Garricks metres gained

[susan]

Sorry Susan,this is what ****s me to tears,you go on about us having the slowest backline,but now you say the most important thing is making yards out of our own half.
You want a speed demon but also a beast to make yards,geez mate you are a hard taskmaster.
How much do you want to spend on 2 wingers?

Not overly concerned whst ****s you to be honest. Do you watch the modern game? Have a look at the prototype wingers everywhere. You think they are either big and slow.or powderpuffs and fast?
Big does not means slow anymore.The exact opposite in fact .And plenty aren’t on big money and virtually every club has them.. Even the smaller ones like Katoa , Nofauluma and Mansour are pocket dynamos who eat tough yards and are rarely if ever rag dolled.

We score zero tries from kicks and concede plenty . If you are happy with that failing on both sides of the field PLUS weak kick returns from the right side winger AND the fullback and throw in a decent but solely defensive left centre who also gets belted - then that’s fine. Sounds like an absolutely perfect recipe for a tough hard semi fought out via field position and a try from a kick as they usually are.

I’m happy with Jorge on one side getting tough yards and missing a kick or two but just not good enough with Garrick on the other side as a combo if you want to be there at the pointy end. And thats the end game ... winning a comp ... not “ doing a job”. Food for thought . The top sides score 25 to 30 percent of tries from kicks, mainly due to powerful athletic outside backs.

When you have Parker and Garrick on hardly any cash , and Jorge average money , good cap management says you should be able to afford at least one class athletic metre eating winger maybe, especially when you can barely score a point when the star fullback goes down. Still we have one specialist hooker, one specialist goal kicker who kicks at 60 per cent and one specialist fullback in our roster so it’s not that surprising.Not hard to work out we have roster issues from Barrett and Des knows it.

But In any case I thought blind Freddy would have realised my point by now but no sadly not .Im not saying spend the cash ffs.

. There is a big fast outside back in the thirty called Hopoate who is on a relative pittance.... but that’s right he will never play because he’s done his acl. As Creighton scores try after try, the Hammer beats a dozen tacklers, Coates soars above the pack and Best rampages down the field ... and if we let him get away through no opportunitues and keep a tortoise backline instead then that will do me.

Walker to centre , Hoppa to wing , Cust at five eight and you have a totally different points scoring dynamic.And if you took the other route and kept Parker and pushed Suli to wing then all of a sudden you have Suli and Hoppa returning the football. Both approaches good options that will get you out of tough corners and find points in big matches.

 

[Bring back the.... Biff?]

Garrick is soft and opposition teams know this so they smash him. Same with parker he's too slow off the mark and gets creamed regularly. Garrick is solid apart from that we dont really use him in attack this year.. i wonder how many he has scored this year compared to last year same time

 

[Bring back the.... Biff?]

Thanks on the above, I did not mention about buying anyone.

I don’t rate Garrick This season.

That’s not to say in the squad of 30 we have we don’t have anyone else, I would give Funa more of chance there on the right wing.

It is a matter of personal opinion and judgment, others may see Garrick as a good player. I don’t full stop for me.

I think Des stuck with him due to his goal kicking.. if not he then whom? Also he was great last year like jetski. Des is hoping they recapture that form me thinks

 

[40 years an eagle]

There is nothing wrong with Garrick's form. Our problems are 2 or 3 passes before his position. He would be the touted like he was last year if our game management and ball distribution were half competent. ANY winger is going to struggle with our deficiencies inside him...and Des knows that.

 

[Dion Johnson]

I think Des stuck with him due to his goal kicking.. if not he then whom? Also he was great last year like jetski. Des is hoping they recapture that form me thinks

Yeh Des is very loyal, I would have liked to see more of Funa there he has got something about him, good speed, kicks goals, good line runner.

Jetski was good on the right edge when he replaced the injured Sirro.

Sadly for me both Garrick and JetSki are getting picked on what they have done in the past with form. Funa for Garrick and Guacamole for Jetski.

I think your correct that Des is hoping they come good.

 

[wombatgc]

The opposition know to hit him right underneath the ball. Spilled it twice in bringing it back. Gets rag dolled, and his kicking is shiit house compared to last year. Im really hoping we go after Charlie Saab.
But according to my daughter he’s hot, and for that alone he keeps his spot.

Can I just apologise for calling him Charlie Saab, for the love of god, I don’t know why I thought it was Charlie (I don’t drink anymore, maybe that’s the problem?). Anyway Jason Saab it is. But on reflection of his last cpla games, is he the answer? I don’t know.
When did wing become such an important position?

 

[HoldenV8]

Just one thing to remember.....

Wingers usually aren't in a side because of their Jake Trbojevic like tackling, they are primarily out there to score tries.

Personally, I prefer wingers who at least show commitment in defence even if they are generally a poor defender. In the Worms game when Waqa Blake stole the ball from Marty and ran the length of the field, it was Garrick who came across from the far wing to try and stop him while Jorge was back playing hopscotch on the Worms 30. It was almost the same last Friday when Tabuai-Fidow made his break late in the game. Jorge was flat out just trying to keep up (and dropped 15 metres to him in just 50 metres.....think about that), though luckily DCE was there to bring the Cows fullback down or he would have scored. Jorge may come up with the occasional big hit in defence, but more often than not he's like Norm from Life Be In It when it comes to chasing a defender or turning and chasing a kick put behind him. He's just a lazy defender.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Garrick moved to the left wing outside Parker, Suli one out to the right wing and Walks (when he plays) back at right centre.

 

[HoldenV8]

Garrick is soft and opposition teams know this so they smash him. Same with parker he's too slow off the mark and gets creamed regularly. Garrick is solid apart from that we dont really use him in attack this year.. i wonder how many he has scored this year compared to last year same time

After Round 11, 2019 ... Garrick had 6 tries compared to 1 right now in 2020. He had also kicked 15/18 goals (83.33%) last year compared to 27/40 this year (67.50%).

In attack this year he really has been starved of any decent ball either from passes or kicks. Most of the time he is even seeing the ball is either a kick return or doing hit ups in early tackles while tired forwards lumber back onside. I honestly can't remember the last time we put him into open space out on the wing or actually kicked the ball for him to try and score.

That part about not putting him into open space dumbfounds me. I mean, outside Turbo he is arguably the fastest player we have currently playing first grade (and is probably top 3 for pace in the entire squad), yet we aren't using his pace to any advantage. I hate to say it but most of the time out there the ball is either getting to Siro or Suli and that's as far as its going. Half the time Siro tries to cut back inside, while Suli tries to barge his way through the line instead of even occasionally trying to set up his winger. With Suli its like someone has gotten into his head that he's going to break tackles every time he runs. Personally I'd be telling him ... you are going to attract a couple of defenders each time, one usually their winger, so when they come in don't always try to barge your way through, occasionally pass it out to Garrick if there is space for him to run.

 

[Bring back the.... Biff?]

After Round 11, 2019 ... Garrick had 6 tries compared to 1 right now in 2020. He had also kicked 15/18 goals (83.33%) last year compared to 27/40 this year (67.50%).

In attack this year he really has been starved of any decent ball either from passes or kicks. Most of the time he is even seeing the ball is either a kick return or doing hit ups in early tackles while tired forwards lumber back onside. I honestly can't remember the last time we put him into open space out on the wing or actually kicked the ball for him to try and score.

That part about not putting him into open space dumbfounds me. I mean, outside Turbo he is arguably the fastest player we have currently playing first grade (and is probably top 3 for pace in the entire squad), yet we aren't using his pace to any advantage. I hate to say it but most of the time out there the ball is either getting to Siro or Suli and that's as far as its going. Half the time Siro tries to cut back inside, while Suli tries to barge his way through the line instead of even occasionally trying to set up his winger. With Suli its like someone has gotten into his head that he's going to break tackles every time he runs. Personally I'd be telling him ... you are going to attract a couple of defenders each time, one usually their winger, so when they come in don't always try to barge your way through, occasionally pass it out to Garrick if there is space for him to run.

Yep! We never use him been saying it for ages now. Suli cant set up his outside man, if jamie lyon was playing Garrick would be top try scorer ah killer.... what a machine

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Disagree with a couple of previous posts, in that I think Suli does have skill to put his winger away. However yes I do agree that opportunities on the right hand side have been few and far between so far this year.
One I recall was Garrick finishing off the famous no-try in the first Eels game, it was an impressive finish.
Garrick is no steam-roller but he's doing everything he can from what I've noticed. Does need to improve the goal-kicking though, because without that, his wing spot is up for grabs.

 

[The better Robbo]

Just one thing to remember.....

Wingers usually aren't in a side because of their Jake Trbojevic like tackling, they are primarily out there to score tries.

Personally, I prefer wingers who at least show commitment in defence even if they are generally a poor defender. In the Worms game when Waqa Blake stole the ball from Marty and ran the length of the field, it was Garrick who came across from the far wing to try and stop him while Jorge was back playing hopscotch on the Worms 30. It was almost the same last Friday when Tabuai-Fidow made his break late in the game. Jorge was flat out just trying to keep up (and dropped 15 metres to him in just 50 metres.....think about that), though luckily DCE was there to bring the Cows fullback down or he would have scored. Jorge may come up with the occasional big hit in defence, but more often than not he's like Norm from Life Be In It when it comes to chasing a defender or turning and chasing a kick put behind him. He's just a lazy defender.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Garrick moved to the left wing outside Parker, Suli one out to the right wing and Walks (when he plays) back at right centre.

Also when Funa made the break in the last 40 seconds against Knights and put the grubber through it was Garrick who was 1st there in support. Garrick does get man handled a bit but he has all the other attributes of a quality winger.
Our right edge attack is hopeless at the moment, Siro does his unders play to Chez and Suli rarely gets any early ball and when he does he is a "run first" pass second type player. I 100% believe our best backline is Walker and Suli on the right with Parker and Garrick on the left.
Cust is also a 5/8 that puts players in holes, something that Parker is very good at. As a team balance and combinations it is by far our best backline. Unfortunately Jorge misses out

 

[stoodamire]

I think Garrick needs to lower himself when running into the defence line.

He is held upright most times and driven back.

 

[HoldenV8]

Disagree with a couple of previous posts, in that I think Suli does have skill to put his winger away. However yes I do agree that opportunities on the right hand side have been few and far between so far this year.
One I recall was Garrick finishing off the famous no-try in the first Eels game, it was an impressive finish.
Garrick is no steam-roller but he's doing everything he can from what I've noticed. Does need to improve the goal-kicking though, because without that, his wing spot is up for grabs.

I totally agree that Suli can put his winger away because we've seen him do it. But lately, as in a fair bit of this season so far, its like he's got breaktackleitis and is trying to do it mostly himself instead of setting up his winger when the opportunity presents itself.

He's got the size, strength, speed, skills and experience now to be a lot more damaging than he currently is being. Its not all about breaking tackles and making line breaks. A lot of being a good attacking centre these days is setting up your winger ... something lately he seems to have gotten away from doing.

 

[HoldenV8]

Also when Funa made the break in the last 40 seconds against Knights and put the grubber through it was Garrick who was 1st there in support. Garrick does get man handled a bit but he has all the other attributes of a quality winger.
Our right edge attack is hopeless at the moment, Siro does his unders play to Chez and Suli rarely gets any early ball and when he does he is a "run first" pass second type player. I 100% believe our best backline is Walker and Suli on the right with Parker and Garrick on the left.
Cust is also a 5/8 that puts players in holes, something that Parker is very good at. As a team balance and combinations it is by far our best backline. Unfortunately Jorge misses out

Bingo

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

With Dylan at right centre (shhh!) worth a flutter on Garrick as first try scorer

 

[40 nil]

Does need to improve the goal-kicking though, because without that, his wing spot is up for grabs.

Garrick's goal kicking has been reasonable to good this year. Apart from the game against the Bulldogs (2/7), he has kicked @ 76% - see this post for full stats Reuben Garrick

 

[BOZO]

With Dylan at right centre (shhh!) worth a flutter on Garrick as first try scorer

Dylan is our Speedy Porsche and I hope we dont have him parked in our garage again at 5/8

 

[BOZO]

Garrick's goal kicking has been reasonable to good this year. Apart from the game against the Bulldogs (2/7), he has kicked @ 76% - see this post for full stats Reuben Garrick

Lets keep him on his toes and increase the bar to 85 %

 

[madmax]

I think Des stuck with him due to his goal kicking.. if not he then whom? Also he was great last year like jetski. Des is hoping they recapture that form me thinks

DCE......

 

[Chip and Chase]

Also when Funa made the break in the last 40 seconds against Knights and put the grubber through it was Garrick who was 1st there in support. Garrick does get man handled a bit but he has all the other attributes of a quality winger.
Our right edge attack is hopeless at the moment, Siro does his unders play to Chez and Suli rarely gets any early ball and when he does he is a "run first" pass second type player. I 100% believe our best backline is Walker and Suli on the right with Parker and Garrick on the left.
Cust is also a 5/8 that puts players in holes, something that Parker is very good at. As a team balance and combinations it is by far our best backline. Unfortunately Jorge misses out

Have a think about who is inside Siro and Suli and supposed to be running that right side attack. His lack of form is reflecting on all those outside him. His default "I have no idea what to do here" play is to turn Siro under him back into traffic. I'd like to see Suli get some earlier ball too.