Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

MadMarcus said:
He could have said we misinterpreted the rules but that's no excuse and we must pay the price. He could have even levied the exact same penalty. That would have cleared the way for Manly to accept the penalty with its dignity and the dignity of those involved in tact (and, as a further benefit, from what I can gather it may well be the truth, but sadly the truth is very much beside the point in this whole thing).

Instead he went down the path of saying we deliberately cheated. As I mentioned in an earlier post, this sullied the reputations of both Penn and Fulton (and others), which means this is no longer about the penalty so much as it is about clearing their name.

It's a dangerous game he is playing and it's driven by his ego, as are most of his missteps in recent times. I even heard him interviewed by Matty Johns on MMM saying that if fans have a problem with refs then they have a problem with him as he is telling the refs what to do and they are doing it (as if no fan would dare say they had a problem with him). Guess what Todd - a lot of us have a problem with you.

He has lost touch with reality and his "A Few Good Men" moment surely can't be far away.
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A Few Good Men moment... that’s hilarious.
 
Another as well,Toovey said he wasnt even approached or interviewed and he was here at the club in parts of the 5 years. Go figure that one out
 
MadMarcus said:
He could have said we misinterpreted the rules but that's no excuse and we must pay the price. He could have even levied the exact same penalty. That would have cleared the way for Manly to accept the penalty with its dignity and the dignity of those involved in tact (and, as a further benefit, from what I can gather it may well be the truth, but sadly the truth is very much beside the point in this whole thing).

Instead he went down the path of saying we deliberately cheated. As I mentioned in an earlier post, this sullied the reputations of both Penn and Fulton (and others), which means this is no longer about the penalty so much as it is about clearing their name.

It's a dangerous game he is playing and it's driven by his ego, as are most of his missteps in recent times. I even heard him interviewed by Matty Johns on MMM saying that if fans have a problem with refs then they have a problem with him as he is telling the refs what to do and they are doing it (as if no fan would dare say they had a problem with him). Guess what Todd - a lot of us have a problem with you.

He has lost touch with reality and his "A Few Good Men" moment surely can't be far away.
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Well said!!

Easily could have said “ they have misinterpreted the rules and broken them and as a result they must pay a fine but due to the fact that this was a misinterpretation and they are currently Cap compliant the fine will only be moderate in nature”.

He still gets his “ day in the sun” but doesn’t sully Penn & Co too much , lightish penalty everyone moves on.

But no he has to call it “ systematic rorting blah blah blah” and then defames an Immortal of the game.

I just think it’s so funny that his ego might be the very thing to bring him down.

HOWEVER

He’s not called Teflon Toddy for good reason so he won’t be going unless he’s dragged kicking and screaming out the door.
 
Batty said:
It doesn't.
I think he's just saying that it was never an issue cause it never happened. Where as Manly have been caught.

The guys lost my respect. It's clear that some reporters have agendas. Very few are actual journalists.
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Truly must have an agenda because if he was impartial like all journos are supposed to be he should have at least acknowledged the anomaly instead of brushing it off. Aren't they supposed to promote truth?
 
40 years an eagle said:
It's called poetic justice mate.@:)
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Kevinward777 said:
Joel Thompson on Fox “Everybody hates us, I’ve really noticed that since coming here. Through the media and lots of other stuff it’s really obvious. But we love that, being the underdog, it’s a unified club and a unified football team.”
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I just saw that myself, he had a few chuckles as well which was funny .
 
Batty said:
Questioned Hooper today on his blog. Initially he wouldn't answer my question but then I go this. His answer at the top and my question below.
(I've already hit him with a reply...see if he answers...)

Hi Luke,
All I know is the Maloney TPA wasn't registered. And Manly have been found guilty of rorting the salary cap. That's fairly black and white.

Hi James, Wondering why you won't answer my question about the difference between the Panthers Maloney Keno promised TPA and Manlys promised TPA situation?And please don't say it's because you have soooo many questions. This is one of the slowest blogs yet. Talk about an agenda....let me guess.... Your an NRL advocate?... Thank God for Kenty. At least he calls a spade a spade.
-Luke
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That's a weak copout of a reply you got from him - funny how the other night on the telly he seemed to know enough about it to put the slipper in to Manly bigtime but now when questioned about it he falls back on "All I know is..." & "That's fairly black and white", which in itself is contradictory - how can something that's "black and white" aka "unambiguous" be described as "fairly"? It's either one or the other right, hence the use of the expression?
 
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Weren't we breached on some 3rd parties that fell through AND while we all know that Maloneys deal was a breach, the deal went from Moylan to Maloney which means Moylans contract was a breach the previous years also.

What a absolute idiotic wanker that guy is! He couldn't explain the difference so he fobbed it off.
 
Just side tracking a little. But what has happened to Des Hasler. Is he still fighting the Dogs for 2 mill. I heard a rumour he had been set up with a job indirectly by Greenberg. If so this would be a means of silencing him about Foran. Anyone know?
 
Bearfax said:
Just side tracking a little. But what has happened to Des Hasler. Is he still fighting the Dogs for 2 mill. I heard a rumour he had been set up with a job indirectly by Greenberg. If so this would be a means of silencing him about Foran. Anyone know?
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Still going to court I read on dogs forum
 
maxta said:
Just another quick point about all this which may seem coincidence, but I feel is related....
So it’s 5 years ago this apparently started with Manly losing the guidelines of this TPA trivial crap.
About the same time Greenberg was involved in luring Hasler (illegally) while still at Manly, to the Dogs.
There was also big plans to tear the heart out of Manly and steal Foran....in fact this whole debacle created a chaotic effect on the Manly club and the players looked lost till Toovey, a genuine legend, was able to do an Amazing job in regrouping the squad....
Point being, Greenberg was right behind the underhanded scam that got Manly in a code red situation and guess what....5 years ago....not to say this makes Manly innocent, but damn it’s a good case that Greenberg was behind the rot that started at this time and is far worse than anything I am yet to hear about that Manly have done.
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You are getting right to the heart of the matter now my feathered friend! The elephant in the room (unmentioned by television "experts") is that Todd Greenburg's previous devious attacks on our club renders his decision to fine us and declare our greatest ever player (immortal Bob Fulton) a cheat at best dubious, and at worst plain reprehensible. Seriously, Todd Greenburg lecturing Manly on fair play and ethics is like delivering lettuces by courier rabbit!
 
Bearfax said:
Just side tracking a little. But what has happened to Des Hasler. Is he still fighting the Dogs for 2 mill. I heard a rumour he had been set up with a job indirectly by Greenberg. If so this would be a means of silencing him about Foran. Anyone know?
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Dez still wants his 2.4 million :nod:
 
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