Terry Zarsoff
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Mestrov needs a manager?
[Resurrected] SACK Des Hasler!!
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Peter C
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I doubt it very much that they would have a Director of Coaching position for Des, too much water under the bridge to give such a role to Des, seeing the vitriol that's flying around the club
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No that was a misinterpretation by me.
But the tartak thing is the more concerning one
Bearfax
Grizzly old fart
Unfortunately Penn owns the club. Unless he is prepared to sell, yes I guess it applies equally but it is as it is.
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It's only a game ...
I have a theory about how Des's team selection process. Over the decades there has been many anecdotes about Des's frugality with money & possessions. I would suggest this as a reason why Des does not drop more highly paid players, even when they are out of form. When a lesser paid player deserves to be promoted, Des won't replace the more highly paid player. It seems like he doesn't want to 'waste' the more highly paid player by not selecting him. There may have been exceptions to this over the years, but it appears Des's mode of team selection may be tied to this aspect of his personality. What do others think?
Yeh nah.
Monday Buzz: Former Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib says Manly must sack coach Des Hasler
The man who sacked Des Hasler at Canterbury has warned Manly to act quickly or suffer the same fate as the Bulldogs.Phil Rothfield Sports Editor-at-large
The man who sacked Des Hasler at the Canterbury Bulldogs says the Manly Sea Eagles need to do the same thing immediately. Ray Dib was chairman of the Bulldogs when Hasler departed in tumultuous circumstances that are strikingly similar to the current power struggle on the northern beaches. “They should do a payout now and move on,” Dib said. “Too much damage has been done to relationships. Once you lose trust there is no going back. “It’s in the best interests of everyone. Just cut it off now because there is no hope when the two parties can’t work together.” We can reveal Manly Sea Eagles owner and chairman Scott Penn and chief executive Tony Mestrov have privately spoken about protecting the club from the turmoil that engulfed Belmore in 2017. The dispute at Canterbury finished up with Hasler getting a $1 million payout in an out-of-court settlement.
The Bulldogs, since Hasler’s departure, have not finished higher than 12th on the ladder.
They are only now showing signs of recovery. This is why Manly is taking the power away from Hasler. “He’s been head coach, head of recruitment, head of football and CEO for too long,” said one Manly insider, “Des wants to control everything.”Manly keep looking back to some horrible mistakes that were made at Canterbury in recruitment while Dessie was running the show.
In 2015, they foolishly offloaded Michael Ennis (for Michael Lichaa) and Dale Finucane to Melbourne Storm. The next year they let Shaun Lane and Damien Cook go. In 2019, two years after Hasler left, the Morris brothers Josh and Brett were forced out by salary cap pressure that Hasler’s big back-ended contracts created.
Ray Dib. Picture: Jonathan Ng
Front page of The Daily Telegraph.
These included under-performing Greg Eastwood and Tony ‘T Rex’ Williams, who were earning $800,000-a-season towards the end of the contracts. This is why Manly have got on the front foot with Hasler. It has become such a bitter power struggle with Hasler’s camp now even threatening legal action.It’s sad and could be seen as disrespectful that such a coaching legend is being squeezed out so ruthlessly. Yet you can almost understand that the club needs to go in a new direction. They can’t afford five years of terrible results like the Bulldogs have experienced.
They now see their future in former South Sydney and Broncos coach Anthony Seibold.
And they want a football club structured in a way where the head coach has nowhere near the power and authority that Hasler has had at Brookvale for years.
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JenEagle
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I am certain when Penn brought dean back in 2019 there were rules then that he didn’t have any power over the salary cap.Monday Buzz: Former Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib says Manly must sack coach Des Hasler
The man who sacked Des Hasler at Canterbury has warned Manly to act quickly or suffer the same fate as the Bulldogs.
Phil RothfieldSports Editor-at-large
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The man who sacked Des Hasler at the Canterbury Bulldogs says the Manly Sea Eagles need to do the same thing immediately. Ray Dib was chairman of the Bulldogs when Hasler departed in tumultuous circumstances that are strikingly similar to the current power struggle on the northern beaches. “They should do a payout now and move on,” Dib said. “Too much damage has been done to relationships. Once you lose trust there is no going back. “It’s in the best interests of everyone. Just cut it off now because there is no hope when the two parties can’t work together.” We can reveal Manly Sea Eagles owner and chairman Scott Penn and chief executive Tony Mestrov have privately spoken about protecting the club from the turmoil that engulfed Belmore in 2017. The dispute at Canterbury finished up with Hasler getting a $1 million payout in an out-of-court settlement.
The Bulldogs, since Hasler’s departure, have not finished higher than 12th on the ladder.
They are only now showing signs of recovery. This is why Manly is taking the power away from Hasler. “He’s been head coach, head of recruitment, head of football and CEO for too long,” said one Manly insider, “Des wants to control everything.”Manly keep looking back to some horrible mistakes that were made at Canterbury in recruitment while Dessie was running the show.
In 2015, they foolishly offloaded Michael Ennis (for Michael Lichaa) and Dale Finucane to Melbourne Storm. The next year they let Shaun Lane and Damien Cook go. In 2019, two years after Hasler left, the Morris brothers Josh and Brett were forced out by salary cap pressure that Hasler’s big back-ended contracts created.
Ray Dib. Picture: Jonathan Ng
Front page of The Daily Telegraph.
These included under-performing Greg Eastwood and Tony ‘T Rex’ Williams, who were earning $800,000-a-season towards the end of the contracts. This is why Manly have got on the front foot with Hasler. It has become such a bitter power struggle with Hasler’s camp now even threatening legal action.It’s sad and could be seen as disrespectful that such a coaching legend is being squeezed out so ruthlessly. Yet you can almost understand that the club needs to go in a new direction. They can’t afford five years of terrible results like the Bulldogs have experienced.
They now see their future in former South Sydney and Broncos coach Anthony Seibold.
And they want a football club structured in a way where the head coach has nowhere near the power and authority that Hasler has had at Brookvale for years.
The reason he has the power is because we go through a ceo every six months so there was no one left. How is that des Fault ?
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
Helpful advice from Ray. No mention of who was acting to recruit Hasler in the first place - Dib Dab for one. Isn’t he mates with Peters? Similar hairstyles.
One of the conditions of Hasler rejoining Manly was that he didn’t have control over contract negotiations with players. Has that changed, or was it incorrect reporting at the time?
As for him being the ‘CEO’ et al, is it any wonder why? And no prizes for guessing who the Manly ‘insider’ is.
One of the conditions of Hasler rejoining Manly was that he didn’t have control over contract negotiations with players. Has that changed, or was it incorrect reporting at the time?
As for him being the ‘CEO’ et al, is it any wonder why? And no prizes for guessing who the Manly ‘insider’ is.
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Who knows if Siebold comes in he might be able to lure Sam Burgess out of retirement to do a Ben Kennedy for us. Burgess did want to play for us when he was still in England. it would certainly add some mongrel to the pack.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
He has been retired from football for more than a year. A big ‘ask’ to make a return at his age.
Also, South Sydney might have something to say about that plan.
Also, South Sydney might have something to say about that plan.
Monday Buzz: Former Bulldogs chairman Ray Dib says Manly must sack coach Des Hasler
The man who sacked Des Hasler at Canterbury has warned Manly to act quickly or suffer the same fate as the Bulldogs.
Phil Rothfield Sports Editor-at-large
The man who sacked Des Hasler at the Canterbury Bulldogs says the Manly Sea Eagles need to do the same thing immediately. Ray Dib was chairman of the Bulldogs when Hasler departed in tumultuous circumstances that are strikingly similar to the current power struggle on the northern beaches. “They should do a payout now and move on,” Dib said. “Too much damage has been done to relationships. Once you lose trust there is no going back. “It’s in the best interests of everyone. Just cut it off now because there is no hope when the two parties can’t work together.” We can reveal Manly Sea Eagles owner and chairman Scott Penn and chief executive Tony Mestrov have privately spoken about protecting the club from the turmoil that engulfed Belmore in 2017. The dispute at Canterbury finished up with Hasler getting a $1 million payout in an out-of-court settlement.
The Bulldogs, since Hasler’s departure, have not finished higher than 12th on the ladder.
They are only now showing signs of recovery. This is why Manly is taking the power away from Hasler. “He’s been head coach, head of recruitment, head of football and CEO for too long,” said one Manly insider, “Des wants to control everything.”Manly keep looking back to some horrible mistakes that were made at Canterbury in recruitment while Dessie was running the show.
In 2015, they foolishly offloaded Michael Ennis (for Michael Lichaa) and Dale Finucane to Melbourne Storm. The next year they let Shaun Lane and Damien Cook go. In 2019, two years after Hasler left, the Morris brothers Josh and Brett were forced out by salary cap pressure that Hasler’s big back-ended contracts created.
Ray Dib. Picture: Jonathan Ng
Front page of The Daily Telegraph.
These included under-performing Greg Eastwood and Tony ‘T Rex’ Williams, who were earning $800,000-a-season towards the end of the contracts. This is why Manly have got on the front foot with Hasler. It has become such a bitter power struggle with Hasler’s camp now even threatening legal action.It’s sad and could be seen as disrespectful that such a coaching legend is being squeezed out so ruthlessly. Yet you can almost understand that the club needs to go in a new direction. They can’t afford five years of terrible results like the Bulldogs have experienced.
They now see their future in former South Sydney and Broncos coach Anthony Seibold.
And they want a football club structured in a way where the head coach has nowhere near the power and authority that Hasler has had at Brookvale for years.
The thing that really pisses me off about this situation is how predictable it was. It was always going to happen, and it was just a matter of when and how. It was predicted by quite a few of us before Des was brought back into the club. It was always going to end in tears, and I remember using that exact same line back then.
Well this situation is one for the Des fan boys and Des disciples. Regardless of how you want to spin it, the second coming of Des, has put us into a far worse situation, than we were in before he came back.
After TB aka dickflog, we had the chance to bring in a new coach with new ideas, and a contemporary management style, to build a new club culture around. We chose not to, and here we are.
Instead, we went for the quick fix with Des, and invested into Western Sydney with Blacktown. How any of you flogs, thought that was sustainable is beyond me.
Bravo to all those involved. I know you all to busy deflecting blame, and not taking responsibility, but you know who you are.
On serious note why do we settle for anything other than the best? I know the owner is a tight arse!
But why don't we go after Bellamy, Robinson or Cleary. Ruffle some feathers and aim for the stars, this is Manly not the Titans.
The Dogs weren't frightened to go after Des while he was busy winning a comp.
But why don't we go after Bellamy, Robinson or Cleary. Ruffle some feathers and aim for the stars, this is Manly not the Titans.
The Dogs weren't frightened to go after Des while he was busy winning a comp.
Ron E. Gibbs
First Grader
Would love to see some ambition and intent, bob, but yeah, Penn will always take the cheapest and worst option. At least he's predictable.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
^^Thanks E4L.
In summary: everything is Hasler’s fault.
Including the stuff (Barrett, Blacktown, management structures, Pride jerseys, etc.) that is not his fault.
Got it.
In summary: everything is Hasler’s fault.
Including the stuff (Barrett, Blacktown, management structures, Pride jerseys, etc.) that is not his fault.
Got it.
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