Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

[Go manly]

You clown. I said his old man Hoppa Sr deserved most of the credit for his development, maybe read what I said before second guessing my posts. You made it seem like Seibs picked him up from nowhere like no one had heard of him. Maybe the fact that his brothers have already played NRL might give you a hint as to who is responsible for their development. I'd love for you to tell your contrast of opinion to Hoppa Sr' face when it comes to his son's development.

Hey SE 23
I have had yaks with old man Hoppa and he speaks of Seibs in a good light
Also had discussions with Ex and current players around accountability of coaches versus players influence and visions and planning for year ahead

If you don’t think the pride Guernsey had an impact or potential to succeed or the DCE announcement had a impact you need to re think

Both events were unexpected , un planned and out of control of the coach

Not sure if your intentionally white anting but you are ill informed and don’t seem like someone I would rely on in my team or club

If your opinion is genuine , I respect it
If it’s not , find something better to do
I am optimistic that we may have settled a bumpy ride and just might hang in there despite our criticism of coach and players
But I have felt this way for over 50 years

Go Manly says
Go manly

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Hey SE 23
I have had yaks with old man Hoppa and he speaks of Seibs in a good light
Also had discussions with Ex and current players around accountability of coaches versus players influence and visions and planning for year ahead

If you don’t think the pride Guernsey had an impact or potential to succeed or the DCE announcement had a impact you need to re think

Both events were unexpected , un planned and out of control of the coach

Not sure if your intentionally white anting but you are ill informed and don’t seem like someone I would rely on in my team or club

If your opinion is genuine , I respect it
If it’s not , find something better to do
I am optimistic that we may have settled a bumpy ride and just might hang in there despite our criticism of coach and players
But I have felt this way for over 50 years

Go Manly says
Go manly

Not white anting. Passionate Manly fan for 30 years +. Call me a bit old school. But I like the Manly DNA to remain in the coaching ranks. Its nothing personal against Seibold, Manly has always had Manly DNA in their coaching. When it comes to Hoppa's kids, I reckon Hoppa Sr is largely responsible for their successful development not Seibold. We have had Peter Sharp in the past, didnt work. It's always taken an ex Manly player to bring it back and the stats prove it. I respect your opinion though.

 

[Rosko]

Looks like those 7 min review papers worked a treat! woot woot

Not a point I have seen anyone else make! And although I am a founder member of the ASC, so far you are right. If only we do not revert to our pre- 7 min review form this week...

 

[Kalvin]

My big problem with Tom going back to FB is that it pretty much ensures Reubs returns to centre as you can’t throw young Loppa in there at the back end of the season with no gameday experience…
Imo Tom is better at FB but Reubs is our best winger and we need Loppa in the team (and thankfully he is a bloody good FB)…

If Tom goes back to fb then I wouldn't mind seeing Talau going to centre with hoppa potentially taking saabs spot... but agree Ruben should remain on the wing!

 

[LeonardCohen]

You clown. I said his old man Hoppa Sr deserved most of the credit for his development, maybe read what I said before second guessing my posts. You made it seem like Seibs picked him up from nowhere like no one had heard of him. Maybe the fact that his brothers have already played NRL might give you a hint as to who is responsible for their development. I'd love for you to tell your contrast of opinion to Hoppa Sr' face when it comes to his son's development.

this idea that one person has been responsible and/or should be credited with a player’s development is a fallacy in itself. Every player lands in FG, having a history of junior coaches, sometimes dating back to u/6s. Many typically have fathers who love the game (often why the kid is registered in the first place) and drive them to matches on weekends and talk shop, etc.

Once they make NRL, the baton is handed to the coaching staff and the journey continues. So who really cares if it was his Dad or u/12s coach, or schoolboy footy coach, or Seibold that’s had the most influence…it changes nothing. He’s playing in a demanding position at a very young age and doing a fantastic job; he has a long list of people to thank for helping him get there.

 

[frank stokes]

this idea that one person has been responsible and/or should be credited with a player’s development is a fallacy in itself. Every player lands in FG, having a history of junior coaches, sometimes dating back to u/6s. Many typically have fathers who love the game (often why the kid is registered in the first place) and drive them to matches on weekends and talk shop, etc.

Once they make NRL, the baton is handed to the coaching staff and the journey continues. So who really cares if it was his Dad or u/12s coach, or schoolboy footy coach, or Seibold that’s had the most influence…it changes nothing. He’s playing in a demanding position at a very young age and doing a fantastic job; he has a long list of people to thank for helping him get there.

Agree… but NONE of those get blamed when the player has a sh*t game…

NRL coaches really are on a hiding to nothing..

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Not a point I have seen anyone else make! And although I am a founder member of the ASC, so far you are right. If only we do not revert to our pre- 7 min review form this week...

If we do, a 3 or 4 minute refresher should do the trick.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

NRL coaches really are on a hiding to nothing..

Yeah but it's such a highly sought-after role... must be an upside in there somewhere!