Loobs
Living in the demountable.
Someone bearing down on you with an axe places you in imminent danger. That is quite obvious.My argument is we cant see if there is a guy holding a glass bottle, how do we know if there is an imminent threat??? You do not need to be cornered in a corner to use self defence! I do cash in transit for a living and we get trained on these scenarios all the time. Running away or "tactical retreat" is an option to get yourself out of a situation but its not your only option. There is sooo many factors that come into it and to base a decision on a 20 second video from accross the road is ludicrous. 4 or 5 of those guys could have been after Asofa out the front, there could be weapons, there could be a threat to harm him. All of these things would lead to acceptable self defence.
In my line of work say a guy runs at me with an axe from 5 or 6 metres away, sure I could run away BUT if i decide to shoot the guy dead I am 100% justified in doing so because "in my opinion" I feared for my safety .... As long as Asofa says "in his opinion" he felt for his safety then you would have to be 100% certain that he is not telling the truth to say that what he did is not justified! And with the small amount of evidence we do have you cannot say 100% he was just being a thug.
Here is a quote from Websters article on smh:
“When it erupted, the bouncers threw them all out and they were out on the street. They were all out the front and that’s when the big fella [Asofa-Solomona] saw one of the blokes with a bottle in his hand. He was going to glass him [Vunivalu] — so he got in first.”
Now watch the video at the start of this thread a few times and open it up so you can see what is happening clearly. That quote above is clearly false. First - whatever was happening was going for long enough for someone to decide to get their phone out and film. Secondly, Vunivalu is not in view. He comes in from the right later. So the idea that Vunivalu was going to get glassed is clearly not true. There are multiple staff members from the bar visible because they have the black shirts on with white writing. They are trying to create a barrier between the two. NAS is the one moving forward (through security). Whatever happened before, in this video, NAS is the aggressor.