Coronavirus sucks.. but the NRL lives!

Oliver said:
Fantastic to hear X-man, I'm glad you're not in the most vulnerable age bracket for this horrible pandemic (really).

I wasn't referring to climate change, global warming or whatever people want to term it as these days but I'll take the bait.

I don't need a Swedish teenager (what's a strawman anyway?) to tell me things are bad, I'll take the 97% consensus of climate scientist peer reviewed scientific journals word for it. Keep punching down like the lowest common denominator you are champ, bit harder to strip that one down to an irrelevant pejorative slogan, ay?

As a progressive society, one that has come out of the caves to become the apex species of an entire planet, an astute observation could be made that we have to acknowledge that the ingrained, conservative way of thinking is not always the yellow brick road to endless economic growth based on a planet of finite resources. In my opinion (which means **** all) we are witnessing the coming collision and inevitable correction - yes we have had worse economic conditions I haven't been around to experience but with the event horizon of negative cash rates among other unprecedented hail Mary's upon us, we are fast running out of ammunition. This is the nucleus that flies in the face of a generational groupthink who has the sum of their lifes work riding on a negative geared house of cards, so to speak.

I'm not and never would suggest that an entire generation didn't work their fingers to the bone and then some to get to where they are, nor am I suggesting we pull the rug out from under them, rather an honest open dialogue devoid of assumptions on who has or had it worse that aims to create a true environment to "have a go and get a go". For the betterment of society as a whole this unfortunately might result in a minority being worse off, across the board mind you.

If I was to provide a hypothetical example, think of a widowed Mavis living in a 6 bedroom home by herself in Roseville. Yes, she will be losing out in some individual aspect for the betterment of society as a whole however, she deserves comfort and appropriate compensation - it almost certainly will not be the equivalent, but she will not be destitute, nor preventing productivity by needlessly taking up space that can be utilised for better purposes... not to mention I'm sure she's one of the dyed in the wool conservatives who's suggestion to the young, fit and ready to work who can't find an economically viable place in society to head out west and muster some cattle, like that is a relevant solution in an increasingly automated and centralised society. This whole scenario is a hypocritical generalisation on my part, I'm open to critique.

There's a fine line between advocating for a redistribution of wealth, which to clarify I'm not except for the obscenely wealthy you've mentioned who extracted it from the aforementioned fast disappearing, economic engine middle class and having a serious discussion around repealing exploitative and enacting new, fairer models that truly empower individuals to enrich themselves determined by the effort they apply to themselves and benefit they provide society as opposed to the status quo.

Those old bastards you refer to could and did purchase a place to live based off their hard work, there's no doubt about it, but my issue is with the fact that for the vast majority of my generation and the ones to come, it's simply not even a possibility - but here's my personal situation juxtaposition to your view: I cannot afford to purchase a place to live within 1.5 hours (each way) of my workplace and I make 30k more than the median salary of the average Australian which puts me in a privileged position and one of the higher true earnings brackets in this country. I am expected to work 60 hours a week, 5-6 days a week and have already experienced multiple, significant mental and physical issues due to this and have had to care for disabled parents who are completely incapacitated while watching the government defund a social safety net (NDIS) in exchange for a surplus that never came whilst they subsidise the very people who's income I provide while their government rebates (see: welfare) protect and grow their positions. You could say my experience has made me see the forest for the trees, although I too am human and prone to misjudgment.

I've got nothing against you mate, my personal experience has shaped my view of things as has yours, I'm not a communist but I believe that the rampant individualism that has been promoted in this country for the last 30 years has changed us from the lucky country to another globalist, neoliberal, soulless ****hole - don't take my word for it either, have a look at our rankings on the OECD list if you care to.

I'm sure you're a good bloke and difference of opinions is what keeps things interesting, I apologise for being overly aggressive or insulting and want to extend my genuine thanks to you for sharing your beliefs despite my immature and petulant attitude, to quote the wise Corey Parker maybe I need to learn to show some respect - I hope you interpret this as the passion it is instead of the animosity it comes off as.

Namaste or something like that :praying:
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I never thought I would have to endure something like this on a friggin’ football forum. My god things are slipping fast around here. A priest is needed for this kind of post...
 
Moops said:
I never thought I would have to endure something like this on a friggin’ football forum. My god things are slipping fast around here. A priest is needed for this kind of post...
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#GoManly

AND let’s hope we can still say that #nextweek
 
Here's an idea - how about all the industries that make a profit out of our game tip in a few $$$ to help the game survive?

I'm referring to the likes of the various betting agencies that (cynically IMO) make a boatload out of every round.
 
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@Mark from Brisbane ...... how'd you'd like to be in the travel business still? Poor bastards ..... this is going to hurt so many small businesses in ways that I don't we can even imagine yet. I can see it hurting mine.
 
Oliver said:
Fantastic to hear X-man, I'm glad you're not in the most vulnerable age bracket for this horrible pandemic (really).

I wasn't referring to climate change, global warming or whatever people want to term it as these days but I'll take the bait.

I don't need a Swedish teenager (what's a strawman anyway?) to tell me things are bad, I'll take the 97% consensus of climate scientist peer reviewed scientific journals word for it. Keep punching down like the lowest common denominator you are champ, bit harder to strip that one down to an irrelevant pejorative slogan, ay?

As a progressive society, one that has come out of the caves to become the apex species of an entire planet, an astute observation could be made that we have to acknowledge that the ingrained, conservative way of thinking is not always the yellow brick road to endless economic growth based on a planet of finite resources. In my opinion (which means **** all) we are witnessing the coming collision and inevitable correction - yes we have had worse economic conditions I haven't been around to experience but with the event horizon of negative cash rates among other unprecedented hail Mary's upon us, we are fast running out of ammunition. This is the nucleus that flies in the face of a generational groupthink who has the sum of their lifes work riding on a negative geared house of cards, so to speak.

I'm not and never would suggest that an entire generation didn't work their fingers to the bone and then some to get to where they are, nor am I suggesting we pull the rug out from under them, rather an honest open dialogue devoid of assumptions on who has or had it worse that aims to create a true environment to "have a go and get a go". For the betterment of society as a whole this unfortunately might result in a minority being worse off, across the board mind you.

If I was to provide a hypothetical example, think of a widowed Mavis living in a 6 bedroom home by herself in Roseville. Yes, she will be losing out in some individual aspect for the betterment of society as a whole however, she deserves comfort and appropriate compensation - it almost certainly will not be the equivalent, but she will not be destitute, nor preventing productivity by needlessly taking up space that can be utilised for better purposes... not to mention I'm sure she's one of the dyed in the wool conservatives who's suggestion to the young, fit and ready to work who can't find an economically viable place in society to head out west and muster some cattle, like that is a relevant solution in an increasingly automated and centralised society. This whole scenario is a hypocritical generalisation on my part, I'm open to critique.

There's a fine line between advocating for a redistribution of wealth, which to clarify I'm not except for the obscenely wealthy you've mentioned who extracted it from the aforementioned fast disappearing, economic engine middle class and having a serious discussion around repealing exploitative and enacting new, fairer models that truly empower individuals to enrich themselves determined by the effort they apply to themselves and benefit they provide society as opposed to the status quo.

Those old bastards you refer to could and did purchase a place to live based off their hard work, there's no doubt about it, but my issue is with the fact that for the vast majority of my generation and the ones to come, it's simply not even a possibility - but here's my personal situation juxtaposition to your view: I cannot afford to purchase a place to live within 1.5 hours (each way) of my workplace and I make 30k more than the median salary of the average Australian which puts me in a privileged position and one of the higher true earnings brackets in this country. I am expected to work 60 hours a week, 5-6 days a week and have already experienced multiple, significant mental and physical issues due to this and have had to care for disabled parents who are completely incapacitated while watching the government defund a social safety net (NDIS) in exchange for a surplus that never came whilst they subsidise the very people who's income I provide while their government rebates (see: welfare) protect and grow their positions. You could say my experience has made me see the forest for the trees, although I too am human and prone to misjudgment.

I've got nothing against you mate, my personal experience has shaped my view of things as has yours, I'm not a communist but I believe that the rampant individualism that has been promoted in this country for the last 30 years has changed us from the lucky country to another globalist, neoliberal, soulless ****hole - don't take my word for it either, have a look at our rankings on the OECD list if you care to.

I'm sure you're a good bloke and difference of opinions is what keeps things interesting, I apologise for being overly aggressive or insulting and want to extend my genuine thanks to you for sharing your beliefs despite my immature and petulant attitude, to quote the wise Corey Parker maybe I need to learn to show some respect - I hope you interpret this as the passion it is instead of the animosity it comes off as.

Namaste or something like that :praying:
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No need to apologise to me mate, you have made a lot of very good points in the above post.
 
Wombat64 said:
Anyone else think this season will be cancelled after next week?
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The general mood I picked up at Brookie today on this season, in the FM stand and in the GA area, was one of pessimism. Many thought even next week's games won't go ahead. It was a case of most saying "see you next year" (at Brookie) - sad but true....

On the other hand, I still have a little optimism and hope.
 
ALinda said:
The general mood I picked up at Brookie today on this season, in the FM stand and in the GA area, was one of pessimism. Many thought even next week's games won't go ahead. It was a case of most saying "see you next year" (at Brookie) - sad but true....

On the other hand, I still have a little optimism and hope.
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I hope you're right ........
 
ALinda said:
The general mood I picked up at Brookie today on this season, in the FM stand and in the GA area, was one of pessimism. Many thought even next week's games won't go ahead. It was a case of most saying "see you next year" (at Brookie) - sad but true....

On the other hand, I still have a little optimism and hope.
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If they cancel the season there is every chance the NRL is insolvent and Manly goes under so I hope you are right too. Vlandys basically said they are done for with a season cancellation. Broadcasters don’t have to pay and insurers won’t either. The only positive thing is it was good to see a bit of brutal honesty from an NRL employee for once, rather than the bull**** from Beatty and the Turd.
 
susan said:
If they cancel the season there is every chance the NRL is insolvent and Manly goes under so I hope you are right too. Vlandys basically said they are done for with a season cancellation. Broadcasters don’t have to pay and insurers won’t either. The only positive thing is it was good to see a bit of brutal honesty from an NRL employee for once, rather than the bull**** from Beatty and the Turd.
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VLandy’s was good today , got a bit confused with the pronunciation but otherwise he’s a smart operator!!
 
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