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Didn't even occur to me till I read your post, but would Tooves do it? And would Des have him? Would be undeniably awesome to have him back in the fold
The game has changed and the top teams now are the coaches who have evolved with the changes... i love Tooves and would like to see him back involved with the club but i think we need some "new/fresh" thinking to even out the "oldschool" coaching mentality (being Des)
 
It seems to me that in most companies, there’s some thought put into succession planning. So why wouldn’t we be looking at developing some former players with coaching potential? We all that know that, having some sort of connection to club, particularly as a former player, tends to work best.
Des has been a very successful coach and I don’t think it’s beyond him to be successful again. So we may not necessarily need them to be ready to take over in the next few years but we should at least be prepared.
 
A good mate of mine that knows Kitey, said he would love to get involved with the club again
He did a great job up here with the Tweed Heads Raiders 1st grade squad.
The only problem I can see is wether he will want to come back to the big smoke. From all reports he and his family love it up here.
But he’d definitely be my pick as assistant coach.
 
I hope that Des selects a player in touch with the modern game as its important to have some fresh ideas in the coaching box. Id love to see the Stewart brothers involved as they get our culture and I think they have a feel for the modern game.
I think The Walker Brothers fit the criteria here.
They are free-thinkers and young enough to relate the current players.
And Ben Walker played 26 matches for us.... (no correspondence entered into, thank you)... and was the season's equal leading point scorer with 279 points, including 17 tries. Imagine one of our current team scoring that many tries in a season!
 
I think The Walker Brothers fit the criteria here.
They are free-thinkers and young enough to relate the current players.
And Ben Walker played 26 matches for us.... (no correspondence entered into, thank you)... and was the season's equal leading point scorer with 279 points, including 17 tries. Imagine one of our current team scoring that many tries in a season!
Ben was greasy in first stint but rubbish in the 2nd
 
Toovey was a great servant of the club, but having him back in the fold might be ‘A bridge too far’ for the current owners.

It was one thing to have a dissatisfied coach leave for blue and white pastures, sadly it was another thing again to have a coach on the books that backed the previous co-owners.

Some on here have suggested that Glenn Stewart was the brains behind a lot of Manly’s attacking plays during that era. I think Toovey would make a great CEO or CFO, but again the issues with the Penns come to the fore.

I have long suspected that Brad Arthur’s defensive coaching was a huge ingredient in the charge to the 2013 GF, only for flawed tactics (not taking easy penalty shots when they were on offer) in the semi-final versus the Roosters, to cruel our premiership chances. Manly played right into the Roosters trap in the first game and ran out of puff in the second, courtesy of an extra game versus Souths. Toovey (as head coach) owns those mistakes.
 
Im Going to reply to my own comment and in true silvertails tradition start an argument with myself.

After finding this.


I afraid Des and the walkers would be like oil and water. Not compatible...

However a small part of me (no todger jokes) would like to see if they could meet in the middle somewhere.
A person who is highly regarded in the sporting industry told me once you hire who you need
 
With Gift believe he back down wollongong with Family depends if he want to commute certainly a great tactical player killer another who be a good coach prospect but he a Bush boy doubting he want to move back to city
 
Dean Young hasn't been marched from Dragons, but is apparently in demand with lots of good things said about him.

Tooves would be available, see him at woolies on his way home from his current day job all the time at Narra. And he's a Manly hero. Any reason he wouldn't be considered?

Fresh ideas might be good though... hard one.
I very much doubt the Penns would have Tooves back at Brookie
 
Im Going to reply to my own comment and in true silvertails tradition start an argument with myself.

After finding this.


I afraid Des and the walkers would be like oil and water. Not compatible...

However a small part of me (no todger jokes) would like to see if they could meet in the middle somewhere.
Did Ben play under Des?
Anyway they are the Yang to Des' Yin. Maybe as consultants but no way Des would have them on staff, much to my disapproval.
 
It seems to me that in most companies, there’s some thought put into succession planning. So why wouldn’t we be looking at developing some former players with coaching potential? We all that know that, having some sort of connection to club, particularly as a former player, tends to work best.
Des has been a very successful coach and I don’t think it’s beyond him to be successful again. So we may not necessarily need them to be ready to take over in the next few years but we should at least be prepared.
I assumed (dangerous I know) that Monas was brought in as succession planning. What exactly is a pathways and specialist coach anyway? Sounds a bit like player recruitment, strategy and skills development. AKA head coach.
 
Anthony Siebold was his assistant when we were at our peak, would love to re-unite the two.
 
Bring in The Walker Brothers to add diversity and excitement into our play.
could anyone see Des with his control issues having the walker bros. by his side with the style they like.
that being said if they bring sam with them from the rorters it could be worth it
 
Toovey was a great servant of the club, but having him back in the fold might be ‘A bridge too far’ for the current owners.

It was one thing to have a dissatisfied coach leave for blue and white pastures, sadly it was another thing again to have a coach on the books that backed the previous co-owners.

Some on here have suggested that Glenn Stewart was the brains behind a lot of Manly’s attacking plays during that era. I think Toovey would make a great CEO or CFO, but again the issues with the Penns come to the fore.

I have long suspected that Brad Arthur’s defensive coaching was a huge ingredient in the charge to the 2013 GF, only for flawed tactics (not taking easy penalty shots when they were on offer) in the semi-final versus the Roosters, to cruel our premiership chances. Manly played right into the Roosters trap in the first game and ran out of puff in the second, courtesy of an extra game versus Souths. Toovey (as head coach) owns those mistakes.

Drawing a long bow with that one chief RE flawed tactics. That 4-0 early-finals loss to the Rooters was an intense game and I don't recall any squandered penalty goals, just a speculator try the Rooters were very lucky to score on a kick-chase bounce of ball, else was a defensive exhibition with neither side cracking the full 80. Like Bulldogs/Parra in the mid-80s with higher skill-cap.

2nd-half comeback on Souths in Semis was all-time - like 2nd half vs cowboys 2011 where we just mauled them 42-0 2nd half. Was it Toovey? Was it the players? Isn't that the question every game?
 

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