Sack Barrett

Should we sack Trent


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I'm not a fan of Barret, but to me this indicates the club's failing as his employer and not a sign that Barret does not have the strength to be a coach. Everyone, no matter how tough you, are has a breaking point and it looks like Barrett has reached his. I also think there are two approaches to NRL coaching, one is to give it everything you have and the other show up and do enough to get you a paycheck. Despite his apparent shortcomings I think Barrett is the former. The real question is why is the club allowing someone who appears to be suffering from significant work related stress to continue, especially when it is most likely impacting on his and the team's performance and could/should they have provided him adequate support in the first place before it got this far.
I thought I would have moved on from Tooves sacking by now, but I am constantly reminded of how unfair and politically motivated it was. Barrett now appears free of any interaction from management, positive or negative and I am becoming more and more convinced about where the real problems at Manly are coming from.
Speaking of Toovey . He had no support from the club , and unlike Trent he had negative media headlines about his job constantly , he had our owner putting pressure on him in the media and was finally shown the door and at all times he showed his toughness and composure to not break down .
Toovey was tougher on and off the field than Trent and it also showed in their coaching career .
You need strong characters to build a strong culture
I have lost confidence in our coaching staff . I don't believe we can build a resilient and winning culture from them .
Here comes another Honesty Session ; I must confess that our coaching staff have brought me to tears .
Yes @niccipops It is ok for grown man like me to openly cry in a forum
 
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Speaking of Toovey . He had no support from the club , and unlike Trent he had negative media headlines about his job constantly , he had our owner putting pressure on him in the media and was finally shown the door and at all times he showed his toughness and composure to not break down .
Toovey was tougher on and on the field than Trent and it also showed in their coaching career .
You need strong characters to build a strong culture
I have lost confidence in our coaching staff . I don't believe we can build a resilient and winning culture from them .
Here comes another Honesty Session ; I must confess that our coaching staff have brought me to tears .
Yes @niccipops It is ok for grown man like me to openly cry in a forum
Tooves was far worse off, no question, but I would stop short of saying he has Penn's support and his emotion is evidence of that. There is definitely noise from that direction that wants to assure us fans that they made the correct and fair decision in hiring our current coaching staff but I think this is far more about ego than providing their employees the support they need to go about their jobs.
 
Mate as I said, I think its time for a shake up on the coaching side of things

My point is people cannot criticize him not being Manly and therefore not caring about results enough then criticize him for getting too emotional about our current plight

You can't have you're cake and eat it too
Pretty sure not even Manly men with all the passion in the world cried in front of their troops before any games.

If he is having a breakdown he needs to go for the benefit of his health. If he isn’t having a breakdown he needs to go for the benefit of Manly’s health. It’s pretty simple really.
 
Pretty sure not even Manly men with all the passion in the world cried in front of their troops before any games.

If he is having a breakdown he needs to go for the benefit of his health. If he isn’t having a breakdown he needs to go for the benefit of Manly’s health. It’s pretty simple really.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat that I agree it is time for a change.

that is not the point
 
crying in front of the team because it’s all gone to sh1t is NOT passion.

Agree, it is a sign of someone way out of their depth, with no idea how to fix something broken. It is a feeling of utter hopelessness.
I suffered that feeling from a long time past and will never forget it.
I cut my losses and moved on, Barrett should do the same.
 
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Bang on! Not only is he not cut out for it, he never earnt it in the first place. Nice guys finish last, Barrett is weak as piss.

No coaching credentials, no man mentoring skills, can't create an effective game plan, can't retain good talent just attracts duds,puts up with poor conditioning coaches,can't select a winning team, reluctant to promote youth,won't relegate because of poor performance. Exudes hopelessness in his press conferences and somehow is above media scrutiny for his abysmal coaching record.Time to go Barrett. Tell your story walking.
 
Phil Gould would look like a fool in Barrett does end up there next year after this tweet just posted:

If one more journalist suggests Trent Barrett &/or John Cartwright are coming to Panthers next season, I will scream. Read my lips: ITS NOT HAPPENING. It’s never been suggested. It’s never been considered. Apologies to fans of both clubs. I don’t know who starts this stuff.
 
When I look at all the great leaders in history they all had the great characteristics of courage , composure and a great sense of optimism
Every leader will eventually face adversity and in times of adversity courage , composure and optimism is a must to inspire others and prevail .
Strong leaders do not get overwhelmed by focusing on the failures around them and start to cry , they look at the challenges ahead as opportunities to improve .
They show optimism and not tears . A sign of a teary leader in difficult times is a sign of helplessness and despair and with helplessness and despair you cant build any winning foundations
When The Germans were bombing the crap out of Great Britain and we are not talking up and unders here ,we are talking real explosive bombs , Winston the great leader did not cry , instead he cried out loud words of encouragement and hope to inspire his people .
Music to my ears ....
"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets
, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."


The great Winston
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Phil Gould would look like a fool in Barrett does end up there next year after this tweet just posted:

If one more journalist suggests Trent Barrett &/or John Cartwright are coming to Panthers next season, I will scream. Read my lips: ITS NOT HAPPENING. It’s never been suggested. It’s never been considered. Apologies to fans of both clubs. I don’t know who starts this stuff.

Why would they? Only if they're mad,stupid,moronic,dumb,desperate,imbecilic,clueless,idiotic........
 
When I look at all the great leaders in history they all had the great characteristics of courage , composure and a great sense of optimism
Every leader will eventually face adversity and in times of adversity courage , composure and optimism is a must to inspire others and prevail .
Strong leaders do not get overwhelmed by focusing on the failures around them and start to cry , they look at the challenges ahead as opportunities to improve .
They show optimism and not tears . A sign of a teary leader in difficult times is a sign of helplessness and despair and with helplessness and despair you cant build any winning foundations
When The Germans were bombing the crap out of Great Britain and we are not talking up and unders here ,we are talking real explosive bombs , Winston the great leader did not cry , instead he cried out loud words of encouragement and hope to inspire his people .
Music to my ears ....
"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets
, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."


The great Winston
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You will have to translate that to all the SNAGS
 
Phil Gould would look like a fool in Barrett does end up there next year after this tweet just posted:

If one more journalist suggests Trent Barrett &/or John Cartwright are coming to Panthers next season, I will scream. Read my lips: ITS NOT HAPPENING. It’s never been suggested. It’s never been considered. Apologies to fans of both clubs. I don’t know who starts this stuff.

In the meantime Silvertails member @strone33 was seen on the Corso in a foetal possision heard screaming “ noooooooooo”.
 
Phil Gould would look like a fool in Barrett does end up there next year after this tweet just posted:

If one more journalist suggests Trent Barrett &/or John Cartwright are coming to Panthers next season, I will scream. Read my lips: ITS NOT HAPPENING. It’s never been suggested. It’s never been considered. Apologies to fans of both clubs. I don’t know who starts this stuff.
Gould would be a fool to take Trent & John off our hands full stop !
 
Stayed in Gladstone last night and had an interesting conversation at the Yatch club with one who frequents the office (said den of eniquity)
Apparently one of the Manlyboys was filthy that his team mate had a “quickie” with one of the pretty butterfly’s flying about. Him being partnered and all.
You will never guess the ones in the starring roles....or maybe you might.
We dont really need any more of this sht mate .
 
Yep, on both fronts.

Ferris also sent me a message to come and "chat" with him at Narrabeen whatever that means.

Worded it well though, because he could just say he didn't intimate that, but yeah. I should send it to Gorman.

Really professional. If I did that to customers in my workplace, I'd be sacked.

Trying to bully me like he did Willie Peters.
 

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