Manly Match-Fixing Investigation

[Mark from Brisbane]

Id be happy with the Logan Eagles ( now I'm sort of in that area).

Jest we may but our owners may well toss the towel in if the going gets tough, and then we are an NRL funded club at the mercy of Toggy Greenlime.

 

[niccipops]

I long for the heady days of last week when our biggest worries were that our team just simply sucked.

 

[Little Grubber Kick]

I long for the heady days of last week when our biggest worries were that our team just simply sucked.

If indeed there was any match fixing it's the sheer stupidity of its execution that should be punished as much as anything.

For goodness sakes they could have been just a little clever and maybe dodgied the draw or made up a pile of grey area rules or influenced the referees in training or created some crazy video refereeing system......oh wait! 😉

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

I long for the heady days of last week when our biggest worries were that our team just simply sucked.

Aah yes...the good old days. Last week. I remember it well.

 

[niccipops]

If indeed there was any match fixing it's the sheer stupidity of its execution that should be punished as much as anything.

For goodness sakes they could have been just a little clever and maybe dodgied the draw or made up a pile of grey area rules or influenced the referees in training or created some crazy video refereeing system......oh wait! 😉

Match fixing to lose brings the game into disrepute - 100% agree.
But competition fixing with favourable draws and scheduling - all good???

 

[Shoe1]

Home again already

Ps congratulations

 

[Budgie]

Ps congratulations

Thanks Shoe. That's really lovely of you. It was wonderful!

 

[killerspud]

WTF is going on??
This is just another attempt by the nrl and the telecrap to bring us down!
When are the squeels losing points? Tell us that Toddy.....hmm u fcker!!!

 

[Go manly]

You just like him 'cos he's good in bed

Because she was a good sort thought it might have been
Munchy munchy twisties and open up your .......

 

[Brissie Kid]

So annoying this brouhaha is keeping the federal election low key.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

I long for the heady days of last week when our biggest worries were that our team just simply sucked.

Just classic stuff

 

[globaleagle]

Thanks Shoe. That's really lovely of you. It was wonderful!

Hey yeah, that's right!

Congratulations and I hope it was totally awesome (I know you said wonderful but I'm upping the ante.)

Now you can let yourself go and scratch and fart in each other's company!

congrats!

🙂


(sorry for sidetrack noobs)

 

[Budgie]

Hey yeah, that's right!

Congratulations and I hope it was totally awesome (I know you said wonderful but I'm upping the ante.)

Now you can let yourself go and scratch and fart in each other's company!

congrats!

🙂


(sorry for sidetrack noobs)

Thanks GE!
Ah, the freedom!!

 

[HappilyManly]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...etection-of-massive-bets-20160607-gpdqj6.html

NRL: Punters using overseas bookmakers to avoid detection of massive bets
Date
June 7, 2016 - 9:30PM

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Chris Barrett and Kate McClymont

Police suspect that Australian punters making huge bets on NRL games place them with offshore betting companies that are not regulated so as to avoid detection.

Corporate bookmakers licensed in Australia and Tabcorp have not reported any unusual betting trends associated with two games during last season's premiership that are at the centre of NSW Police enquiries into allegations of match-fixing.

But authorities are interested in the volume of money being wagered with overseas operators outside the boundaries of Australian betting regulations, particularly because of their tendency to provide larger limits for big-time punters.

In the current matter police are investigating, there is particular interest in the sharp fluctuations of the market at a major outlet licensed in the Caribbean on one of the matches last season that is being looked at by detectives.

Police are aware that the odds offered by the online betting giant Pinnacle on South Sydney defeating Manly by more than eight points in round 16, 2015 dropped from $1.93 to $1.74 in the two days from when the market opened to kick-off.

Pinnacle, a global sportsbook licensed on the island of Curaçao and in Malta, takes more money on sport in Australia than any other betting outlet, according to an industry source.

"I don't care what anyone says," the source said. "They are the biggest bookmaker on Australian sport. They obviously have their limits but you can always get a bet on there."

Another leading figure among Australian bookmakers said: "Some of the figures that I've heard connected with Pinnacle in the Caribbean are quite staggering. Rumours of individual bets of five figures on both AFL and NRL matches."

That source said Pinnacle's markets were known to change significantly in the lead-up to NRL and AFL matches, creating a domino effect on the local marketplace.

The advantage that Pinnacle – and the 60 or so other bookmakers around the world that also take bets on rugby league – have is they do not have to pay a product fee to the NRL as do the 21 corporates licensed in Australia who have integrity agreements with the governing body.

A site called Pinnaclebet Sports, which is operated out of Bondi Junction, shares the same name with the Carribean outfit and a similar interface and boasts on its website that "no one offers higher limits".

Corporate records show that prominent gamblers Steve Fletcher and Darren Azzopardi are shareholders in the local Pinnaclebet entity. The two men are facing potential criminal charges over their gambling activities after a Police Integrity Commission inquiry found that Fletcher and Azzopardi engaged in fraud when they used the identities of a string of police officers to hide the gambling activities with a number of betting agencies. Both men had been barred from the betting agencies.

Nick O'Connell, a director of Pinnaclebet, said there was no affiliation between the Australian company and Pinnacle itself beyond their purchase of the offshore operator's data and use of their odds.

Despite the site boasting to be "The Best Online Sports Betting Site", he said Pinnaclebet did not hold any money. "We're basically a payment portal and we forward bets to other operators. For the rugby league we send most of our bets to Top Sport, which is an Australian bookie, and we bet through another couple of places," O'Connell said.

"We get data feeds from four or five different sources. All we do is basically connect punter with bookmaker, but we have approval from the NRL to do so."

But according to the NRL, Pinnaclebet is not an approved betting provider and Fairfax Media was told the league has taken steps to ensure it is not promoting itself as an approved provider by using the code's logo on its site. Top Sport is also not an approved betting provider for the NRL.

There is no suggestion that Pinnaclebet or Top Sport have been involved in anything untoward.

Fletcher gained notoriety in 2006 when he and former brothel-owning gambling identity Eddie Hayson won a fortune on a Newcastle game against the Warriors using inside information that star player Andrew Johns was injured.

O'Connell said Fletcher was only involved in Pinnaclebet, the marketing arm of the business, not the wagering division which is known as Worldwide Wagering and is licensed in Norfolk Island. Pinnaclebet, Worldwide Wagering and a related company The Odds Broker are all run out of the same Bondi Junction office.

While offshore bookmakers operate outside the boundaries of Australian betting regulations, police and sporting bodies such as the NRL have arrangements with a British-based firm called Sportradar which has an office in Sydney and monitors odds movements across 450 operators worldwide.

"When we spot irregular movements at any operator or operators, our fraud detection system generates real-time alerts which are then sent through to our teams of expert analysts," a Sportradar spokesman said.

"Those analysts then take up to 72 hours to go through a thorough exercise to contextualise those alerts, ie understand what caused them and whether there is a legitimate reason. If, after this exercise, that draws on over a decade of experience, we can find no legitimate reasons for the alerts, we generate an FDS report, which is then sent through to our partners, whether those are sports federations or law enforcement agencies."



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[midsteyne]

SUNSHINE COAST SEA EAGLES,then I could get to home games

 

[midsteyne]

simple fix on NRL betting,BAN IT TOTALLY

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

This may be the case but there's still a money trail.

I used international currency transfer on an almost daily basis in my old business and records through my books, AUD bank accounts and the FX service I used would show every cent I transferred overseas.

So maybe not a record at the TAB, but there's a record of cash flowing in and out.

 

[nightster]

.... the bottom line is betting corrupts sport!!! ban betting on sport ....

 

[niccipops]

Well, waking up and fearing another terrible headline, I can now go to work happy as Manly hasn't been linked to ISIS overnight.

 

[Rex]

simple fix on NRL betting,BAN IT TOTALLY

Not a simple exercise banning it, with betting going offshore via the internet. But tough jobs can be more interesting than the simple ones. Banning it, and stopping the active promotion of betting like we've done with smoking might be a couple of starting points.

Rationally, betting makes no sense at all. It's blatantly obvious the odds are stacked against us, that it can corrupt and kill the sport we love, and can be addictively damaging to those we care about. But who said people are in any way rational?