Ryan
Journey Man
Thanks mate, I am too, but FMD that Scott Penn is uninspiring. Comments like I called him when no-one else wanted him, and when he abandoned us last time..ffs.
OFFICIAL: HASLER SACKED & SEIBOLD NEW COACH
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Thanks mate, I am too, but FMD that Scott Penn is uninspiring. Comments like I called him when no-one else wanted him, and when he abandoned us last time..ffs.
I understand that but there are more respectful ways to articulate your self (but we are all different in that way I guess)
eagleron
Bencher
A clean cut is the only option, the Hasler situation had gone beyond the point of no return, in hindsight bringing Hasler back was far from the best thing for the club and the supporters. 2023 would have been just more of the same with frustrations boiling over after each disinterested display, change was desperately needed and most on here would have to agree imo
Lol, you think he put a gun to their head? They wanted to go, they went by choice.
Damien2812
Bencher
Manly is like the Tigers which is a basket case. We have been sacking coaches but the ownership has been the same when this happens since Penny took full control. This decision stinks and I'm not too happy. Hopefully DCE leaves since he has been the one constant since 2016.
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I'd say Mr Fluffy speaks and any others just nod.
Almost a relief as far as I'm concerned and that's regardless of those that do or don't want Des at the helm as the Manly coach.
The worst thing moving forward is uncertainty and at least now the road is clearer.
Obviously there are clouds to come with law suits ect, but this was always going to happen anyway.
I just want a coach, staff and playing group I can support in 2023 and we are 1 step closer to that as of today and to call it out, we havn't been setting the world on fire in recent times and that includes the start of 2022 when Tom was there, so I'm fine with a change up.
Will also add Des has had great moments as Manly coach and will always remember his Positive influence that were a big part of 2 great premiership victories and wish him all the Best.
The worst thing moving forward is uncertainty and at least now the road is clearer.
Obviously there are clouds to come with law suits ect, but this was always going to happen anyway.
I just want a coach, staff and playing group I can support in 2023 and we are 1 step closer to that as of today and to call it out, we havn't been setting the world on fire in recent times and that includes the start of 2022 when Tom was there, so I'm fine with a change up.
Will also add Des has had great moments as Manly coach and will always remember his Positive influence that were a big part of 2 great premiership victories and wish him all the Best.
2 years??? Mate he has no excuse not to get immediate results.
I don't mean win Round 1 and 2, Manly never does that. But why on earth shouldn't the side show immediate improvement next year? Isn't that why he was hired?
Oh. No of course not.
OK, I take your point.
eagleron
Bencher
Surely you don't make an announcement without having everything in place,..........wait on this is Manly, a thing called rainbowgate comes to mind, someone should give Siebold call
Bearfax
Grizzly old fart
Bad look Mr Penn. Of course we don't know what was going on behind the scenes, but the image of Hasler accepting the conditions you imposed and then sack him shows you were not playing with a straight deck and were trying to push him out all along and wanted him to apear responsible. Instead you have serious egg on your face and I suspect a lot of fans and perhaps players are not happy with you. I'm not saying whether the decision was correct or not. I'm just saying your image has been seriously tarnished. I cant see a lot of supporters wanting your continued ownership of the club.
Ron E. Gibbs
First Grader
What choice do we have, really?
I laughed my head off when the Bulldogs signed T-Baz as their coach. No doubt there are plenty of Broncos fans and others laughing their heads off at Manly for signing Seibold. I just hope it turns out better for us, although Penn's effusive praise of the Sei-bomb's footballing intellect is a giant red flag.
But almost everybody deserves a second chance, so good luck to him - he's definitely going to need it, even with the "premiership-winning team" he'll have at his disposal.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
He’s the smartest one there.
The messy situation has become untenable in recent weeks with Hasler threatening legal action against the club should his contract be torn up.
It took a dramatic turn on Wednesday with Hasler suddenly agreeing on contract clauses he had previously refused to budge on.
Less than 24 hours later, the club has swung the axe regardless.
Looks like Des tried to save himself last night.
I hope DCE goes also.
eagleron
Bencher
You would think that with immediate changes in our defensive structures there should be more success even if only marginal to begin with, blind Freddie would see that as the most urgent aspect of our game to rectify2 years??? Mate he has no excuse not to get immediate results.
I don't mean win Round 1 and 2, Manly never does that. But why on earth shouldn't the side show immediate improvement next year? Isn't that why he was hired?
Oh. No of course not.
OK, I take your point.
The Indian
Bencher
I think this had to be done. Once the decision is made why not be decisive and one of my biggest criticisms of Penn is that he is absent and makes very few big calls.
Is this the right call I don't know but it had become clear of late that it had to be made. Congrats for not letting it spill over into 2023....albeit Des and his lawyers may have something to say about that.
As for some sense of misguided loyalty to Des I'm not totally buying that. He showed in 2011 he was willing to make economic decisions or ones in his own best interests first and foremost. Good luck to him. That's his right. This situation is no different. having him under the new coaches nose was untenable.
Onwards and Upwards. Let's stop the in fighting.
Is this the right call I don't know but it had become clear of late that it had to be made. Congrats for not letting it spill over into 2023....albeit Des and his lawyers may have something to say about that.
As for some sense of misguided loyalty to Des I'm not totally buying that. He showed in 2011 he was willing to make economic decisions or ones in his own best interests first and foremost. Good luck to him. That's his right. This situation is no different. having him under the new coaches nose was untenable.
Onwards and Upwards. Let's stop the in fighting.
Bris_Eagle
Member
Maybe we will win round 1 next year, maybe we won't.
Eagle Eyed
Reserve Grader
This will be like George working for Kruger
pt73
Bencher
From the SMH article:
The decision to terminate Hasler was made after a board meeting on Thursday morning, with officials deciding the situation had become untenable. Sources with knowledge of the situation told the Herald that Manly powerbrokers felt they had just cause to terminate Hasler’s contract in the belief he had brought the club into disrepute.
Having received legal counsel on the issue, the Sea Eagles believe one of their options is not to pay out Hasler any of his entitlements under the terms of the contract, which wasn’t set to expire until the end of next season.
The payout to Hasler was already capped at about $450,000 should the club part end the deal early, which is about half of what the two-time premiership winner was entitled to had he completed his commitments.
However, the amount of a payout – if any – will most likely be decided after lawyers for both sides jockey for the best possible outcome.
The decision to terminate Hasler was made after a board meeting on Thursday morning, with officials deciding the situation had become untenable. Sources with knowledge of the situation told the Herald that Manly powerbrokers felt they had just cause to terminate Hasler’s contract in the belief he had brought the club into disrepute.
Having received legal counsel on the issue, the Sea Eagles believe one of their options is not to pay out Hasler any of his entitlements under the terms of the contract, which wasn’t set to expire until the end of next season.
The payout to Hasler was already capped at about $450,000 should the club part end the deal early, which is about half of what the two-time premiership winner was entitled to had he completed his commitments.
However, the amount of a payout – if any – will most likely be decided after lawyers for both sides jockey for the best possible outcome.
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