Positive vibes up Manly way - Haig

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  1. byso

    By:bysoOct 21, 2005
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    This is the latest offering by Haig who has a sportsnews website

    Positive vibes up Manly way - Haig on MSE
    http://www.manlyseaeagles.com.au/message-board-detail.asp?mbid=2837&s=0

    To be honest I needed a bucket while reading it. But it's a worthy piece of work still.

    What do you chaps think?
     
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    It is a bit tacky.
     
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    By:Canteen WorkerOct 21, 2005
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    it glosses over the situation totally and is full of sugar and sweetener.

    There are lots of positives out of 2005 but if we overlook the deficiencies we fool ourselves.

    The article lost credibility when it mentioned Rep Players and put King and Matai in the same sentence. Whilst he is a good young talent Bullet is hardly rep class yet either!
     
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    By:GuestOct 21, 2005
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    Sounds all nice and comfortable. Pity the real situation with the club is far from it as there will always be factions and in fighting in a football club.

    Does anyone know if the club provides a cash flow forecast to members on how it is going to fund itself for the next 12 months? How about what is happening with junior development?
     
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    By:GartsOct 21, 2005
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    it is good to look at the positives every now and then instead of focusing on the negatives all the time.
     
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    By:Canteen WorkerOct 21, 2005
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    I am not sure where we stand as far as companies go. We are not publically listed so I don't think we have to make a public statement of our financial situation etc. It would be fascinating to know the streams of revenue against what we paying players, expenses etc. To see 2005 against the previous years would also be fascinating.
     
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    A ethics based quuestion for all - should haig declare his hand as the site admin? For the person who stumbles accross the post they would have no idea that he is the one who is the admin....
     
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    By:MatabeleOct 22, 2005
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    Haig is not sire admin - Aaron is.

    I would say that is Haig's audition for a more pemanent gig with MSE.

    Whilst I agree with Byso that a bucket would come in handy, in fairness the official club web-site is hardly going to post a "matabele" special bagging the crap out of the place.

    I can't think of one corporation that would do that.

    On balalnce, whilst it's nauseatingly positive, at least it is a step in the right direction with regard to getting some original content on MSE that will draw a crowd.
     
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    By:bysoOct 22, 2005
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    :blah: :blah:

    Sugar and spice and all things nice :lie:
     
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    would the club allow the article to point out all the things wrong within the organisation and have it posted on the official website, if you think they should well :stupid:

    it would be like the company I work for posting a update under the news section on our website which highlights all our flaws and internal problems. it is not going to happen, they are going to focus on the positives within the organisation. as they should!!!
     
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    By:ToddOct 23, 2005
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    And you wonder why they neglected your offer.........
     
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    By:GuestOct 23, 2005
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    Because the truth hurts?
     
  13. Matabele

    By:MatabeleOct 23, 2005
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    Haig was a part of our offer Todd. :roll:
     
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    Todd may be having a dig but sadly I am sure he is close to the money. No way particular personalities at our club would sanction certain posters on this site who say what they think, rather than what they would like to hear.

    Haig's article, whilst basically factual, is a spin on the 'True Supporter" debate that a few prominent and hardened supporters have used over the years on the club forum to deflect any perceived critical analysis of Manly and its operation. It seems very much intended for that audience and will have those few 'dinosaurs' clapping their hands :clap: and have some congratulating themselves that it is just how they think and feel.

    That is:

    to be a proper supporter of Manly you must:

    a) never say bad things about any of the players (leave that to the bad and horrible media who hate us). They all try very hard.

    b)must never question any management decision (cause they bleed for Manly so they must be right)

    c) must never get upset, even after record losses substandard play and pathetic performance (as we lucky to have a club and if you don't like it go and find another team.)

    It finishes with the old chestnut: "Why don't you support the team? - your negative talk doesn't support." despite the fact that the very people making the "often constructive' criticism go to games week by week, buy the merchandise and have followed Manly since Noah slipped on the ramp of the Ark.
     
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    Are you suggesting that Haig was being penalised for an association with me?

    That's fairly petty IMO.
     
  16. Ryan

    By:RyanOct 23, 2005
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    It's the ability to stop holes being created on the ship before they happen that would lead to success, and continuation of the ship. We aren't supposed to be a marooned vessel lamenting in the water. We are supposed to be a speed boat, with trained mechanics always looking for ways to improve the engine, and get an edge over its rivals.

    In my opinion, this write up was in a way asking the fans to accept and celebrate mediocrity.

    By only determining one's faults, can one fix those faults, and ensure that misdirection does not occur going forward.

    Like the movie "Meet The Fockers" - Gaylords parents have a shrine dedicated to him with all his 8th & 9th place ribbons. Going on what was written in this piece by Haig, maybe he is asking for us to do the same with Manly?
     
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    Mata - my post was more about the 'possible' view of some in the club rather than about you. It wouldn't surprise me though.

    Just to read a couple of the responses on MSE is pretty interesting - 'it almost made me cry' etc

    To use Ryan's boat metaphor I just hope we aren't driving a tinny with a 25hp motor on unleaded, thinking that we have secured the JetCat.
     
  18. Dan

    By:DanOct 24, 2005
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    And you wonder why they neglected your offer.........
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    How funny.....Todd Haig was the main driving force behind our proposal.

    Matabele, Haig and myself worked on it and haig was positioning himself as the content director of the site. You would probably be interested to know that Haig, matabele and myself often converse on such matters.

    The irony in your statement will probably be lost on you, but it si funny
     
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    That has got to be a gee up by Haig
     
  20. lsz

    By:lszOct 24, 2005
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    please excuse the idiot (me!)
     
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