No wonder they are called the Rorters

[BOZO]

The more money you’ve got, the greater the means you have to hide your dodgy dealings.

Just on those few players mentioned in the original post: Crichton is a clear upgrade on Napa, and BOTH Morris and Hall are clear upgrades on Ferguson. Crichton especially was a guy being chased by plenty of clubs, and Souths were keen to keep him as well - but ding ding, just like always, Uncle Nick gets his man.

Just like Cronk was a very clear upgrade on Mitchell Pearce, and numerous other examples every year in the past, and they’ll keep coming as long as this corrupt system continues. Other teams are forced to shed players post-premiership, but the Rorters can just keep adding and upgrading, adding and upgrading - and we’re supposed to just go “nothing to see here, very well run club, tootle-pip old fruit”. My arse.

Here’s a tip: people who have a modicum of intelligence and the ability to spot when they’re being sold a dummy aren’t conspiracy theorists. Some of us just have better-calibrated bull**** detectors than yours - we can recognise when we’re being given the mushroom treatment (ie kept in the dark and fed ****).

Until we have a points cap, with each player’s points value determined by a transparent, independent tribunal process, the degradation of the game will continue just the way it’s going now - with some animals more equal than others. And eventually all the fans with an ounce of sense will have walked away completely, and it’ll just be the mushrooms left - which is probably what the NRL wants, TBH.

Some of us can recognize smart people that use the system well

 

[47MVEagle]

According to the reported 3rd party payments of each club in season 2018, the roosters only had ~$200k in TPAs LOL.

 

[Jethro]

According to the reported 3rd party payments of each club in season 2018, the roosters only had ~$200k in TPAs LOL.

I was thinking about bringing up their supposed TPA reported value seeing as though The Who didn't mention it in his originating post for this thread but you have saved me the trouble. 🙂

 

[The Who]

OK Bozo. Agreed, Easts are a well managed club. They have to be. They have no juniors and very little fan support. The Eastern Suburbs is certainly not a typical rugby league supporter base.
However, you imply they are under the salary cap so I'd like you to put your best guesstimate to the value of the following players. Easts have announced just 26 players for 2019, so there are still four positions to fill. Here are some of their players:
Crichton
Cordner
Liu
Friend
JWH
Aubusson
Teukeiaho
Radley
Tetevano
B Morris
Brock Lamb
Cronk
Taupo
Tedesco
Manu
Mitchell
Keary
Ryan Hall
I'd be very interested to see how you value these 18 players.

 

[mozgrame]

OK Bozo. Agreed, Easts are a well managed club. They have to be. They have no juniors and very little fan support. The Eastern Suburbs is certainly not a typical rugby league supporter base.
However, you imply they are under the salary cap so I'd like you to put your best guesstimate to the value of the following players. Easts have announced just 26 players for 2019, so there are still four positions to fill. Here are some of their players:
Crichton
Cordner
Liu
Friend
JWH
Aubusson
Teukeiaho
Radley
Tetevano
B Morris
Brock Lamb
Cronk
Taupo
Tedesco
Manu
Mitchell
Keary
Ryan Hall
I'd be very interested to see how you value these 18 players.

They're all sh!thouse!



(for the record...you're right!)

 

[mozgrame]

The knights haven't reached sombrero territory yet....but they've certainly upgraded from a cap to a ten gallon hat!

 

[Harvies elbow]

The more money you’ve got, the greater the means you have to hide your dodgy dealings.

Just on those few players mentioned in the original post: Crichton is a clear upgrade on Napa, and BOTH Morris and Hall are clear upgrades on Ferguson. Crichton especially was a guy being chased by plenty of clubs, and Souths were keen to keep him as well - but ding ding, just like always, Uncle Nick gets his man.

Just like Cronk was a very clear upgrade on Mitchell Pearce, and numerous other examples every year in the past, and they’ll keep coming as long as this corrupt system continues. Other teams are forced to shed players post-premiership, but the Rorters can just keep adding and upgrading, adding and upgrading - and we’re supposed to just go “nothing to see here, very well run club, tootle-pip old fruit”. My arse.

Here’s a tip: people who have a modicum of intelligence and the ability to spot when they’re being sold a dummy aren’t conspiracy theorists. Some of us just have better-calibrated bull**** detectors than yours - we can recognise when we’re being given the mushroom treatment (ie kept in the dark and fed ****).

Until we have a points cap, with each player’s points value determined by a transparent, independent tribunal process, the degradation of the game will continue just the way it’s going now - with some animals more equal than others. And eventually all the fans with an ounce of sense will have walked away completely, and it’ll just be the mushrooms left - which is probably what the NRL wants, TBH.

Ding ding ding all over.
Knockout punch.
Boom...

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

OK Bozo. Agreed, Easts are a well managed club. They have to be. They have no juniors and very little fan support. The Eastern Suburbs is certainly not a typical rugby league supporter base.
However, you imply they are under the salary cap so I'd like you to put your best guesstimate to the value of the following players. Easts have announced just 26 players for 2019, so there are still four positions to fill. Here are some of their players:
Crichton
Cordner
Liu
Friend
JWH
Aubusson
Teukeiaho
Radley
Tetevano
B Morris
Brock Lamb
Cronk
Taupo
Tedesco
Manu
Mitchell
Keary
Ryan Hall
I'd be very interested to see how you value these 18 players.

I’d suggest there’s about 10 million there , plus there’s another 12 players at say, $300k average , around 14 Million is my guess!

 

[wombatgc]

OK Bozo. Agreed, Easts are a well managed club. They have to be. They have no juniors and very little fan support. The Eastern Suburbs is certainly not a typical rugby league supporter base.
However, you imply they are under the salary cap so I'd like you to put your best guesstimate to the value of the following players. Easts have announced just 26 players for 2019, so there are still four positions to fill. Here are some of their players:
Crichton
Cordner
Liu
Friend
JWH
Aubusson
Teukeiaho
Radley
Tetevano
B Morris
Brock Lamb
Cronk
Taupo
Tedesco
Manu
Mitchell
Keary
Ryan Hall
I'd be very interested to see how you value these 18 players.

Looks pretty sweet from my angle @The Who .

 

[Kevinward777]

Interesting conspiracy feathered friend . It should make the top 100.
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Well... surely, I can’t be the only person on here who believes that the six “moon landings” are ABSOLUTE rubbish... like they somehow managed to get through the Van Allen Belt with 50 year old technology, but can’t achieve anything more than low earth orbit in 2018... completely ridiculous. NASA explain this away by claiming that they lost the technology required to go back to the moon... aaaaaand that it would be a real pain in the arse to get it back...

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Crichton 750
Cordner 750
Liu 550
Friend 650
JWH 650
Aubusson 320
Teukeiaho 350
Radley 350
Tetevano 200
B Morris 200
Brock Lamb 180
Cronk 800
Taupo 380
Tedesco 850
Manu 300
Mitchell 500
Keary 650
Ryan Hall 350
I'd be very interested to see how you value these 18 players.

My guess would be something like this ... which adds up to about 7.73 mil
That's a guess as to their current deals. But as to what you mean by 'value', if they went on the open market most would attract bigger offers than this.
However some players such as Radley Manu and Mitchell might even currently be on less than this, as they have had break-out years. Their next contracts will be worth far more.
All guesswork of course.

 

[Cameron]

I'd say toddy boy must play golf with uncle nick...it's the only reasonable explanation

I think it maybe blowjobs 😛 not golf

 

[manlyfan76]

I think it maybe blowjobs 😛 not golf

You think about that a lot, dont you....................

 

[mickqld]

It's no advantage to the Nrl to have the Rorters successful. In fact it's the opposite , they have such little public support. You'd think the nrl would want the worms or tigpies due to crowd support. I agree however that slime Greensprog would be in uncle Nick's pocket someway. It will be another poor season if them and the drizzle continue to dominate the competition.

 

[mozgrame]

Well... surely, I can’t be the only person on here who believes that the six “moon landings” are ABSOLUTE rubbish... like they somehow managed to get through the Van Allen Belt with 50 year old technology, but can’t achieve anything more than low earth orbit in 2018... completely ridiculous. NASA explain this away by claiming that they lost the technology required to go back to the moon... aaaaaand that it would be a real pain in the arse to get it back...

Why would it be a pain in the arse? Don't the aliens that genetically modified our dna and shared advanced technologies with nazi scientists want to help us anymore?? lol

Science! Lets venture off on a slightly related tangent....

It's funny that back in that time period I reffered to (the 40's), some physicists were saying that they believed we live in a computer generated universe (computers in the '40's???? Yes the germans strike again lol...Konrad Zuse invented the first computer in '36-'38, the Z1. Not the best, but the Z3 in '41 was a ripper!). And now days we have theoretical physicists like James Gates using adinkras to find evidence that suggests the universe is a massive hologram.

So what? Well think about it a little bit.....what could the link be between computer software and reallity? A computer uses binary codes, ones and zeros....on and off. With correct combinations, they can create what you desire, be that on your computer screen or a three demensional object. You don't see 1's and 0's because your computers CPU processes the binary code as colours and shapes pretty much instantaneously, and there are no limits to the combinations!!

Now....what if we think of our subconscious mind as a computers CPU? What ever instructions you give it is taken in without judgement or consideration and our reality is created from there. If you boil it right down.....the material world we live in is made up of energy (light flashes that flash on and off to create energy codes) So reality and computers are pretty similar in my mind in the way they both function.

But how could we possibly know if we exist in a giant computer program?? Simple....look for evidence of existing codes in the laws of physics. That's what James Gates has done. In the equations of supersymmetry he has found doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block codes. These are codes that are commonly used to remove errors in computer transmissions. This unexpected discovery suggests that these codes are likely omnipresent throughout nature and therefore....our perception of reality.

So what? What does it mean to say we live in a universe that appears to have been designed by quantum computer? Well....it points to an intelligent creator.That's why so many (and there are a very large number now days...and that number is growing due to their scientific studies) physicists believe in God. The simple minded trust nothing more than their own "intelligence". They won't even enlighten themselves to what is going on in the scientific world they claim to have faith in....

Anywho......

What's so good about the moon anyway....apart from mining...which, judging from all the open cut scarring that we call "craters", has been exhausted. Mars, baby! That's where it's at now!! MARS!

Slow day. I love cooking silvertails style....

 

[manlyfan76]

Why would it be a pain in the arse? Don't the aliens that genetically modified our dna and shared advanced technologies with nazi scientists want to help us anymore?? lol

Science! Lets venture off on a slightly related tangent....

It's funny that back in that time period I reffered to (the 40's), some physicists were saying that they believed we live in a computer generated universe (computers in the '40's???? Yes the germans strike again lol...Konrad Zuse invented the first computer in '36-'38, the Z1. Not the best, but the Z3 in '41 was a ripper!). And now days we have theoretical physicists like James Gates using adinkras to find evidence that suggests the universe is a massive hologram.

So what? Well think about it a little bit.....what could the link be between computer software and reallity? A computer uses binary codes, ones and zeros....on and off. With correct combinations, they can create what you desire, be that on your computer screen or a three demensional object. You don't see 1's and 0's because your computers CPU processes the binary code as colours and shapes pretty much instantaneously, and there are no limits to the combinations!!

Now....what if we think of our subconscious mind as a computers CPU? What ever instructions you give it is taken in without judgement or consideration and our reality is created from there. If you boil it right down.....the material world we live in is made up of energy (light flashes that flash on and off to create energy codes) So reality and computers are pretty similar in my mind in the way they both function.

But how could we possibly know if we exist in a giant computer program?? Simple....look for evidence of existing codes in the laws of physics. That's what James Gates has done. In the equations of supersymmetry he has found doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block codes. These are codes that are commonly used to remove errors in computer transmissions. This unexpected discovery suggests that these codes are likely omnipresent throughout nature and therefore....our perception of reality.

So what? What does it mean to say we live in a universe that appears to have been designed by quantum computer? Well....it points to an intelligent creator.That's why so many (and there are a very large number now days...and that number is growing due to their scientific studies) physicists believe in God. The simple minded trust nothing more than their own "intelligence". They won't even enlighten themselves to what is going on in the scientific world they claim to have faith in....

Anywho......

What's so good about the moon anyway....apart from mining...which, judging from all the open cut scarring that we call "craters", has been exhausted. Mars, baby! That's where it's at now!! MARS!

Slow day. I love cooking silvertails style....

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Binary I think goes a lot further than that.
Think Yin and Yang - the female and male, light and dark, hot cold, as it is above so it is below, and on it goes.
A possible counterpoint may be that if you search for an answer using math, you end up with math being the answer, which you could extrapolate out to religion, philosophy, natural selection etc.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Why would it be a pain in the arse? Don't the aliens that genetically modified our dna and shared advanced technologies with nazi scientists want to help us anymore?? lol

Science! Lets venture off on a slightly related tangent....

It's funny that back in that time period I reffered to (the 40's), some physicists were saying that they believed we live in a computer generated universe (computers in the '40's???? Yes the germans strike again lol...Konrad Zuse invented the first computer in '36-'38, the Z1. Not the best, but the Z3 in '41 was a ripper!). And now days we have theoretical physicists like James Gates using adinkras to find evidence that suggests the universe is a massive hologram.

So what? Well think about it a little bit.....what could the link be between computer software and reallity? A computer uses binary codes, ones and zeros....on and off. With correct combinations, they can create what you desire, be that on your computer screen or a three demensional object. You don't see 1's and 0's because your computers CPU processes the binary code as colours and shapes pretty much instantaneously, and there are no limits to the combinations!!

Now....what if we think of our subconscious mind as a computers CPU? What ever instructions you give it is taken in without judgement or consideration and our reality is created from there. If you boil it right down.....the material world we live in is made up of energy (light flashes that flash on and off to create energy codes) So reality and computers are pretty similar in my mind in the way they both function.

But how could we possibly know if we exist in a giant computer program?? Simple....look for evidence of existing codes in the laws of physics. That's what James Gates has done. In the equations of supersymmetry he has found doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block codes. These are codes that are commonly used to remove errors in computer transmissions. This unexpected discovery suggests that these codes are likely omnipresent throughout nature and therefore....our perception of reality.

So what? What does it mean to say we live in a universe that appears to have been designed by quantum computer? Well....it points to an intelligent creator.That's why so many (and there are a very large number now days...and that number is growing due to their scientific studies) physicists believe in God. The simple minded trust nothing more than their own "intelligence". They won't even enlighten themselves to what is going on in the scientific world they claim to have faith in....

Anywho......

What's so good about the moon anyway....apart from mining...which, judging from all the open cut scarring that we call "craters", has been exhausted. Mars, baby! That's where it's at now!! MARS!

Slow day. I love cooking silvertails style....

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This style of navel-gazing is commonly associated with white men of overly comfortable station in life (see R Descartes)
I suggest anyone bleeding, or hungry, or in jail, or who has a loaded gun pointed at them ... has a far better grasp of reality, and little time for the idea that the universe is a massive hologram.

 

[Class of 96]

Y’all been watching too much of The Good Place. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[Brissie Kid]

Bionic Manly.

 

[mozgrame]

Binary I think goes a lot further than that.
Think Yin and Yang - the female and male, light and dark, hot cold, as it is above so it is below, and on it goes.
A possible counterpoint may be that if you search for an answer using math, you end up with math being the answer, which you could extrapolate out to religion, philosophy, natural selection etc.

I agree that math is powerful. Have you ever looked into quantum electrodynamics? So, the question is....did we discover or invent math?? Sure, we "invented" certain mathmatical concepts like lines, shapes, numbers etc from observing nature....but we have since gone on to use these concepts to "discover" mathmatical equations and are usually surprised by our finds. Bernhard Riemann talked about the different (new) geometries you'd find in curved surfaces in the 1850's...then Einstein came up with the theory of general relativity in 1915 using Riemann's tools. Amazing!

So if these mathmatical laws already exist...who created them?