New Coaching Team

Some text from the aforementioned link (article):

Daley, who has also been linked to a role with the Sea Eagles, interjected with: “I can’t believe he keeps missing out.”

Rothfield agreed, saying: “I can’t work it out either, I really can’t.”

But believes it likely has something to do with the dramas at the Sharks.

“I think he’s being judged on the really disappointing things — let’s be upfront here, the peptides at Cronulla,” Rothfield said.

Daley interjected again: “But that was ages ago.”

“But it was very, very serious,” Rothfield responded.

“Then he was sprung while he was off suspended, there was a salary cap scandal and he had no role in that salary cap scandal but he was sprung sending emails while he was supposed to be suspended.

“I totally agree with you, it is time to judge Shane Flanagan on his coaching ability and not what mistakes he made — which I’m sure he’s learnt from.

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These are direct quotes from an on-air exchange between Laurie Daley and Phil Rothfield on radio earlier this morning.

For the people at the Club who read this forum AND the multitude of journalists as well, IF anyone believes that Shane Flanagan deserves a "second" chance, he has already blown that "second chance" by going against the conditions of his suspension during the salary cap scandal (he did not send one or five emails, the NRL Integrity Unit found that he sent more than fifty emails).

It is all about Shane, it was always about Shane and it is all about winning, his way, at any cost.

This is the opening paragraph on Page 9 of the ACC report titled "Organised Crime and Drugs in Sport" published February 2013.

"Some coaches, sports scientists and support staff of elite athletes have orchestrated and/ or condoned the use of prohibited substances and/or methods of administration."

He, Shane Flanagan was found to be "a coach" who condoned the use of prohibited substances, a man who three days after informing the club officials at Cronulla that they have nothing to worry about as Dank was not involved with any players and had no contact with "them" during his tenure in 2011, retracted that claim and then informed the Club that he stopped the practices after a few weeks once he realised Dank was injecting players.

The last paragraph of the excerpt above is one that irks me the most; I am judging him on HIS COACHING ABILITY, and that "ability" is well documented in the peptide debacle along with his INABILITY to refrain from contacting the Club and person associated with Cronulla, yet he did so and we are all meant to "move on", well I for one, will not "move on".

For goodness sake, he, along with Trent Elkin and others "....orchestrated and/or condoned the use of. prohibited substances..." at the Cronulla Sharks in 2011, some older players at the time participated along with some young, impressionable men who did as they were told; are we seriously entertaining the thought of employing him?

Why....can someone please explain this to me as it would appear that his "coaching ability" certainly benefited from some rather nefarious activities and conduct, culminating in winning a premiership, which if we are all true to ourselves, whenever it is mentioned we do so with a wry smile.

Leave him at St George.
The club will probably also sign Bronson Xerri next
 
OWNER: Scott Penn
CEO: Tony Mestrov
CCO: Craig Meagher
Pathways / Recruitment: Laurie Dailey
Head Coach: Anthony Siebold
Assistant Coach: Shane Flannagan
Assistant Coach: Jim Dymock
Consultant: Eddie Jones
Strength / conditioning: TBC
Recruitment: Above / Scott & Kristie Fulton
Media: Wayne Cousins

Are people getting some confidence yet ? One thing is each and every new employee will be committed and have desire.
 
OWNER: Scott Penn
CEO: Tony Mestrov
CCO: Craig Meagher
Pathways / Recruitment: Laurie Dailey
Head Coach: Anthony Siebold
Assistant Coach: Shane Flannagan
Assistant Coach: Jim Dymock
Consultant: Eddie Jones
Strength / conditioning: TBC
Recruitment: Above / Scott & Kristie Fulton
Media: Wayne Cousins

Are people getting some confidence yet ? One thing is each and every new employee will be committed and have desire.
I'm trying to be confident but I'm concerned that we're trying to get a Traveling Willburys like group together but we'll end up with The Power Station (apologies to any Power Station fans)
 
Whatever coaching team we end up with I just want to see them take charge, lay down the law on the players and take no excuses. You fu*k up you're dropped. No comfort zones , no camp fire kumbya hands in a circle bullsh*t. Make them mean, lean and hungry to win. Wipe the floor with the opposition and show no mercy. Get some steel and concrete back into this flacid bean bag forward pack for starters.
 
OWNER: Scott Penn
CEO: Tony Mestrov
CCO: Craig Meagher
Pathways / Recruitment: Laurie Dailey
Head Coach: Anthony Siebold
Assistant Coach: Shane Flannagan
Assistant Coach: Jim Dymock
Consultant: Eddie Jones
Strength / conditioning: TBC
Recruitment: Above / Scott & Kristie Fulton
Media: Wayne Cousins

Are people getting some confidence yet ? One thing is each and every new employee will be committed and have desire.
While I am excited to see where we will head in 2023 I can't help feel hughly worried at same time.

OWNER: Scott Penn - completely out of touch
CEO: Tony Mestrov - hatchet man for the owner
CCO: Craig Meagher - no comment
Pathways / Recruitment: Laurie Dailey - failed coach
Head Coach: Anthony Siebold - failed coach
Assistant Coach: Shane Flannagan - proven cheat on multiple occasions.
Assistant Coach: Jim Dymock - meh
Consultant: Eddie Jones - very prickly customer
Strength / conditioning: TBC - important who?
Recruitment: Above / Scott & Kristie Fulton - western Sydney architects???
Media: Wayne Cousins - meh.....
 
Some text from the aforementioned link (article):

Daley, who has also been linked to a role with the Sea Eagles, interjected with: “I can’t believe he keeps missing out.”

Rothfield agreed, saying: “I can’t work it out either, I really can’t.”

But believes it likely has something to do with the dramas at the Sharks.

“I think he’s being judged on the really disappointing things — let’s be upfront here, the peptides at Cronulla,” Rothfield said.

Daley interjected again: “But that was ages ago.”

“But it was very, very serious,” Rothfield responded.

“Then he was sprung while he was off suspended, there was a salary cap scandal and he had no role in that salary cap scandal but he was sprung sending emails while he was supposed to be suspended.

“I totally agree with you, it is time to judge Shane Flanagan on his coaching ability and not what mistakes he made — which I’m sure he’s learnt from.

*******

These are direct quotes from an on-air exchange between Laurie Daley and Phil Rothfield on radio earlier this morning.

For the people at the Club who read this forum AND the multitude of journalists as well, IF anyone believes that Shane Flanagan deserves a "second" chance, he has already blown that "second chance" by going against the conditions of his suspension during the salary cap scandal (he did not send one or five emails, the NRL Integrity Unit found that he sent more than fifty emails).

It is all about Shane, it was always about Shane and it is all about winning, his way, at any cost.

This is the opening paragraph on Page 9 of the ACC report titled "Organised Crime and Drugs in Sport" published February 2013.

"Some coaches, sports scientists and support staff of elite athletes have orchestrated and/ or condoned the use of prohibited substances and/or methods of administration."

He, Shane Flanagan was found to be "a coach" who condoned the use of prohibited substances, a man who three days after informing the club officials at Cronulla that they have nothing to worry about as Dank was not involved with any players and had no contact with "them" during his tenure in 2011, retracted that claim and then informed the Club that he stopped the practices after a few weeks once he realised Dank was injecting players.

The last paragraph of the excerpt above is one that irks me the most; I am judging him on HIS COACHING ABILITY, and that "ability" is well documented in the peptide debacle along with his INABILITY to refrain from contacting the Club and person associated with Cronulla, yet he did so and we are all meant to "move on", well I for one, will not "move on".

For goodness sake, he, along with Trent Elkin and others "....orchestrated and/or condoned the use of. prohibited substances..." at the Cronulla Sharks in 2011, some older players at the time participated along with some young, impressionable men who did as they were told; are we seriously entertaining the thought of employing him?

Why....can someone please explain this to me as it would appear that his "coaching ability" certainly benefited from some rather nefarious activities and conduct, culminating in winning a premiership, which if we are all true to ourselves, whenever it is mentioned we do so with a wry smile.

Leave him at St George.
That is some first class fact checking formatted research there @AndWeDon'tCare . Fully agree. Steer clear.
 
OWNER: Scott Penn
CEO: Tony Mestrov
CCO: Craig Meagher
Pathways / Recruitment: Laurie Dailey
Head Coach: Anthony Siebold
Assistant Coach: Shane Flannagan
Assistant Coach: Jim Dymock
Consultant: Eddie Jones
Strength / conditioning: TBC
Recruitment: Above / Scott & Kristie Fulton
Media: Wayne Cousins

Are people getting some confidence yet ? One thing is each and every new employee will be committed and have desire.
Not at all. None of those names (with the possible exception of Eddie Jones, who is very unlikely to come anywhere near Manly) inspires me with anything other than feelings of dread and foreboding. And even if they really all were the best of the best instead of the dregs and leftovers from the Last Chance Saloon, how do we know how they might work together?

The only thing that will give me any hope or confidence is if we manage to start winning. Until that happens, I think we're all entitled to remain sceptical.
 
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