[Resurrected] DCE is the worst halfback in the NRL

[nightster]

DCE is as good a half as we are ever going to get. Last year showed what a decent five eighth can do for him. This year we had croker and Walker and duck knows why hodkinson was bought if it was to be a reserve hooker. People say he needs a quality 6, well he got one in Munster and that dudes not an organising halfs boot strap. People also go on and on about Thurston playing both sides of the field but I reckon Morgan is a decent half. Jeez. The dude tries his heart out. He has show ponies like Tapaou missing basic tackles and throwing rubbish offloads all the time. He has API throwing the worst dummy half passes in NRL (waiting for your response Turbo 1) and he has a coach who thinks he is Wayne Bennet because the boys like drinking beer and playing cricket with him. Move on people. You know nothing John Snow.

Please ... he was out injured most of the season you can drop that old catch cry ..

 

[bob dylan]

And the thing is, he is not really overpaid compared to others. You don’t get much change out of a mill these days for a halfback. What screwed people’s opionions was the length of the contract. He may well be under the mark in the last 3 years of his contract.

Its hard to say he is not overpaid.

He takes $1million from our salary cap.

Cronk takes less than $500K from the Roosters.

PS I like this thread, some really good points made.

 

[Class of 96]

How can you say he is not overpaid.

He takes $1million from our salary cap.

Cronk takes less than $500K from the Roosters.

Most clubs have a player or two taking a large slice of the cap. As for Cronk, well you know games are being played with that if that is all he’s on, but I think you’ll find he is on a mill base.

 

[bob dylan]

M As for Cronk, well you know games are being played with that if that is all he’s on.

Its no secret it was freely disgusteon NRL 360 a couple of weeks ago. Kent, Iken and Buzz all all agreed they knew he was on less than $500K Roosters money plus TPA's more than doubling that amount.

 

[nightster]

Its no secret it was freely disgusted on NRL 360 a couple of weeks ago. Kent, Iken and Buzz all all agreed they knew he was on less than $500K Roosters money plus TPA's more than doubling that amount.

TPAs are such a playing field unleveller (rort) !!

 

[XV-1]

Its hard to say he is not overpaid.

He takes $1million from our salary cap.

Cronk takes less than $500K from the Roosters.

PS I like this thread, some really good points made.

Yea, you are right. Tedesco is also on 500k per year. Hargreaves on 300K. no wonder they are always under the salary cap.😀

 

[Class of 96]

Its no secret it was freely disgusted on NRL 360 a couple of weeks ago. Kent, Iken and Buzz all all agreed they knew he was on less than $500K Roosters money plus TPA's more than doubling that amount.

Everything is freely disgusted on that show.

 

[Class of 96]

Zerotackle has Cronk on a mill

 

[bob dylan]

Zerotackle has Cronk on a mill

Exactly what I said above but less than half comes from there cap, well according to those on 360.

Fox pick up a major part of the rest.

But DCE still costs MW more than double what Cronk costs his team.

 

[Class of 96]

Exactly what I said above but less than half comes from there cap, well according to those on 360.

Fox pick up a major part of the rest.

But DCE still costs MW more than double what Cronk costs his team.

Fair enough. Wasn’t aware of all the details of his deal. Acutely remembering us trying to sign Gifty under his market value and being told no fkn way, his market value is twice that and will be factored into your cap regardless what you pay him. How times have changed.

 

[Brooke]

I wish I could give this post more than a winner. Our coach was **** out half is great. That list sums it all up for the knockers. Who would you have over him? Cory Normans on 940K a year? DCE is a lucky dude. He gets to play footy for a living and gets paid well for it. Most of us here wish we had that life but we don't. We didn't get there for various reasons. Maybe just not good enough. NRL money is a pittance compared to other international sports. Tell me what a player has done tactically or effort-wise wrong I can maybe debate or agree with you. Harbour a bogan grudge because someone earns more money than you... I can't even begin to reason with you because you are stuck in a poor me trump worshiping life where there is nothing but a constant whine to make yourself feel important.

My point as well. To rubbish our captain, the bloke who busts his guts every week for the club we love and support beggars belief.

 

[Brooke]

Exactly what I said above but less than half comes from there cap, well according to those on 360.

Fox pick up a major part of the rest.

But DCE still costs MW more than double what Cronk costs his team.

Isn’t this a salary cap rort that only a few clubs such as the Roosters & Broncos can take advantage of ? I don’t think Manly would be in a position to get a top line half for $500k and have a third party pick up the rest.

 

[HappilyManly]

Exactly what I said above but less than half comes from there cap, well according to those on 360.

Fox pick up a major part of the rest.

But DCE still costs MW more than double what Cronk costs his team.

The Cap investigation reported Chez on 800k with 400k TPAs

Buzz had a double page expose on it

 

[Fluffy]

Its hard to say he is not overpaid.

He takes $1million from our salary cap.

Cronk takes less than $500K from the Roosters.

PS I like this thread, some really good points made.

every player is overpaid if you want to use the roosters sombrero as an example.

I heard Tedesco is actually paying them 250K on the cap to play there but still clearing a cool million after TPA's

 

[manly al]

Credit where credit is due and D C E has performed well for Manly since S O O three but also admittedly , some very ordinary club efforts before this . The highest paid player in the club and in the elite pay grade so would still be expected to play to a high standard on a fairly consistent and regular basis, which of course goes without saying .

 

[Paw93]

I think Chez has really come into his own as the game manager for Manly after SOO. His kicking game has been (for the most part) great and he's thrown some great passes to put others into open space or to give them a chance. The problem in the second half of the year is that most of the team haven't turned up and have been dropping ball and missing tackles way too often. He can't do anything about errors and missed tackles from his teammates. The other thing is that the rest of the team aren't posing enough of a threat to be worrying the opposition. This puts him under a lot more pressure to create whereas in SOO he had Slater and Munster creating a lot more chances at the line.

 

[weev]

DCE is a great player. But destined to play out the rest of career in a mediocre team.

And it's because of his pay bracket. I believe he gets 16% of the salary cap and it's indexed. If the cap goes up so does his salary.

That's about 1/6 of the teams pay. The club is paying overs for a handful of players and probably hoped the others would just come. But we are not the Storm that attracts up and comers cause of the good system, facilities and coach.

In short, Penn has blundered the future of the club. No other club has offered such a long, honey deal to one player.

No wonder we have cap dramas, and we don't even get on-field outcomes for those dramas.

At the end of DCE's career, he'll be a rich man, the club he played for will be broken, and he'll look back at his best days, when he was on 50K a season, as the highlight.

This is not the only colossal blunder by the Penns: Toovy-gate, Green Blog and Barrett. Missing money and then blowing it elsewhere.

The damage of the Penns could take a decade to rebuild if we are lucky to be around. I wish it wasn't so, and it could work out well, but not by design, it will be total luck if we do.

 

[HappilyManly]

DCE is a great player. But destined to play out the rest of career in a mediocre team.

And it's because of his pay bracket. I believe he gets 16% of the salary cap and it's indexed. If the cap goes up so does his salary.

That's about 1/6 of the teams pay. The club is paying overs for a handful of players and probably hoped the others would just come. But we are not the Storm that attracts up and comers cause of the good system, facilities and coach.

In short, Penn has blundered the future of the club. No other club has offered such a long, honey deal to one player.

No wonder we have cap dramas, and we don't even get on-field outcomes for those dramas.

At the end of DCE's career, he'll be a rich man, the club he played for will be broken, and he'll look back at his best days, when he was on 50K a season, as the highlight.

This is not the only colossal blunder by the Penns: Toovy-gate, Green Blog and Barrett. Missing money and then blowing it elsewhere.

The damage of the Penns could take a decade to rebuild if we are lucky to be around. I wish it wasn't so, and it could work out well, but not by design, it will be total luck if we do.

Taumololo is on a 10 year deal at 1 million and he plays less than half of what Chez plays.

Chez signed for 6 years with a 2 year option in his favour

Don't know how a prop's body will last another 9 years

 

[Tragic Eagle]

DCE is a very good player but is not playing to the potential I had expected of him. He produces brilliant displays from time to time and always puts in 100%. However his game management is lacking and I don't believe he reads the play well. Sterling was not nearly as athletically talented as many of his opponents or DCE but he had vision. We looked awful a number of times this year messing up field goal opportunities and taking poor options. I don't believe DCE should be required to try to play both sides of the ruck as it takes time away from him to read the game and identify real opportunities. he doesn't seem to have the time that some ball players are gifted with. I wouldn't swap him for any other half back at present and if he had the likes of James Maloney as his halves partner he would be the top half back in the game. Every player is different and DCE needs to be coached to play to his strengths. Unfortunately he has had his career stalled by very poor recruitment and coaching the last 3 years. I don't believe that being the captain has helped his game either. His strikes me more as a quiet achiever rather than a leader. I hope the stuff about him dividing the playing group is untrue.

 

[IQofalimabean]

If thurston or cronk were the 7 for manly this year the team would still be in the bottom 6 because our outside backs are weak besides turbo or playing in the wrong position like dylan walker at 5/8.