

DCE has always been a polarising figure, TJ, even among Manly fans.

I'm not sure I can articulate it completely, but even though I respect him and acknowledge the player he's become during his time here, and don't begrudge him leaving for more money (although I do wish he'd drop the bulls**t and just be upfront about that), I've never really liked him in the way I've liked - hell, loved! - other Manly players.

I will love Steve Matai till the day I die. Same with Choc Watmough, even though he's not the sharpest tool in the shed and left the club on appalling terms. I love Beaver, and will shout as much from any rooftop (and have even ended up on several watch-lists for doing so).

And I loved Kieran Foran from the moment he stepped onto the field at Brookvale and scored a try with his first touch of the football. Foran had his ups and downs over the years, and I know a lot of people have never forgiven him for the way he left us the first time, but it never bothered me because I loved the bloke and always wished him well.

In today's squad, I love Jake and Tommy (even though his injuries frustrate the hell out of me), Big Haumole (though I would have been happy to see the back of him during Jerseygate), Lehi Hoppa, and Gordy Chan Kum Tong. Yeah, that little juggle he does when he picks up the ball is annoying as hell, and ultimately he might not be a very good player, but there's something about the little bloke's smile and energy that makes me happy.

But Cherry? He's just never had that effect on me. Maybe it's because it feels like he's not genuine, or maybe it's the weird word salad he comes out with when he's trying to sound polished and smart. Whatever it is, it's something. It's almost like he wants to be kept at a distance, or that he needs to be seen as flawless instead of flawed.

And that's not saying that he hasn't been a good "ambassador" for the club and the game as a whole, or that he's not a decent bloke, or a great husband and father. He may well be all those things. I hope he is. But I've never really cared for him, or felt invested in him as a person instead of as a player.

Those connections are hard to explain - they just are, or in this case, aren't. And even though I fully accept that it reflects poorly on me rather than on Cherry, maybe other fans feel (or don't feel) the same way.

 

[TJ55]

Valuable 2 cents but way too logical… back to the kennel with you 🤣

I like to take intermittent breaks and then pop back up when you think the bad smell has gone, plus I'm a big fan of @BOZO posts they always bring a smile

 

[frank stokes]

Like Gus Gould, who is employed by both Channel Nine and the Bulldogs, wouldn't have an agenda here…

Anasta said he was told this by multiple clubs… why is it even a rumour? I suspect there is more than a little truth in it and I reckon they were gauging the market for their ageing playmaker…

Manly were obviously umming and aahing and trying to screw the contract down as far as they could… I understand why they would do this - Chez is 36 and it gives them more cash to retain the future squad… it is good management…

Problem is that they then want to pretend that they have done “everything they can” to retain Chez which, I suspect, translates as “everything we thought we could get away with”… the contract offer at the 11th hour was just embarrassing…

 

[BOZO]

I like to take intermittent breaks and then pop back up when you think the bad smell has gone, plus I'm a big fan of @BOZO posts they always bring a smile

Keep popping back and keep biting back when you post like the tough bulldog that you are .
We like tough competition here on this forum 🙂

 

[Budgie]

Yeah I would say any club that “agreed” to terms with Chez in 2024 is very f*cking nervous about now…

the market is super hot right now, he is the biggest sl*t in the whorehouse and he just declared that the biggest d*ck gets to f*ck him for 2 years…

Indian had a deft touch with his analogy. Yours is just gross

 

[frank stokes]

Indian had a deft touch with his analogy. Yours is just gross

Sorry about that, my head can be f*cked up sometimes…

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Anasta said he was told this by multiple clubs… why is it even a rumour? I suspect there is more than a little truth in it and I reckon they were gauging the market for their ageing playmaker…

Manly were obviously umming and aahing and trying to screw the contract down as far as they could… I understand why they would do this - Chez is 36 and it gives them more cash to retain the future squad… it is good management…

Problem is that they then want to pretend that they have done “everything they can” to retain Chez which, I suspect, translates as “everything we thought we could get away with”… the contract offer at the 11th hour was just embarrassing…

I get that, frank, and it wouldn't surprise me if the club have handled this with the same level of… professionalism that has dogged us for years. I mean, as soon as Scott Penn becomes involved, you know you're doomed.

But ultimately, this is all about Cherry and what he wants. It is not about the club or its management.

If Cherry wanted to stay, he'd stay. If being a one-club player was more valuable to him than a truckload of money, he'd stay. If being the club captain was valuable to him, or if the Manly club and his teammates were valuable to him, he'd stay.

And it's fair enough that he doesn't want to stay. It's his choice, and he doesn't need to justify it to anybody. He's been here for 400 years already - it may well be that he simply wants a change. But he just does not want to stay, and there's nothing the club can do about it. And even if they had handled things differently, and met his every demand and desire, the end result would have probably been the same.

 

[Budgie]

DCE has always been a polarising figure, TJ, even among Manly fans.

I'm not sure I can articulate it completely, but even though I respect him and acknowledge the player he's become during his time here, and don't begrudge him leaving for more money (although I do wish he'd drop the bulls**t and just be upfront about that), I've never really liked him in the way I've liked - hell, loved! - other Manly players.

I will love Steve Matai till the day I die. Same with Choc Watmough, even though he's not the sharpest tool in the shed and left the club on appalling terms. I love Beaver, and will shout as much from any rooftop (and have even ended up on several watch-lists for doing so).

And I loved Kieran Foran from the moment he stepped onto the field at Brookvale and scored a try with his first touch of the football. Foran had his ups and downs over the years, and I know a lot of people have never forgiven him for the way he left us the first time, but it never bothered me because I loved the bloke and always wished him well.

In today's squad, I love Jake and Tommy (even though his injuries frustrate the hell out of me), Big Haumole (though I would have been happy to see the back of him during Jerseygate), Lehi Hoppa, and Gordy Chan Kum Tong. Yeah, that little juggle he does when he picks up the ball is annoying as hell, and ultimately he might not be a very good player, but there's something about the little bloke's smile and energy that makes me happy.

But Cherry? He's just never had that effect on me. Maybe it's because it feels like he's not genuine, or maybe it's the weird word salad he comes out with when he's trying to sound polished and smart. Whatever it is, it's something. It's almost like he wants to be kept at a distance, or that he needs to be seen as flawless instead of flawed.

And that's not saying that he hasn't been a good "ambassador" for the club and the game as a whole, or that he's not a decent bloke, or a great husband and father. He may well be all those things. I hope he is. But I've never really cared for him, or felt invested in him as a person instead of as a player.

Those connections are hard to explain - they just are, or in this case, aren't. And even though I fully accept that it reflects poorly on me rather than on Cherry, maybe other fans feel (or don't feel) the same way.

I feel the exact same way. Except I'd have to add Tooves

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

I feel the exact same way. Except I'd have to add Tooves

Oh, s**t! I forgot Tooves! And Wombat Eadie. And Kosef, and Daniel Gartner, and Brett and Glenn Stewart! And plenty of others! But the point remains🙂

 

[frank stokes]

I get that, frank, and it wouldn't surprise me if the club have handled this with the same level of… professionalism that has dogged us for years. I mean, as soon as Scott Penn becomes involved, you know you're doomed.

But ultimately, this is all about Cherry and what he wants. It is not about the club or its management.

If Cherry wanted to stay, he'd stay. If being a one-club player was more valuable to him than a truckload of money, he'd stay. If being the club captain was valuable to him, or if the Manly club and his teammates were valuable to him, he'd stay.

And it's fair enough that he doesn't want to stay. It's his choice, and he doesn't need to justify it to anybody. He's been here for 400 years already - it may well be that he simply wants a change. But he simply does not want to stay, and there's nothing the club can do about it. And even if they had handled things differently, and met his every demand and desire, the end result would have probably been the same.

Chez does not come out smelling great (because he is not being honest) but the club is trying to play both sides of the fence imo… hardball behind closed doors and adoring fans of Chez in public…

All parties are setting off BS meters across the country… Chez no doubt wants to maximise his value - some will say he owes the club and should take a cut (fair viewpoint) but personally I don’t begrudge the players making as much cash as they can…

However you look at it though, this contract was in the club’s court and they had all the tools (salary cap exemptions, familiarity, personal ties) to get the contract done before any other club got a chance to… but for whatever reason they did not…

They would have us believe that it was all as “respect shown to Chez”… BS…

Chez would have us believe that there is no hard feelings and this is to allow the club to plan for the future… BS (although I suspect the second part was a reference to the contract negotiations)…

 

[47MVEagle]

If it’s true the club were shopping him to others last year, then it confirms they weren’t going to re-sign him.

The question is, was it with DCE’s knowledge or behind his back?

If the latter, then I can understand resentment towards them from DCE.

If it was the former, then there is no reason for DCE to blindside the club like he has. Open, 2 way communication between both parties should have resulted in no bad blood between them.

 

[LeonardCohen]

Where there is no united Club front
There must be a lack of alliance
and there must be an issue
Both Mestrov and DCE fronted the media on their own

Speaks volumes about this feeble lie that there is no animosity

 

[Raven Mad Manly Fan]

There is no doubt , as another poster alluded to , that he’s seen Brown get a 13 million dollar contract and has said “ I deserve that too”.

And which club(s) will give him that at age 36

Roosters or Bulldogs , because they are backed by billionaires.

All this media bull** , is just that bull**.

He’s already got a 10-13 million dollar contract for playing , coaching , media signed sealed and delivered.

The little prick has zero scruples , **** him, let’s move on

Aren't we also backed (owned) by a billionaire????
Why can't we also cherry-pick (pun intended) our choice of any elite players that come on the market whenever we like just as the roosters and bulldogs can?

 

[Budgie]

Aren't we also backed (owned) by a billionaire????
Why can't we also cherry-pick (pun intended) our choice of any elite players that come on the market whenever we like just as the roosters and bulldogs can?

Because he's a tight arse?

 

[Seagles68]

Anasta said he was told this by multiple clubs… why is it even a rumour? I suspect there is more than a little truth in it and I reckon they were gauging the market for their ageing playmaker…

Manly were obviously umming and aahing and trying to screw the contract down as far as they could… I understand why they would do this - Chez is 36 and it gives them more cash to retain the future squad… it is good management…

Problem is that they then want to pretend that they have done “everything they can” to retain Chez which, I suspect, translates as “everything we thought we could get away with”… the contract offer at the 11th hour was just embarrassing…

I'm in the - everyone has stuffed up here- camp but I just can't get past the fact that DCE went on the TV with such a spotlight and "fanfare" to tell those who actually give a toss, that he did not want to play for Manly ever again, so there, up yours. And I know that's not what he said but as a lifelong Manly supporter, what he did say and how he did say it, this is how it translated into my little brain.

And I'm just about over this whole "disrespected" drivel that Johns an others are going on with. How old is the bloke. It sounds like he's about as old as I do writing this rant. I mean seriously, what is worst the Club might have done? Is it that the Club didn't offer him a contract until they saw what someone else was going to offer?? Ok, maybe not smart but was that enough to then go and so publicly announce an "up yours" to those whom he felt wronged him?? Coz if that was the aim, all it did (from my perspective) is also give an up yours to those people that have supported him all these years. And then to engage in a chuckle fest with Gould and co afterwards ............ eesh!

I really don't care anymore whose fault it is, it's done and dusted. But geeez Chez, you could have done this so much better.

So endeth the rant. Now back to being an adult (but I feel better )

 

[Budgie]

‘Self-destruct button’: Bennett blasts NRL over DCE soap opera... calls for big change

‘Self-destruct button’: Bennett blasts NRL over DCE soap opera... calls for big change

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Andrew..]

Browns contract was months after this sh*t blew up by the sound of it… the club were holding out to see how low they could go - no contract offered until Monday and even then they got as ‘high’ as $750K…

The club decided to play a risky game by letting Chez go to market thinking they could potentially get a lower price and, at worst, they could try to match any offer… Chez (possibly) got offended and has decided to go “up yours” to the club…

Everyone is lying at least a little bit and probably some more than others - none of them have played this particularly well imo..

I don't understand why it was risky for the club to not offer him a contract. He'd already informed the club that he will either retire or play overseas. In my world a man is only as good as his word but it seems that line of thought isn't something Daly subscribes to.

 

[The Who]

I am extremely surprised to see the levels of resentment towards DCE, Bozo did the same thing after winninga premiership yet he is still a Manly legend how is this any different? There is always two sides to a story and the management dont seem to be considered. I have alot of family and friends who are Manly members for over 40 years and hold no grudge against him. Solely blaming a player for not winning a trophy is crazy, Manly just like other teams mine included went through ****house management and coaching so there is always many variables. Just my two cents

HUGE difference.
The Bozo deal was jointly announced by him and the club. He didn't big note himself by announcing it on TV, blindsiding the club. The reason he was leaving was clear: money.
Bozo never disrespected Manly nor its fans by saying: I'll never play with Manly again, as DCE did. And we all know Bozo loved Manly and returned to coach them the premierships.
All dealings should have been kept in-house before DCE and the club announced his intentions and reasons.
If he is going for monetary reasons I can understand and accept it. It's the way clubs like Easts and Canterbury operate: buying success. DCE should have done it respectfully.

 

[Dion Johnson]

The Choc summary

According to current Sea Eagles Jersey Flegg coach Anthony Watmough - former teammate Daly Cherry-Evans "turned into a f******" after the side won the 2011 premiership amid contract negotiations 😮

- From the Hello Sport podcast,