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Mark from Brisbane

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The pricing for “other games “ needs to be known before people blow a poofer valve.

If the prices remain the same for all games then yes complain loudly but if there are some lower prices coming for other games then who knows it may even out.

Not sure if this is a fair comment or not , if these are the prices for every game then yes I can see why people have the issues they do.
 

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Honestly! Giving this weak excuse that the club needs the money so we are forced to put up the prices. I don't think they understand that family's and members like the Kasmar's have pledged and given them over $2000 for a couple of games last year. That seems to be completely lost on them.

I said it already that If they are struggling financially it is purely through their own shambolic business management, lack of innovation, value for money and poor customer relations. This is just the latest in a long line of dumb Penn business strategies when it comes to the club. There is a distinct lack of true business acumen at the ownership level at the club. If you listen to Rick Penn's club business podcast, it will tell you he basically fell into lucky business outcomes for most of his business career and probably through access to money and privilege, Scott then just got gifted the farm. It explains why we churn through CEO’s like they are casual waiting staff, after they obviously realise that they can't change their business mentality. Lyall Gorman seemed to know how to drag the Penn's into a smarter decisions and get results but it looks like Humphries either believes his own crap or he just wants to keep the Penn's happy. Either way 2021 is going to be financially crippling for the club because people will vote with their feet and although we are all loyal members to the club, not everyone is and I feel the fringe members will abandon the club and will be very hard for the club to get them back. Looks like any losses will be blamed on Covid when in actual fact it is poor management. The fact that Humphries is mentioning they have hit 9000 members and had a great take up for the 1500 tickets on sale is laughable, when memberships are really down on this time last year. Once again Manly fans are forced into being labelled whiners because we constantly have to fight with the club for simple basics that other clubs manage to achieve easily.

Sometimes I think the Penn's are negative gearing the club for tax purposes so they don’t want growth or profit.
 
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Honestly! Giving this weak excuse that the club needs the money so we are forced to put up the prices. I don't think they understand that family's and members like the Kasmar's have pledged and given them over $2000 for a couple of games last year. That seems to be completely lost on them.

I said it already that If they are struggling financially it is purely through their own shambolic business management, lack of innovation, value for money and poor customer relations. This is just the latest in a long line of dumb Penn business strategies when it comes to the club. There is a distinct lack of true business acumen at the ownership level at the club. If you listen to Rick Penn's club business podcast, it will tell you he basically fell into lucky business outcomes for most of his business career and probably through access to money and privilege, Scott then just got gifted the farm. It explains why we churn through CEO’s like they are casual waiting staff, after they obviously realise that they can't change their business mentality. Lyall Gorman seemed to know how to drag the Penn's into a smarter decisions and get results but it looks like Humphries either believes his own crap or he just wants to keep the Penn's happy. Either way 2021 is going to be financially crippling for the club because people will vote with their feet and although we are all loyal members to the club, not everyone is and I feel the fringe members will abandon the club and will be very hard for the club to get them back. Looks like any losses will be blamed on Covid when in actual fact it is poor management. The fact that Humphries is mentioning they have hit 9000 members and had a great take up for the 1500 tickets on sale is laughable, when memberships are really down on this time last year. Once again Manly fans are forced into being labelled whiners because we constantly have to fight with the club for simple basics that other clubs manage to achieve easily.

Sometimes I think the Penn's are negative gearing the club for tax purposes so they don’t want growth or profit.
If the Penns are struggling for money there is a simple solution: sell the club. It's what every business and family would have to do if they needed a cash injection -- sell an asset.
 

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The pricing for “other games “ needs to be known before people blow a poofer valve.

If the prices remain the same for all games then yes complain loudly but if there are some lower prices coming for other games then who knows it may even out.

Not sure if this is a fair comment or not , if these are the prices for every game then yes I can see why people have the issues they do.

feels like I haven’t blown my poofer valve in a while.

maybe #nextweek
 

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75 Membership price increased to $100.......is that correct? WTF?
 

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I thought you’d made a mistake but no it’s now $100.
 

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I thought you’d made a mistake but no it’s now $100.
I thought so too. Wow! So people were upset about higher prices and they raise the initial price? Do we even have a marketing/PR department?
 

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Honestly! Giving this weak excuse that the club needs the money so we are forced to put up the prices. I don't think they understand that family's and members like the Kasmar's have pledged and given them over $2000 for a couple of games last year. That seems to be completely lost on them.

I said it already that If they are struggling financially it is purely through their own shambolic business management, lack of innovation, value for money and poor customer relations. This is just the latest in a long line of dumb Penn business strategies when it comes to the club. There is a distinct lack of true business acumen at the ownership level at the club. If you listen to Rick Penn's club business podcast, it will tell you he basically fell into lucky business outcomes for most of his business career and probably through access to money and privilege, Scott then just got gifted the farm. It explains why we churn through CEO’s like they are casual waiting staff, after they obviously realise that they can't change their business mentality. Lyall Gorman seemed to know how to drag the Penn's into a smarter decisions and get results but it looks like Humphries either believes his own crap or he just wants to keep the Penn's happy. Either way 2021 is going to be financially crippling for the club because people will vote with their feet and although we are all loyal members to the club, not everyone is and I feel the fringe members will abandon the club and will be very hard for the club to get them back. Looks like any losses will be blamed on Covid when in actual fact it is poor management. The fact that Humphries is mentioning they have hit 9000 members and had a great take up for the 1500 tickets on sale is laughable, when memberships are really down on this time last year. Once again Manly fans are forced into being labelled whiners because we constantly have to fight with the club for simple basics that other clubs manage to achieve easily.

Sometimes I think the Penn's are negative gearing the club for tax purposes so they don’t want growth or profit.
Happy Healthy new year feathered friend
Let me show you life from a positive and passionate perspective ....

Your quote of our owners weak excuse of the impact covid had on our game is astonishing

News headlines like these did not come from Dr. Seuss fairy tail books

NRL plunged into 'financial crisis' as season is suspended in response to Covid-19​


The Penn is mightier than your sword of complete Nonsence and Negativity

Over the years sponsors and part owners have pulled the plug from NRL clubs and the game and invested in more lucrative markets but Penn is still with us and we are rebuilding and on coarse for another premiership this decade
In these tough economic times many mediocre business people have gone Broke but Penn has proven that he is not one of them and unlike some supporters like you I have never heard him whinge .He keeps on Soldiering on !

The moral of the story ...
The Whingers will always whinge and will always feel unrest
and the Passionate and Grateful supporters will always feel Blessed
Let us all look at the Big picture and be grateful that we have club to support in the NRL
Because I can tell you for a fact I have friends that are Bears supporters that would
give anything to be in our clubs standing in the NRL

Have a great day and look at the glass half full and stop whinging and start to smell the roses and feel good and grateful for all the things that you have in your life

$100 for 75 years of blood sweat and tears is bloody good value for money
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If the NRL has been "plunged into financial crisis" it's because players and coaches are being overpaid. Clubs and the NRL should not expect fans to bail them out.
For example: Does Brisbane really need to pay Darius hundreds of thousands of dollars to be a "back's coach"?
Are players really worth $1m+ a season?
 

Mark from Brisbane

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If the NRL has been "plunged into financial crisis" it's because players and coaches are being overpaid. Clubs and the NRL should not expect fans to bail them out.
For example: Does Brisbane really need to pay Darius hundreds of thousands of dollars to be a "back's coach"?
Are players really worth $1m+ a season?

The money paid is all linked to the TV broadcast $$$, I wonder if this mightn’t be wound back in the years to come ?
 

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Only 1 of my 2 membership packs has turned up. As anyone else had long delays between packs arriving??
 

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I've been a vocal critic of the 2021 membership and ticket pricing.

At the recent football club AGM , I asked direct questions to Stephen Humphries, the clubs CEO as to why people are being asked to pay nearly double the price for tickets? It had left me bewildered as to why prices are so high, especially during these pandemic times?

He explained the current situation. Brookvale oval capacity capped at 11k due to the centre of excellence being built means less spectators means less match day revenue.

He specifically said that 2022 membership would revert back to the 2020 model with inflation rises.

I said to him if its a money issue, why won't the club allow season ticket holders to purchase a membership for the 9 games at Brooky upfront? He said the concern was that they don't know if covid will interfere with crowd numbers.

He mentioned that the club is run on a shoestring budget and over the last year jobkeeper has kept the club alive

It was interesting listening to this.

For this season ive decided to see probably 5 games at Brooky and the game in Gosford as home games and some away games in Sydney where we 4 games that are time and location friendly for me .

For me next season will be a test of the CEO's word about pricing and also keep in mind that if Brooky gets the approval to upgrade we will not be playing there while its being done .

I don't like the prices for this year, I however accept that for this season its necessary and if Brooky is allowed to have full capacity later this year that the club is flexible and fair to the fans and members who want to see live footy!!
 

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If it is true the club is "run on a shoestring budget" then why do the owners continue to knock back alleged offers to purchase the club?
 

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If it is true the club is "run on a shoestring budget" then why do the owners continue to knock back alleged offers to purchase the club?
The passionless ones that have no idea about passion for our Legendary club ask this
question ...

Why do the owners continue to knock back alleged offers to purchase the club?

Answer ..... Because some things in life are Priceless and our Legendary club is one of them

To all the ones that put a price on our Legendary club and do not see the real value of our beloved Manly Sea eagles competing in the NRL

Go and watch the North Sydney bears club in the NSW Cup comp and save your selves some money and take it to your graves
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I've been a vocal critic of the 2021 membership and ticket pricing.

At the recent football club AGM , I asked direct questions to Stephen Humphries, the clubs CEO as to why people are being asked to pay nearly double the price for tickets? It had left me bewildered as to why prices are so high, especially during these pandemic times?

He explained the current situation. Brookvale oval capacity capped at 11k due to the centre of excellence being built means less spectators means less match day revenue.

Brookie capacity was around 18,000 before the construction at the northern end

From the photos of the works, I fail to see how that has shaved 7,000 off the total capacity of the ground?

The new stand only has 3,000 seats, so that means 14,000 will be the new capacity.... Gee whiz
 

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Brookie capacity was around 18,000 before the construction at the northern end

From the photos of the works, I fail to see how that has shaved 7,000 off the total capacity of the ground?

The new stand only has 3,000 seats, so that means 14,000 will be the new capacity.... Gee whiz

Not under current Covid distancing restrictions.
 

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