The Daly Cherrygraph

[The Who]

Guess Boldy is going to have to rewrite the guidelines and standards for THE MANLY WAY.

 

[frank stokes]

The Choc summary

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According to current Sea Eagles Jersey Flegg coach Anthony Watmough - former teammate Daly Cherry-Evans "turned into a f******" after the side won the 2011 premiership amid contract negotiations 😮

- From the Hello Sport podcast,

Translation… Chez didn’t do what Choc thought he should…

 

[southsideeagle]

I'm a big DCE supporter but he has selected his path. If he does what he has done for 15 years he will put 100% for 2025. This may lead to something exciting, opportunities like this often do. I would rate this well behind releasing Api to sign Manase Fainu to more money, signing Schuster to $800,000 a year, messing up the salary cap plus many others.
Letting DCE go is nothing compared to Souths letting Reynolds go. At 31 he was too old to give him more then a 1 year contract extension. ok over last 3 years he has had a few injuries but still managed 20 games a season!!

 

[Raven Mad Manly Fan]

Because he's a tight arse?

Yes i know - it was a rhetorical question..

 

[frank stokes]

I'm a big DCE supporter but he has selected his path. If he does what he has done for 15 years he will put 100% for 2025. This may lead to something exciting, opportunities like this often do. I would rate this well behind releasing Api to sign Manase Fainu to more money, signing Schuster to $800,000 a year, messing up the salary cap plus many others.
Letting DCE go is nothing compared to Souths letting Reynolds go. At 31 he was too old to give him more then a 1 year contract extension. ok over last 3 years he has had a few injuries but still managed 20 games a season!!

It is F*cked (note the capital F) but it was gonna happen soon anyway so whatever, I am over it now (took me a couple of days though🤣)

 

[Mal Cochrane]

Listening to Six Tackles with Gus

He confirmed that there were phone calls last year offering DCE up for 2025. He didn’t believe them but received them

From who then? If it was from Mestrov or Gentle, or someone in the position to offer dce out, i would be quite surprised. If not, then it could have been anyone, even dce's camp

 

[Pete W]

I am extremely surprised to see the levels of resentment towards DCE, Bozo did the same thing after winninga premiership yet he is still a Manly legend how is this any different? There is always two sides to a story and the management dont seem to be considered. I have alot of family and friends who are Manly members for over 40 years and hold no grudge against him. Solely blaming a player for not winning a trophy is crazy, Manly just like other teams mine included went through ****house management and coaching so there is always many variables. Just my two cents

Resentment is deserved for the manner in which he is leaving. That's the difference between this and Bozo. Surprised you can't see this

Also, no one has solely blamed him for not winning a trophy. (A little telling if a halfback can't get his team even remotely close in over a decade however)

 

[TJ55]

HUGE difference.
The Bozo deal was jointly announced by him and the club. He didn't big note himself by announcing it on TV, blindsiding the club. The reason he was leaving was clear: money.
Bozo never disrespected Manly nor its fans by saying: I'll never play with Manly again, as DCE did. And we all know Bozo loved Manly and returned to coach them the premierships.
All dealings should have been kept in-house before DCE and the club announced his intentions and reasons.
If he is going for monetary reasons I can understand and accept it. It's the way clubs like Easts and Canterbury operate: buying success. DCE should have done it respectfully.

Fair point, maybe he should have gone about it the other way. I would agree Easts buy success,however I would disagree about Canterbury as the word success has been very foreign to me for quite some time lol

 

[Pete W]

‘Self-destruct button’: Bennett blasts NRL over DCE soap opera... calls for big change

‘Self-destruct button’: Bennett blasts NRL over DCE soap opera... calls for big change

www.foxsports.com.au

I agree with Wayne obviously, but this isn't the NRL "self-destructing" - this IS the NRL. These headlines feed the frenzy of interest, viewership, talking points, etc etc. The NRL is a soap opera that thrives on controversy, gossip, and innuendo. I think everyone except Manly thoroughly enjoyed Monday night's entertainment

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Aren't we also backed (owned) by a billionaire????
Why can't we also cherry-pick (pun intended) our choice of any elite players that come on the market whenever we like just as the roosters and bulldogs can?

I don’t believe the Penn’s are billionaires, I think they are certainly wealthy but not in Nick Politis or Laundry Hotels guy league.

 

[Mal Cochrane]

If it’s true the club were shopping him to others last year, then it confirms they weren’t going to re-sign him.

The question is, was it with DCE’s knowledge or behind his back?

If the latter, then I can understand resentment towards them from DCE.

If it was the former, then there is no reason for DCE to blindside the club like he has. Open, 2 way communication between both parties should have resulted in no bad blood between them.

But then if the club did that cause they were not going to sign him, and dce spits the dummy and does something crazy like announce it on a TV show after round 3, why did manly put an offer forward at lunch time Monday to try to keep him. Wouldn't they have smiled, cracked a beer and said sweet.

 

[Rackets]

In the end, the truth eventually catches up and comes out. There is soooo much talk about this from many various people, platforms, media outlets etc, that will uncover who's been lying and who's been telling the truth. I am convinced that DCE has signed elsewhere no doubt, even if he stated he doesn't know whether he's playing on or not and has been told by his new employer that he needs to let Manly and the world know he won't be there next year.
Why has uncle Nick not come out and squashed the DCE to chooks rumours?

 

[Freddo]

The whole thing looks like an elaborate plan probably hatched sometime last year and being carefully orchestrated to provide misinformation and red herrings to confuse the issue. Maybe this is to hide or confuse an illegal approach or deal with DCE.

I find it difficult to believe that Manly would shop a player around last year when he is coming off contract anyway. What would that achieve?

And now Gus is saying we had approaches for interest in DCE last year. Maybe he did but will he say who from? Possibly a player agent or an agents close relative, maybe DCE.

We don’t know, if Gus could enlighten us it might make this bit of information credible.

I’m with @Mark from Brisbane re all the deals are done and dusted.

This whole thing has been well planned and is being executed by master tacticians.

 

[Budgie]

Yes i know - it was a rhetorical question..

Sorry. Entirely missed the nuance

 

[47MVEagle]

But then if the club did that cause they were not going to sign him, and dce spits the dummy and does something crazy like announce it on a TV show after round 3, why did manly put an offer forward at lunch time Monday to try to keep him. Wouldn't they have smiled, cracked a beer and said sweet.

Yeah that’s true…who knows what to think!

 

[HoldenV8]

I'm just waiting for the "Give Back Toovey's Jumper" sign to appear at Brookie on Sunday.....

 

[fLIP]

We should sign Mary Fowler and use it as bait for Cleary.

 

[Michael Clare]

I'm in the - everyone has stuffed up here- camp but I just can't get past the fact that DCE went on the TV with such a spotlight and "fanfare" to tell those who actually give a toss, that he did not want to play for Manly ever again, so there, up yours. And I know that's not what he said but as a lifelong Manly supporter, what he did say and how he did say it, this is how it translated into my little brain.

And I'm just about over this whole "disrespected" drivel that Johns an others are going on with. How old is the bloke. It sounds like he's about as old as I do writing this rant. I mean seriously, what is worst the Club might have done? Is it that the Club didn't offer him a contract until they saw what someone else was going to offer?? Ok, maybe not smart but was that enough to then go and so publicly announce an "up yours" to those whom he felt wronged him?? Coz if that was the aim, all it did (from my perspective) is also give an up yours to those people that have supported him all these years. And then to engage in a chuckle fest with Gould and co afterwards ............ eesh!

I really don't care anymore whose fault it is, it's done and dusted. But geeez Chez, you could have done this so much better.

So endeth the rant. Now back to being an adult (but I feel better )

 

[frank stokes]

I don't understand why it was risky for the club to not offer him a contract. He'd already informed the club that he will either retire or play overseas. In my world a man is only as good as his word but it seems that line of thought isn't something Daly subscribes to.

The club could have offered him a contract anytime last year and I think the “retire or overseas” line (which was in December and from what I can work out came after Chez tested the open market) was simply a line to get the club off his back…

I suspect Chez fed them sh*t because he had already made up his mind (“I have been sleeping on this since December”) which is not cool but the fact that he ever tested the market was because the club wanted to minimise their risk (by stalling contract as long as possible) and minimise their cost (by gauging interest from other clubs to hopefully drive his value down)…

It was a ‘risky’ play if they seriously saw him as a vital cog in the machine but I suspect they only wanted him for 1 year and that is how they had balanced their books…

the last minute offer (where I reckon they tried to stretch their 1 year budget to 2 and that is what they could only find $1.5M at the most) was just embarrassing… where was that as a starting point in June last year?

All just my musings and I may be wide of the mark but one thing I am convinced that I am right on is that they are all lying to some degree…

 

[Michael Clare]

I feel exactly the same way. The people being disrespected the most are the long-suffering Manly fans. A television interview was NOT the way to go for our captain and a club legend.