Sack Seibold Immediately

[Chip and Chase]

i was told the same...in fact its the main reason he wanted to leave...his view apparently is we are no hope of winning a premiership with siebold coaching

The irony of that statement !! Siebold thinking exact same thing about a certain overrated halfback who he didn't want to resign.

 

[Phobia]

So if Chammas is to be believed, and Chammas talked to Mestrov about this, not even Seibold wants to coach.

I've been a defender of Seibold, with the assumption that he actually wants to coach this NRL side through a rebuild in the future, when we have some cash to play with. Nope. He's going to leave the club, as the rebuild occurs. ****ing what?

I saw someone comparing this to Dave Warner announcing his retirement, so they couldn't drop him. You either sack the man, or he leaves the position anyway in 2028. Genius gambit. It's a shame he couldn't do one on, in you know, the on-field rut we are in.

And of all people, he's keeping the seat warm for Ennis??? Why him??

I seriously don't know how anyone can possibly think that Ennis is the next Bellamy, or that he's more capable than any more experienced assistant or ex-coach, in Arthur, Ballin, Tooves, etc. Tooves is a better option at this point. Ennis was coaching our hookers, halves, and "end of sets". In recent weeks, that involves DCE kicking it dead. What brilliant strategy.

Unrelated video of DCE calling Ennis a "pain in the arse".

What the hell is the club doing. I had Mestrov as a smooth operator, but he's either being used as a gearstick by Penn, or alternatively, as a dildo. I don't know which yet. Fogarty is in for a ride.

 

[eaglebuzz]

If Siebold has lost the players then he should go now. Bring in Brad Arthur with Matt Ballin as assistant.

 

[Scorpio]

Buy 1 medium to high tier forward with the combined money of the old guys we are buying, and the rest should be juniors.

"As much as they're old and slow, at least they know how to be NRL-players"

I think the above statement is a bit of a cop out statement. Id take someone who is young and fast with potential over the above. The old and slow types only work if they are the Cam Smiths of the world who can rely on footy smarts. Brown, TKO, etc dont fit into that category.

You can play young forwards like Navale that have potential, but if they don't yet have the physicality to play a lot of minutes every week and impose themselves on the opposition, then they tire, they don't set a platform for the rest of the team, and the opposition runs through our defence.

Then we lose games... Then this happens...

Could it be worse than we are currently doing? Yes, absolutely... we have same number of wins as the team in 7th. Not as nearly as dire as today's headlines would suggest.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

You can play young forwards like Navale that have potential, but if they don't yet have the physicality to play a lot of minutes every week and impose themselves on the opposition, then they tire, they don't set a platform for the rest of the team, and the opposition runs through our defence.

Then we lose games... Then this happens...

Could it be worse than we are currently doing? Yes, absolutely... we have same number of wins as the team in 7th. Not as nearly as dire as today's headlines would suggest.

We are losing with an old and tiring roster. Youngsters can learn with experience. I remember when Tedesco, Brooks and Moses came onto the scene with the Tigers and copped a lot of losses. Its part of the learning curve.

 

[eaglebuzz]

The sad thing in all of this is that if Max Delmege hadn't run out of money back in 2010 we could have kept Des and none of this crap would have happened.

 

[BOZO]

Could it be worse than we are currently doing?

Nothing worse than another Manly year without a premiership
The only consolation prize is a wooden spoon
and this is Possible under the underachiever

 

[BOZO]

We are losing with an old and tiring roster. Youngsters can learn with experience. I remember when Tedesco, Brooks and Moses came onto the scene with the Tigers and copped a lot of losses. Its part of the learning curve.

Tedesco has won grand finals since then
Moses has played in a Grand final since them
Brooks is still in his learning curve

 

[Spartan Eagle]

Bring Big Ange in. He always wins 🏆 in his second season.

 

[sheridanstand78]

If it is true that Seibold wants to finish coaching at the end of 2027. I think its urgent that the club bite the bullet and appoint a new coach that has Manly DNA in him!

Matt Ballin bled for this club as a player and he gets the place. I would seriously consider him and also groom Choc.

There are too many passengers right now, and we need some ruthless decisions to be made about our roster and lopsided salary cap.

The place needs an injection of youth. Our recruitment needs a total overhaul and right now through all the grades, there is lack of quality and performance!

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

One could almost believe Chammas reads some of these threads. From the SMH:

The Ennis succession plan and push for an Eagles old boy: Inside Manly’s coaching conundrum

By Michael Chammas
June 17, 2025 — 1930K

At the end of last season, with Manly in discussions with Anthony Seibold and his manager Isaac Moses about a contract extension, the coach brought up the possibility of setting a finish line.

He admitted he didn’t want to remain an NRL head coach for the long term, and sought an extension through to the end of 2027 that would take him to the end of his career with the clipboard.

That didn’t mean he was ready to sail off into the sunset. Instead, Seibold opened discussions about moving into a management role at the club once his coaching days were over.

As part of those discussions, Sea Eagles CEO Tony Mestrov approached Michael Ennis, a consultant on Seibold’s coaching staff, to gauge his appetite about succeeding Seibold.

Ennis, who had been recommended by Seibold as his long-term replacement, has long held aspirations to coach in the NRL.

At the time Mestrov approached him, Ennis had only just put his hand up for the Parramatta job vacated by Brad Arthur last season. The Eels ultimately decided he did not to have the relevant experience to take the job.

Anthony Seibold and Michael Ennis at Manly training.CREDIT: GETTY

Mestrov had a similar view and wanted Ennis to move into a fulltime role to help his transition to a head coach.

As it stands, Ennis is at every Manly training session bar the captain’s run. If he moved into a full-time assistant’s role, Ennis would have to forego his lucrative contract at Fox Sports just to add an additional 30-60 minutes of training per week to his commitments at the Sea Eagles.

It wasn’t a move he was ready to entertain immediately, but Ennis indicated to the club he would do so in 2027, the final year leading into his proposed takeover.

After discussions with his management, Ennis decided against signing a deal with the Sea Eagles that could have guaranteed him the top job in 2028. A lot can happen in three-and-a-half years.

Anthony Seibold is under pressure.CREDIT: LOUIE DOUVIS

Meanwhile, in the background at Brookvale, some have been agitating for the return of a Manly identity to lead the club into the future.

There is a strong push for Broncos assistant coach Matt Ballin to return to the Sea Eagles, where he previously played and coached in an assistant capacity.

He has since served a five-year apprenticeship in the lower grades, rival NRL clubs and the State of Origin arena with Queensland.

Ballin recently met with Seibold at a Freshwater cafe, where Ballin indicated that he saw his future back in Sydney.

Manly coach Anthony Seibold is facing an injury crisis.CREDIT: GETTY

The Sea Eagles deny there is a move to bring Ballin back to the club, but he does have the old boys in his corner.

The push to brink back Manly figures to fill positions of power – led by a vocal group with ties to the club – extends to the administration, with NRL integrity boss Jason King being backed as a potential replacement for Mestrov.

The CEO has previously denied looking for the exit door, despite rumours that he had expressed interest in a job at NRL head office.

The other coaching option is Arthur, who has taken Super League club Leeds Rhinos from ninth to third on the ladder since taking over midway through last year.

Brad Arthur’s son Jakob plays for Manly.CREDIT: NRL PHOTOS

Arthur, whose Rhinos team is currently on a five-game winning streak, worked as an assistant coach at Manly under Geoff Toovey in 2013 before taking on the head coaching job at Parramatta.

He was heavily linked to a return to Brookvale as Toovey’s successor, but knocked back attempts from the late Bob Fulton to bring him back to the club to remain at the Eels.

Arthur wants to return to the NRL and was close to getting the job at the Perth Bears before missing out to Mal Meninga.

Much will hinge on the next few weeks. Manly will do some soul-searching during the bye this week before two winnable games at Brookvale Oval against the out-of-sorts Wests Tigers and the injury-ravaged South Sydney before another bye.

If they lose those two games, and if the lack of effort that has plagued their last two performances is not remedied, there will be a lot more than a series of seven-minute player interviews taking place behind the scenes.

Seibold is starting to lose members of his dressing room. Frustrations with the way he handled the player performance interviews on Monday, coupled with a growing view that his coaching methodology is limited, are placing enormous pressure on him to turn things around.

The blaming of the Daly Cherry-Evans saga for his team’s poor performances is viewed by sections at the club as a valid distraction, but not enough of an excuse to justify their underwhelming efforts on the field.

“At the moment, Seibs is safe at this point,” Mestrov said on Monday. “Seibs understands as well as I do, it’s all about winning games. Seibs is safe at this point.”

In rugby league, those words can often be the kiss of death.