[Resurrected] Lol @ Parra

[MadMarcus]

You might remember the arguments the Bulldogs and Storm put forward about cheating the cap "to keep the boys together". While that argument doesn't wash, it does distinguish what those clubs did from what the Eels have done. It makes what the Eels did worse.

I don't know why somebody doesn't just come out and say it - The Eels cheated the cap so they could rape and pillage Manly.

Just look at the players who went to Parra for ridiculous overs during their cheating era (and I may well have missed some)

Hopoate, Lussick, Harrison, Gower, Hasson, Watmough. Foran, Gutherson...

That's more than half a starting side. Yet nobody in the media has made this connection...

 

[Simonmyers11]

Anthony Watmough confirms he will retire as Parramatta finalise salary cap plan

Date May 5, 2016 - 7:04PM

Chris Barrett
Sports Writer

Parramatta hope to convince the NRL that they should only have to trim as little as $150,000 from their salary cap this year in order to be playing for points against South Sydney next Friday, a figure that would comfortably be achieved with the retirement of Anthony Watmough.

The Eels on Thursday submitted an application to League Central requesting that Watmough be declared to have a career-ending injury and thus removed from the cap. Hours later the veteran back-rower confirmed he was prepared to retire to do "the right thing by the club".

The club is still facing a race against time to be cap compliant for round 10, however, as the NRL awaits the outcome of action taken by five officials implicated in their breach notice in the Supreme Court on Friday before Brad Arthur's team can be given the green light to be competitive.

The Eels were told on Tuesday they must strip $570,000 from their top-25 roster in order to play for points next Friday and begin an ambitious quest to win 12 from their remaining 15 games and reach the semi-finals.

Parramatta's internal point man on fixing their cap dilemma - former NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert - has produced a plan to take to headquarters.

Fairfax Media has been told by sources at the Eels that they were under the cap by $200,000 as of last month. Schubert's latest sums, which include the exit of Ryan Morgan to Melbourne and third-party deals they've subsequently been breached for, are understood to have them in a best-case scenario having to shed about $150,000 from their roster.

The retirement of Watmough would easily cover that, particularly if the NRL agreed to backdate his career-ending injury and remove his full $700,000 contract from this year's figures.

"I've got no doubt in my mind what I have to do if it comes to that, and if it comes to that I've got no hesitation in doing the right thing by the club," Watmough told Channel Nine on Thursday night.

The Eels believe there are some anomalies in the way the NRL has calculated their cap position including some entries being double counted and are looking to work through them with salary cap auditor Jamie L'Oste Brown.

The NRL indicated on Thursday their cap blowout could be revised during the preliminary breach notice period based on discussions with L'Oste Brown, with a similar development occurring last year when a $525,000 fine for other cap excesses was later reduced to $465,000.

With Watmough's retirement appearing to be the problem solver the principal stumbling block for the Parramatta players remains the legal action taken by chairman Steve Sharp, directors Tom Issa and Peter Serrao, chief executive John Boulous and football operations manager Daniel Anderson against the NRL. The five are back in court on Friday after being granted an injunction against suspensions that were handed to them as they were asked to show cause why they should not be deregistered.

Another Eels director, Parramatta Lord Mayor Paul Garrard, said on Thursday the club would be "disputing a lot of what is in the breach notice" and maintained they were under the cap for this season.

"I support the documentation put forward by Ian Schubert and there clearly needs to be some interpretation of the breach notice in terms of the figures they've presented," Garrard said.

"They haven't given us any metrics of what they are, where they come from. It wasn't in the breach notice where they got the figures from."

Garrard was confident, however, that Arthur's team would be playing for points against Souths.

"A dialogue will be created between the NRL [and the club], and it will need to happen smartly, to enable the Anthony Watmough issue and the salary cap issue to be addressed prior to tomorrow week and to get that team on the field," he said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/anthony-watmough-confirms-he-will-retire-as-parramatta-finalise-salary-cap-plan-20160505-gong2h.html#ixzz47nCp6UJv
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Choc was going to retire before this all blew up anyway! He was still officially on the books for this year, dont know how those retards can say that they have been under the cap for 2016. More liars

 

[Simonmyers11]

Former Eels boss Scott Seward asked NRL CEO Todd Greenberg for advice on third party agreements
Date May 5, 2016 - 10:00PM
Michael Chammas and Chris Barrett

Former Parramatta Eels chief executive Scott Seward approached NRL CEO Todd Greenberg for advice on third-party agreements, recordings from a Parramatta board meeting in 2013 reveal.

Fairfax Media has obtained the transcript provided in the breach notice the NRL handed to Parramatta on Tuesday which mentioned Greenberg, however the NRL boss has denied providing any advice that contravened NRL rules in regards to third-party payments.

The transcript also identifies plans from football manager Daniel Anderson, in which he talks about lowering player salaries and replacing them with third-party agreements as to clear space in the salary cap.

Fairfax Media can also reveal Seward contacted Greenberg last month, asking for advice on whether he should agree to be interviewed by the NRL to assist their salary cap investigation into Parramatta.

Seward, who is a close friend of Greenberg from their time together at the Bulldogs, admitted in the December, 2013 board meeting to have sought feedback from Greenberg about the way Canterbury handled third-party agreements during his tenure as club chief executive.

Eels club officials discussed the need to implement third-party agreements at the January board meeting, with Seward referencing his conversation with the now NRL boss, who was listed as Seward's referee when he applied for his job at Parramatta.

"We do need, and what we'll do, is we'll actually sit down and go through TPAs as a whole," Seward said in the meeting.

"There's a few different options. I've spoken to Greenberg about the way that Canterbury, and the best options. I've spoken to [Wayne] Beavis to tell us how f--ked we are, um, and the like.

"But it is a case of sitting down and working out the best way we can do it. Because right now we are batting this game with one arm tied behind our back. The Roosters have probably got $1.5 million in TPA, and that's fair, that's the game. That's the way it is."

A spokesman for the NRL said any advice Greenberg provided to Seward on third-party agreements was in accordance with the rules.

There was great conjecture last month when Seward met with the NRL to give his version of events, with Parramatta asked to waive a non-disclosure agreement to allow their former CEO to testify against the club.

Seward was torn about whether he should tip the bucket on his former colleagues and went to Greenberg for advice.

An NRL spokesman confirmed the exchange, saying: "Mr Greenberg advised Mr Seward by text to have an open and honest discussion with the head of the integrity unit, Nick Weeks, and to provide any evidence he had."

The Eels were desperate to save money on their salary cap and devised a plan, which was in breach of the NRL's rules, to reduce the salary of certain players and replace them with third party agreements.

Such a ploy would free space on the salary cap, however the NRL picked up on the conversation during their thorough investigation.

"Yeah we can make the contract variation, cause we've got until March 1," Anderson said in the meeting.

"So we can find one in February, make a contract variation to a player's contract, take it off their salary, give it to them in a TPA, and the salary cap value comes down."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/former-eels-boss-scott-seward-asked-nrl-ceo-todd-greenberg-for-advice-on-third-party-agreements-20160505-goneie.html#ixzz47nIzVLxW
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That is unbelievable! Cant believe they are still trying to fight it and deny it. Was all recorded as well! Can also see why parra fans want audits on other clubs, it wouldn't surprise me the roosters had 1.5 million in TPA during 2013,2014,2015.

These TPA's need to be capped and fully disclosed. Brisbane would be another and dogs able to fit so many big name players under the cap with these TPAs

 

[tookey]

Kent reckons that 15 CEOs are miffed at the leniency 😡

And that inclues parra's.

You might remember the arguments the Bulldogs and Storm put forward about cheating the cap "to keep the boys together". While that argument doesn't wash, it does distinguish what those clubs did from what the Eels have done. It makes what the Eels did worse.

I don't know why somebody doesn't just come out and say it - The Eels cheated the cap so they could rape and pillage Manly.

Just look at the players who went to Parra for ridiculous overs during their cheating era (and I may well have missed some)

Hopoate, Lussick, Harrison, Gower, Hasson, Watmough. Foran, Gutherson...

That's more than half a starting side. Yet nobody in the media has made this connection...

Where is our media manager to write a story on this?

 

[Budgie]

The NRL is broken.

 

[KeithSheldon]

So the point is this knee injury of Anthony Watmough's is supposed to be new, and couldn't of occurred before he signed with Parramatta for his retirement to be valid right? Well why is this article written in early 2015 saying Watmough had a knee injury that affected his movement? Weird, almost like he got a knee injury before he went to Parra, and is now retiring from a knee injury, which is obviously different to the knee injury he had with us. Obviously.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...e/news-story/cf9542897c50debc13d54ba786d2e00d

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

I read it differently. This was a board level thing they have been forced out of work for their fraud which is great.

They also know there is no way they will get under the cap and comply with everything else by round 10 so they will keep losing points. Their season is over

What is wrong is that they were able to pick up Jennings when still over the cap that is the sort of stuff that really was wrong

Agree. As much as we like to make fun of Greenberg, I think he has handled this in a deft manner. It looks like a soft set of penalties and when compared to the black and white approach Gallop adopted, maybe it is.
However there is a touch of Machiavelli here. Todd has given Parramatta enough rope to either collectively hang themselves or get their act together asap, so they can still compete this year.
However as the legal actions of the targeted board members would indicate, they will not go without a fight. The longer that goes on, the fewer rounds Parramatta have available to them to accrue points. That’s regardless of whether they are (miraculously) under the cap by the next competition round - if Watmough’s retirement is authorised etc.
So Greenberg looks like a smart strategist, who gave Parramatta a chance, but their own boneheaded approach brings them down anyway.
Clever!

 

[HappilyManly]

#BREAKING: #NRL rules Parramatta Eels can play for premiership points despite club's legal battle: https://t.co/Bmf9CmTbjS

 

[globaleagle]

The NRL is broken.

I posted this pic in another thread....even the nrl would have trouble making this decision!!

 

[Crusher_Cleal]

HOLD ON - now the NRL has come out today saying the Eels can still accumulate premiership points WITH the 5 Directors/Club officials still at the club?? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??!!

 

[JenEagle]

it would be funny if Steve Sharp and Co were still at the Eels next year and beyond. The Eels will never win anything while those guys are involved.

 

[HappilyManly]

HOLD ON - now the NRL has come out today saying the Eels can still accumulate premiership points WITH the 5 Directors/Club officials still at the club?? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??!!

Probably the lawyers advised the NRL that they can't deregister till court detetmines the validity of their right to do so

Cheats do prosper 😕

 

[Eagleheart]

Parramatta Eels to play for NRL premiership points despite directors' legal battles

Date 6/05/2016
ABC online news


In a late change of heart, the NRL tells the Parramatta Eels they will be able to play for premiership points while five directors pursue legal action amid the salary cap scandal.

The Eels are still required to become compliant with the league's salary cap, but Anthony Watmough's proposed retirement on medical grounds could be a solution.

Five club officials are fighting the NRL's bid to deregister them over salary cap breaches at the Supreme Court in Sydney.

Representatives from the NRL contacted Parramatta officials on Thursday night to advise the club could play for points while the court action continues.

The court had made an interim order on Tuesday preventing the NRL from imposing limitations on five officials' duties.

The Parramatta officials had wanted the hearing held quickly so the team's ability to play for points would not be jeopardised, but the NRL wanted more time.

At a further hearing this morning the NRL's barrister Lachlan Gyles SC advised there would be no need for the Eels to continue with the injunction as the team would be allowed to play for points notwithstanding the court action.

The Eels' next match is on May 13 against South Sydney.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-...iership-points-despite-legal-disputes/7389938


This is very problematic, Geenslime was adamant on ch Nein footy show, "......that as long as the 5 directors given show cause notices, were still involved they will not be playing for points....."

Did Greenslime actually get the any solicitors to go over his proposed punishment before he spoke to make sure it was legal. Maybe he did and already knew they could get away with certain things.

This is not a good reflection of him nor the NRL and this why the worms need to play for no points this season, because that is something the NRL could control.

All of this is just getting more and more putrid by the day.

Nein ratings league is certainly in full swing.

 

[globaleagle]

This is ****ing weak.

So the big '5' are going to get voted out anyway as the members are annoyed with them. - no nrl punishment

The big ole 1 mill is really only 750k, will be paid for by the rich leagues club. -no nrl punishment

Hints are schubert reckons they are under the cap already - will therefore be able to play for points without shedding players....or they will allow choc to retire. - no nrl punishment

So after being found guilty of the biggest salary cap rort ever....stupidly recording the minutes of such ie helping to look for tpa's etc...

Parra still whine about their punishment...which has turned into the total b/s punishment of only 12....only their wins this year...not even every game.

Makes you wish a class action could be taken against the nrl.

Disgusting.

edit: This is straight out of the Italian way of doing things when they find their soccer teams cheating. Bring the world down on them....then 2 weeks later take 90% of the punishment off.

 

[Eagle1]

Well if I'm one of the CEOs of the 15 other clubs I'd want some answers to this debacle of the nrl,if I'm the ceo of manly I'd be finding out where our legal rights are towards getting our points back wich we lost to a team that's over the cap as we speak,I'm hoping this blows up in greenturds face.

 

[globaleagle]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...l/news-story/c0e913911ef1842ae5909f14a851174d

THE Parramatta Eels have been plunged into further turmoil after Liquor and Gaming NSW yesterday launched a detailed forensic investigation into the club.

It served a notice of demand on the NRL requiring it to provide its evidence against the “Gang of Five” Eels officials it is seeking to sack.

The dramatic action, flagged by The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday, will see Liquor and Gaming scrutinise wrongdoing at the Eels in intimate detail


One other likely line of inquiry is to ensure that the $8 million a year provided by the Leagues Club to the Eels has been used for legitimate purposes.

Liquor and Gaming will also examine a move last year by the clubs’ directors to secretly award themselves 100 per cent pay rises, despite members at the League Club’s AGM in 2014 voting to deny them any pay rise.



Yeah well...nothing will happen to Parra with this either.

Maybe it's more like "lol @ teflon parra"

 

[pt73]

Total joke .......

 

[HappilyManly]

NRL should clarify the penalty after their actions today.

Should the Court case complete by September and be in the NRL's favour - will they lose the points accrued up to that date

Or pensioning Choc off be the only actual penalty, for a 3 million dollar breach over 5 years

 

[tookey]

#BREAKING: #NRL rules Parramatta Eels can play for premiership points despite club's legal battle: https://t.co/Bmf9CmTbjS

The keep watering down the penalty.

 

[HappilyManly]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...l/news-story/c0e913911ef1842ae5909f14a851174d

THE Parramatta Eels have been plunged into further turmoil after Liquor and Gaming NSW yesterday launched a detailed forensic investigation into the club.

It served a notice of demand on the NRL requiring it to provide its evidence against the “Gang of Five” Eels officials it is seeking to sack.

The dramatic action, flagged by The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday, will see Liquor and Gaming scrutinise wrongdoing at the Eels in intimate detail


One other likely line of inquiry is to ensure that the $8 million a year provided by the Leagues Club to the Eels has been used for legitimate purposes.

Liquor and Gaming will also examine a move last year by the clubs’ directors to secretly award themselves 100 per cent pay rises, despite members at the League Club’s AGM in 2014 voting to deny them any pay rise.



Yeah well...nothing will happen to Parra with this either.

Maybe it's more like "lol @ teflon parra"

The ATO will audit every player and their assests will need to be receipted 😀
Same for the Parra board members.

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