eagleron
Bencher
Agreed Eagle1, what's the difference, whether it's a hammer or a knife they're both likely to kill you
2023 ... players in trouble ..breaking
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That's the way I see it also, bit surprised Fainu's Lawyer didn't push for it to be dealt with in a local court rather than a District Court. Could of shaved a few years of his sentence, just sayin..
That wasn't an option with Manase's charge. Intentional wounding or grievous bodily harm always has to go to District COurt.
Yet, Amone was charged with the same thing, "grievous bodily harm" in a hammer attack on a Tradesperson. And he went to a Local Court...?? not disputing your take on this and pointing out all the legalities and what court people are supposed to be tried in. But really think Manase was hard done by in the end.
I always encourage people not to jump to conclusions when a player is charged! The Brett Stewart case surely was enough for folks to realise an early media report may be nothing like what actually happened when all the evidence is out.
As to the charges, from memory Amone was charged with a 'reckless' offence, meaning you know your action might result in harm and you do it anyway. Manase's was intentional, no surprise given it was plunging a knife into someone's back. 'Oh I'm awfully sorry, i thought you were my medium rare steak'.
You can take it up with parliament if you like, they consider 'intentional' more serious then 'reckless' (max penalties 25 years vs 14 years)
As to the charges, from memory Amone was charged with a 'reckless' offence, meaning you know your action might result in harm and you do it anyway. Manase's was intentional, no surprise given it was plunging a knife into someone's back. 'Oh I'm awfully sorry, i thought you were my medium rare steak'.
You can take it up with parliament if you like, they consider 'intentional' more serious then 'reckless' (max penalties 25 years vs 14 years)
If you read the article, unless the reporter got it all wrong, states, charged with Grievous Bodily Harm. The same charge as Fainu.I always encourage people not to jump to conclusions when a player is charged! The Brett Stewart case surely was enough for folks to realise an early media report may be nothing like what actually happened when all the evidence is out.
As to the charges, from memory Amone was charged with a 'reckless' offence, meaning you know your action might result in harm and you do it anyway. Manase's was intentional, no surprise given it was plunging a knife into someone's back. 'Oh I'm awfully sorry, i thought you were my medium rare steak'.
You can take it up with parliament if you like, they consider 'intentional' more serious then 'reckless' (max penalties 25 years vs 14 years)
The article says:
"Amone charged with reckless grievous bodily harm, intimidation, and destroying property."
As I suggested in my earlier post, if you look up Fainu's case you might find he was charged with doing his act intentionally, which is far more serious than 'recklessly'.
If you think his penalty was too harsh you're quite entitled to your opinion of course.
with intent
reckless
CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 33 Wounding or grievous bodily harm with intent
www.austlii.edu.au
reckless
CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 35 Reckless grievous bodily harm or wounding
www.austlii.edu.au
I take your point, but in Amone's case, attacking someone with a hammer is...intention to hit someone with a dangerous weapon. How can this be classified as... reckless. Who judges these decisions.
Mate .. just say .. "yes dear" ..
Shoe1
Journey Man
You've landed the killer blow .. in the argument
The cops in charge of the investigation decide what charge to lay.
Then if the cops have laid a serious charge the DPP take over and decide what the appropriate charges should be.
It's M.C. Hammer v Mac the Knife
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Both seem like tools.
Nordburg
Bencher
No doubt Ferguson will pay for the black eye he gave the game numerous times in his careerAnd now ... for something a bit different ....
Not behaving badly ... but giving a gold medal performance of a class A tool ... is
Which black eye has he not already paid for?
He's talking about the 12 month limit on the game paying for surgeries to correct injuries from playing.
Which is what Iassah Yeo, DCE and the entire player body is demanding right now, doesn't make any of them tools that I can see.
You're not looking hard enough ..
Whilst many have legitimate and reasonable expectations to be looked after following retirement ... this blokes injuries weren't bad enough to stop him going to Japanese rugby and then the ESl after the NRL ... or get it fixed within the current time parameters.
He earned nearly $10 million playing Rugby league and is whingeing about paying for a nose job that 1000 amateur players pay for themselves every year ...
If the numbnut is broke he can get it done on Medicare.
Whilst your comrades at group think command may believe he is a champion of the downtrodden masses ... and cheer his name as an ideological hero ...
I'll stick with he's a tool .
ElectricEagle
Reserve Grader
I think he has a case to be made for getting his nose fixed. I mean he clearly busted it playing for Roosters? Or was is Parramatta? Either way he could argue that it was directly caused by the game he played.
But yes he's a tool.
But yes he's a tool.
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