Last play of the match vs Dragons

[NYEagle]

We also had terrible calls in the 2013 grand final although they awarded us a penalty try. In 2014 josh reynolds should have been penalised when he was offside charging down Brett Stewart and dce in the semi against the dogs. Then we cop that rubbish in the Penrith semi with Peachy try. We cop **** calls against the warriors and that awful call yesterday. Just unbelievable

Said it many times.
The NRL and Greenberg are hell bent on suffocating Manly out of the NRL because they don’t feel the Northern Beaches is a viable market.
The only crucial call we ever got in the last 10 years was the hand of Foran. Other that that we have been on the wrong end each time.
Coincidence?. I think not.
NYEagle

 

[qldeagle]

To be quite honest I thought are attack was absolutely non existent. One out plays pretty much the whole 2nd half. The boys must love tackling coz that's all they had going for them. We had no set plays, 2nd phase plays or passing game for a full 40 mins. If we had have won that I would have been astounded. We were just being bullied on our line for much of the 2nd half. Having said that I was still proud of the way the boys defended but we need more than just the footy gods on our side.

 

[Sue]

To be quite honest I thought are attack was absolutely non existent. One out plays pretty much the whole 2nd half. The boys must love tackling coz that's all they had going for them. We had no set plays, 2nd phase plays or passing game for a full 40 mins. If we had have won that I would have been astounded. We were just being bullied on our line for much of the 2nd half. Having said that I was still proud of the way the boys defended but we need more than just the footy gods on our side.

This is totally correct and we’ll need a bit of luck to win games till our big guns are back but it just requires Tom and Walker and the dynamic totally changes. About 2 mill of attack out with AFB as well.

I remember the Tigers tackled their way to a few huge early upsets last year but they were worn down in the end. We need Tom and Walker back ASAP or this could happen to us. The grind is hard to maintain.Be interesting to see how much the effort and result took out of the boys against a slick raiders outfit.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

It seems to me we start the games intent on actually playing some footy with the ball, which is refreshing. A couple of times though, say vs Souths and Dragons, as the game wears on fatigue sets in so I suppose the attacking structures are harder to maintain and it's become a matter of mere survival. Best way to preserve your energy is to dominate possession, but easier said than done.

 

[HoldenV8]

To be quite honest I thought are attack was absolutely non existent. One out plays pretty much the whole 2nd half. The boys must love tackling coz that's all they had going for them. We had no set plays, 2nd phase plays or passing game for a full 40 mins. If we had have won that I would have been astounded. We were just being bullied on our line for much of the 2nd half. Having said that I was still proud of the way the boys defended but we need more than just the footy gods on our side.

Unfortunately in the backline when it comes to attack, without either Turbo or Walker, we lack punch no matter what DCE or LG can create on the back of good work by the forwards. Yes we have new found pace on the wing with Garrick, but he's still a rookie finding his NRL feet. We have Suli who can be a wrecking ball when he runs.....when he runs. And we do have Jorge who can bullock his way to the line if given a chance. And what's left are Parker and Elliot, neither of whom are great attacking players. And none of them are game breakers like Tom and Walker.

Until Walker is allowed to play again, if he's allowed to play, or until Tom comes back, we are going to struggle to score points against sides with good defence. Canberra on Saturday should be interesting. They can defend well at times as evidenced by keeping the Worms scoreless, but on Sunday against Brisbane, at times they showed some awful defence that despite the win Ricky Stuart wouldn't have been happy with. If they defend against us like they did against Brisbane then points should be easier to come by than they were against St Merge.

You can't just rely on your defence to win games. You have to score yourself as well.

 

[HoldenV8]

Right now Manly have three genuine and proven attacking weapons in the 30 player squad.

Tom Trbojevic, Daly Cherry-Evans and Dylan Walker.

And for at least the next month or so and probably longer.....only one of them is playing first grade. Only one is playing any football at all.

 

[Spartan Eagle]

Referees who fark up should be accountable/suspended for their on field indiscretions like players are. They should appear before a match review committee /judiciary made up of a panel of NRL coaches. The panel would alternate each week. There would be gradings depending on how costly/result impacting the decision was, as well as how blatantly obvious the decision was incorrect. Also carry over points for those annoying motherfarkers who consistently screw the game over.

 

[The Who]

Referees who fark up should be accountable/suspended for their on field indiscretions like players are. They should appear before a match review committee /judiciary made up of a panel of NRL coaches. The panel would alternate each week. There would be gradings depending on how costly/result impacting the decision was, as well as how blatantly obvious the decision was incorrect. Also carry over points for those annoying motherfarkers who consistently screw the game over.

For the next round of matches does anyone know the rule about 'escorting/blocking'?

 

[Spartan Eagle]

For the next round of matches does anyone know the rule about 'escorting/blocking'?

Here is the rule as stated in NRL rule book 2018..

Escorts

A player is not to ‘deliberately obstruct an opponent who is not in possession’ Section 15 (j)

It will be interpreted to be an obstruction in regards to a player catching the ball from a kick if:

1. A player arrives at the same time as an opponent and obstructs him deliberately;

or

2. Deliberately runs an opponent off the ball.

This applies to both the kicking and non-kicking teams.

It will NOT be considered an obstruction in regards to a player catching the ball from a kick if:

1. A defending player moves directly towards the ball; and
2. Takes up a position prior to the ball being caught.

 

[Spartan Eagle]

For those of you who are interested I have attached the NRL laws and interpretations.

 

[47MVEagle]

Here is the rule as stated in NRL rule book 2018..

Escorts

A player is not to ‘deliberately obstruct an opponent who is not in possession’ Section 15 (j)

It will be interpreted to be an obstruction in regards to a player catching the ball from a kick if:

1. A player arrives at the same time as an opponent and obstructs him deliberately;

or

2. Deliberately runs an opponent off the ball.

This applies to both the kicking and non-kicking teams.

It will NOT be considered an obstruction in regards to a player catching the ball from a kick if:

1. A defending player moves directly towards the ball; and
2. Takes up a position prior to the ball being caught.

Do they define what constitutes "deliberately" in this context or how to determine it?

 

[Spartan Eagle]

Do they define what constitutes "deliberately" in this context or how to determine it?

I couldn't find anything which defines what constitutes deliberately.. They probably apply the meaning subjectively on a case by case. Really comes down to intent.

Attached is A USER GUIDE TO LAWS OF RUGBY LEAGUE issued by NRL that goes over scenarios that may assist with interpretation of rules.

It's quite intersting.

 

[Shoe1]

To me escorting is just old fashioned shepherding.

If the blocking player is stationary that is still a shepherd. He is off side in front of the player going for the ball/ or with the ball.

 

[Woodsie]

To me escorting is just old fashioned shepherding.

If the blocking player is stationary that is still a shepherd. He is off side in front of the player going for the ball/ or with the ball.

Beat me to it ..... 100% ... why the need to invent new terminology to try and sound important or claim a new rule or interpretation ....

The "old" rule that said if you deliberately change your direction to impede a chaser is a penalty is good enough ... just bloody enforce it you pelicans and leave the "escorts" to GreenTurds credit cards ......

 

[StuBoot]

To me escorting is just old fashioned shepherding.

If the blocking player is stationary that is still a shepherd. He is off side in front of the player going for the ball/ or with the ball.

Sterlo made a good point when they discussed this on Sunday.
He pretty much said a good indicator is if any player in front of the player going for the ball doesn't know where the ball is then he has no right to be there.
Have a look at the players that are attempting to block - they look at their player, look where the attacking player is, they don't look where the ball is.
Should be a simple indicator really.

By the NRL rule determination above, are they saying that you could pretty much park as many players as you want in front of the ball catcher and as long as they get there first and are stationary that's okay?

 

[Peter C]

To be quite honest I thought are attack was absolutely non existent. One out plays pretty much the whole 2nd half. The boys must love tackling coz that's all they had going for them. We had no set plays, 2nd phase plays or passing game for a full 40 mins. If we had have won that I would have been astounded. We were just being bullied on our line for much of the 2nd half. Having said that I was still proud of the way the boys defended but we need more than just the footy gods on our side.

In defense , Dragons had everyone available except for Widdop and DeBelin, however they seemed to have covered for Widdop easily, whereas we still had Blake, Tom T and Walker out still.

 

[mickqld]

So the no idea league have sacked the touch judge. Just wonderful lack of blame on the 2 arseclowns with whistles and the buffoons in the bunker. Seriously an administrative joke this sport

 

[cava2323]

Has the peanut been sent to reggies yet?

 

[HappilyManly]

Has the peanut been sent to reggies yet?

So he didn't even get demoted?! Promoted actually, to a big ANZAC Day special game ffs

Scumos v Warriors ANZAC match promotion

 

[The Who]

Scumos v Warriors ANZAC match promotion

Guess he'll get an escort on to the ground from the military.