2026 recruitment & retention

I'd only get him as a second-rower/lock. The money is not there for him, so he'll try to be a half for as long as he possibly can. A bit like Schuster.
 
No doubt with Tedesco and sure like many other Manly fans was really hoping and part expecting that Turbo 's career , just like Teddy 's , could see him overcoming the earlier run of serious injury and then have a relatively injury free career .
Guess that there is some hope [ or maybe wishful thinking ] that with Turbo at 28 or so now , can still turn things around for the remainder of his career but unfortunately can not be a given of course and again if only it could be
It would be great if Turbo could be injury-free for the remainder of his NRL career but let's face it, that's not going to happen. Turbo will be known as Manly's version of Tim Moltzen, unfortunately.
 
So with Brooks, Turbo and Jurbo off contract in 2027 (none of whom will be worth close to their current deals come extension time). DCE gone. Even Jamal for 2026 & 2027 for $500k... we are going to have some serious money available.

Galvin as a 6 or 13 on a million+ (presumably with an increased salary cap by then) is not an unrealistic prospect from 2027.
 
It blows my mind to have to say this, but we are now in the position where Josh Aloiai - Oshay Olay - is our best front rower. That is not good. Not good at all.
Yep i think the loss of Paseka has been perhaps a bit underestimated on here in general. We've gone from a fringe top 4 team, to maybe missing the 8 on the back of that in my opinion (obviously the turbo injury and DCE stuff is a contributor)
 
Think that a big factor still has to be just how much value for money clubs can get from their highest paid or premium level type players .
Seems to be a given for instance in the Storm's case with Munster , Hughes , Grant and Pappy regularly performing to a high level and a relative good availability on the injury front .
Then compared with Manly and serious issues with Turbo "s regular unavailability and even when he is playing , hampered by injury .
Jake for all of his commitment and still solid defence , nowhere near his 950 K or so pay grade . D C E on balance and over time , just not warranting his pay packet .
Haumole the only one really justifying his now considerable and elite type contract level .
Mid level guys like Garrick , Tent , Brooks and Koula generally good value for money , Alioia not so of course .
Plenty of other comparisons with other clubs and other considerations with superior junior systems but again in Manly 's case , just have not and continue not to be getting the required value for money out of their main grouping of top tier players
Have you not heard of Pappy's injuries? I've not checked the figures but he must have missed close to as many games as Tom over the last 3-4 years. Hughes and Munster have also had their own injury problems. The difference is they have effective backup players.
 
Yep i think the loss of Paseka has been perhaps a bit underestimated on here in general. We've gone from a fringe top 4 team, to maybe missing the 8 on the back of that in my opinion (obviously the turbo injury and DCE stuff is a contributor)
He is a huge out, there is hardly any punch up the middle without him, Bully yes, Aloiai he has been good the last two games, TKO he goes okay, the other middles look at their post contact meters and that will tell you how much aggression they are running with.

No punch in the middle lacks space for the edges, hence how lateral they have been with the ball.
 
Have you not heard of Pappy's injuries? I've not checked the figures but he must have missed close to as many games as Tom over the last 3-4 years. Hughes and Munster have also had their own injury problems. The difference is they have effective backup players.
Hard to compare the Storm roster to ours, or anyone else’s for that matter. They are far and away the best side in the comp this year and it’s not really close. I would easily take Lehi over Fa’alogo or whoever else they have as Papi’s backup, but that’s not really the point as they still have Munster, Hughes and Grant and are likely to never have 3-4 of them out at the same time. Maybe during origin time or at the end of the year when they are rested, but I doubt they care when they’re winning 90% of their games anyway.

We have built our roster around the top few players like they have, but Jake and particularly DCE just haven’t been able to produce wins without Tom. That, and their recruitment with the rest of their roster is on another level to ours. While we are chasing slow, old washed up forwards they are signing younger players with potential for unders (Katoa, Stefano, Blore, King) or developing and playing the young guys they already have in their system (Loiero, MacDonald, Kamikamica). We won’t even give someone like Navale a go while players like Waddell and Sipley are playing regular first grade! That’s been the biggest blight on Seibold’s regime so far IMO
 
Hard to compare the Storm roster to ours, or anyone else’s for that matter. They are far and away the best side in the comp this year and it’s not really close. I would easily take Lehi over Fa’alogo or whoever else they have as Papi’s backup, but that’s not really the point as they still have Munster, Hughes and Grant and are likely to never have 3-4 of them out at the same time. Maybe during origin time or at the end of the year when they are rested, but I doubt they care when they’re winning 90% of their games anyway.

We have built our roster around the top few players like they have, but Jake and particularly DCE just haven’t been able to produce wins without Tom. That, and their recruitment with the rest of their roster is on another level to ours. While we are chasing slow, old washed up forwards they are signing younger players with potential for unders (Katoa, Stefano, Blore, King) or developing and playing the young guys they already have in their system (Loiero, MacDonald, Kamikamica). We won’t even give someone like Navale a go while players like Waddell and Sipley are playing regular first grade! That’s been the biggest blight on Seibold’s regime so far IMO
Agree with what you're saying. The key nowadays is to have a good spine ( including a dynamic hooker) and the rest of the team needs to be fit, lean and mobile. The storm do seem to take an average player and make them look like a world beater just because they play well in their system. The same can also be said of Penrith
 

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