ASADA Going Shark Fishing

ifernolan said:
Matty John's allegedly tweeted that Hasler was giving PED's to Manly and Bulldogs players. 17 Manly players possibly to go, 2 premierships to be stripped.

Make of that what you will, considering the messenger.

Fancy matty johns talking about hes BROTHERS team like this?????? he must be so jealous of hes brother because all he seems to do is BAG MANLY.....
 
MadMarcus said:
ifernolan said:
Matty John's allegedly tweeted that Hasler was giving PED's to Manly and Bulldogs players. 17 Manly players possibly to go, 2 premierships to be stripped.

Make of that what you will, considering the messenger.

Thank god. Now we can all relax.

How do you "allegedly" tweet something? Either u do or u don't
 
strone33 said:
MadMarcus said:
ifernolan said:
Matty John's allegedly tweeted that Hasler was giving PED's to Manly and Bulldogs players. 17 Manly players possibly to go, 2 premierships to be stripped.

Make of that what you will, considering the messenger.

Thank god. Now we can all relax.

How do you "allegedly" tweet something? Either u do or u don't
if it has been tweeted(is that a word?) can someone who follows that crap upload it?
 
A google search doesn't even show up Matt Johns having a twitter page

Apparently 30 names have been mentioned, 14 at Cronulla + 17 here doesn't add up let alone adding Dogs players into that, so we can toss that one into the bin I think
 
Kiwi Eagle said:
A google search doesn't even show up Matt Johns having a twitter page

Apparently 30 names have been mentioned, 14 at Cronulla + 17 here doesn't add up let alone adding Dogs players into that, so we can toss that one into the bin I think

What if the 30 names were the top 25 at Cronulla plus extras or NSW cup/U20's players from Cronulla too? That would make sense, all one club then
 
Any rumours about Manly being stripped of premierships are nothing but wishful thinking on the part of the Manly-hating public. Seriously, some dickhead posts something on Facebook or Twitter and people believe it…
Again, relax and have some faith in our club.
 
You'd imagine the names would come from all clubs

If we go through what we actually know as fact

- we are a club mentioned in the report, and Dank spent time here

- The club complied with everything straight away, with the CEO declaring we were "Low to Medium" risk

- Donny Singe publicly stated he oversees everything that the players put into themselves and has never seen an issue

Those last 2 points there give me confidence that we won't be a major player in all this, low to medium risk hardly implies a premiership will be taken away. But there is that touch of nervousness there about it all if we are being completely honest

On top of that, Tooves seems a straight up bloke so happy to take his word. Also if we compare our actions and reactions there to what the Sharks produced I think the Sharks knew they were in trouble
 
Kiwi Eagle said:
You'd imagine the names would come from all clubs

If we go through what we actually know as fact

- we are a club mentioned in the report, and Dank spent time here

- The club complied with everything straight away, with the CEO declaring we were "Low to Medium" risk

- Donny Singe publicly stated he oversees everything that the players put into themselves and has never seen an issue

Those last 2 points there give me confidence that we won't be a major player in all this, low to medium risk hardly implies a premiership will be taken away. But there is that touch of nervousness there about it all if we are being completely honest

On top of that, Tooves seems a straight up bloke so happy to take his word. Also if we compare our actions and reactions there to what the Sharks produced I think the Sharks knew they were in trouble


Well said, keep calm people
 
The "tweet" was a post on a facebook page titled 'The Matty Johns Show' which i guess someone created at the time his show was being aired.

Matt Johns has stated many times he doesn't use social media.

I doubt there's much to worry about.
 
Well ultimately I guess we are back to the 'old days' and every player's manager is going to say "I don't care what they say, you take nothing", which ultimately is probably a good thing for the game anyway.

I played a pretty senior level of RU when I was younger, for a lot of years, but at Fingal Bay, I was astonished how big the guys are, being up so close to them. That's not to say they have done anything wrong, but 15 years ago when I was playing, had I lined up against most of these guys, I would have thought 'Holy F...'.

They're big guys, even Sam Short (NYC half back) and Chisholm, they're legs are about 50% of my waist, and my partner calls me overweight!

Every team is looking for some sort of advantage because the salary cap basically (or should) even out teams across the competition in terms of playing personnel.

Then it comes down to the coach and fitness/health regimes.

So, we all know the benefit of a good coach and how they can transform a good team (Gibson, Bennet, Bellamy and Hasler) into a great team.

But every coach is looking for an edge, that little thing that will provide the miniscule advantage to extend the level of fitness/energy to win a game, particularly in the last 15 minutes.

Interestingly, when Dank was with us in his last year, the guys would go out on absolute fire and then fade in the latter second half. No wonder they got rid of him but, to his credit, he did introduce GPS training monitoring which is used by most clubs now.

In 2011, when Dank worked with Cronulla and they supposedly used Peptides. The Sharks came 13th. 13 of 16 for F..ks sake. Yep, peptides really worked for them!

In 2012 they came 7th, but no one is questionning 2012 (and the fact they had Carney) what the players took in 2012! Give me a f...g break! We go from 13th to 7th but we're worried about what they took when they came 13th?

It's all BS to me and apparent innocent people are having their lives ruined by this. It's not like Lance Armstrong who came first due to EPO usage, we're talking about a team that cam 4th last!

I don't have an answer to the apparent problem but I just think it's all BS and if Dank is the problem, ban him, but everyone else seems to be the fall guy at the moment.

Given the circumstances, I just cannot see the Sharks surviving from this. Although the board had sacked people, why would any major business want to be associated with them?

I do not think we have heard the last of this from the players association and there could be serious ramifications if more players from other clubs are implicated.

It's a really sad day for the NRL and all NRL fans. I cannot imagine any fan feeling glee, like they may have done when Melbourne were stripped of their points.

The whole thing is just bizzare.
 
Kiwi Eagle said:
A google search doesn't even show up Matt Johns having a twitter page

Apparently 30 names have been mentioned, 14 at Cronulla + 17 here doesn't add up let alone adding Dogs players into that, so we can toss that one into the bin I think

I think its 47 players. 17 retired. 14 currently at the Sharks and 8 former Sharks players. That leaves 8 players who I'm guessing are in some way connected to the other 5 clubs that were named (including us) a few weeks ago.
 
The sky is falling...... This is the best rumour generating event I've seen for years. Not since Superleague has there been so much drama.
 
Masked Eagle said:
Kiwi Eagle said:
A google search doesn't even show up Matt Johns having a twitter page

Apparently 30 names have been mentioned, 14 at Cronulla + 17 here doesn't add up let alone adding Dogs players into that, so we can toss that one into the bin I think

I think its 47 players. 17 retired. 14 currently at the Sharks and 8 former Sharks players. That leaves 8 players who I'm guessing are in some way connected to the other 5 clubs that were named (including us) a few weeks ago.

so what Sharks players are/were with us in the last few years
Only link is Dank
 
Masked Eagle said:
Kiwi Eagle said:
A google search doesn't even show up Matt Johns having a twitter page

Apparently 30 names have been mentioned, 14 at Cronulla + 17 here doesn't add up let alone adding Dogs players into that, so we can toss that one into the bin I think

I think its 47 players. 17 retired. 14 currently at the Sharks and 8 former Sharks players. That leaves 8 players who I'm guessing are in some way connected to the other 5 clubs that were named (including us) a few weeks ago.

Someone has to have some common sense with this. Would every player deliberately ingest an illegal substance? Surely there would be at least 1 or 2 who would question it or for religious or health beliefs at least.

This is what i would like David Smith to do:

"Unfortunately it has become apparent that we have had a situation whereby a number of players in the game have been mislead by an an official club individual that substances he, with club approval, has asked them to consume, which were in fact illegal. The players on their part consumed the substances at the advice of the official club individual and so have no case to answer. The official who has been a constant in our investigations has been banned from any future association with our game and the relevant clubs fined for lack of due care to the players. I would like to reinforce our policy of a drug free sport and warn players to be cautious of any substance they may be encouraged to take from anyone they think they may trust."
 
Plenty of rumors about manly and stripped premierships, mates on Facebook, text messages, twitter, surely not right?? How could this have any truth?
 

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