2014 Rumoured and confirmed signings.

[Pepi]

Bloody Roosters. Mind you we have been doing this on a smaller scale with Hodkinson, Whare, T Rex, Chee Kam, Hiku and Sao.
Some pay off and some don't. I think Warwick is doing a great job on limited resources.

 

[Darren]

Roosters have a kid at fullback Latrell Mitchell who they recruited from north coast is absolute dynamite. The guy who told me this said that they have changed their spending to literally buying the top juniors in the nrl teams. They probably didn't go after Tom T as they have Mitchell but Taylor is another big signing.

 

[Simonmyers11]

I heard from a very reliable source whose son is in Flegg at another club that Roosters are now identifying the top 2-3 kids at each club and making big plays at them. Literally skimming the cream of the crop.

Hopefully not our crop...which looks promising. Smart thinking though..

If it's true very smart

 

[tookey]

Roosters have a kid at fullback Latrell Mitchell who they recruited from north coast is absolute dynamite. The guy who told me this said that they have changed their spending to literally buying the top juniors in the nrl teams. They probably didn't go after Tom T as they have Mitchell but Taylor is another big signing.

I heard that Tom T knocked back an offer of $170k a season from the raiders to stay at Manly

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Bloody Roosters. Mind you we have been doing this on a smaller scale with Hodkinson, Whare, T Rex, Chee Kam, Hiku and Sao.
Some pay off and some don't. I think Warwick is doing a great job on limited resources.

Also JWH, who was a boom recruit from rugby.

 

[RiverEagle]

I'm disappointed (losin' Taylor) but I'll back Warwick and co. still at this point.

Apart from a top-heavy roster still (Choc or Skivi are not confirmed as "gone" yet) and blokes like TRed, Ferris, Hiku and JSL, to name a few come before the "kids" still too right now.

And we've done the same folks : Hodges, Hiku and Sao, Chee Kam, JLJ, Rudolph, Iosefea, Satini and even blokes like Tyson Andrews, Berryman and Blake Leary (a bit older but proven at a higher level than Holden Cup) have been bought in recent times. *Hopefully Jake and Tom T AND Gutherson of course are kept and looked after long-term too.

But we can't sign and/or keep everyone.

Dave Warwick is as good as it gets recruitment-wise IMO. (We did finish equal 1st remember).

As for Lussick @Disco

How long was his deal for with Parra?? (2 or 3 yrs?). He can't even cement a 1st-grade gig there. I'd let him (and Whoppa) come home but for less than half what they're gettin' at Parra.

Rather re-sign Blair, have kept Harrisson and perhaps Paulo or Fui Fui now; if given the choice, I mean.

 

[Harry]

I'm disappointed (losin' Taylor) but I'll back Warwick and co. still at this point.

Apart from a top-heavy roster still (Choc or Skivi are not confirmed as "gone" yet) and blokes like TRed, Ferris, Hiku and JSL, to name a few come before the "kids" still too right now.

And we've done the same folks : Hodges, Hiku and Sao, Chee Kam, JLJ, Rudolph, Iosefea, Satini and even blokes like Tyson Andrews, Berryman and Blake Leary (a bit older but proven at a higher level than Holden Cup) have been bought in recent times. *Hopefully Jake and Tom T AND Gutherson of course are kept and looked after long-term too.

But we can't sign and/or keep everyone.

Dave Warwick is as good as it gets recruitment-wise IMO. (We did finish equal 1st remember).

As for Lussick @Disco

How long was his deal for with Parra?? (2 or 3 yrs?). He can't even cement a 1st-grade gig there. I'd let him (and Whoppa) come home but for less than half what they're gettin' at Parra.

Rather re-sign Blair, have kept Harrisson and perhaps Paulo or Fui Fui now; if given the choice, I mean.

Yes but you don't get rid of a born bred local junior who has been with the club since he was 14 and gone through the system and is a gun player just like any other talented local junior. These are the kids you look after not the imports

 

[RiverEagle]

I understand and agree with that @Harry

What I mean is (apart from how much the Rorters offered Charlie!) we can't keep everyone, nor offer "Monopoly" money-deals to young blokes (eg. look at how "well" Chee Kam has done so far). He was touted as a Raiders' young-gun set to go all the way. It's not automatically or even often true.

You know I support and want to keep as many local juniors here as we can mate.

The really good ones even moreso, obviously.

So I don't see it as us "getting rid of" a gun local junior.
Just that we may not have been able to compete with what the Rorters offered him right now. (If Manly had the money to look after Charlie, don't you think we would have?)

We don't cheat or rort the cap either.

We clearly couldn't match their deal; on top of who's ALREADY signed with Us for next year. He might've been "told" he'll play 1st-grade with them sooner, and so on, too. You know how these things work, Harry.

 

[Harry]

I understand and agree with that @Harry

What I mean is (apart from how much the Rorters offered Charlie!) we can't keep everyone, nor offer "Monopoly" money-deals to young blokes (eg. look at how "well" Chee Kam has done so far). He was touted as a Raiders' young-gun set to go all the way. It's not automatically or even often true.

You know I support and want to keep as many local juniors here as we can mate.

The really good ones even moreso, obviously.

So I don't see it as us "getting rid of" a gun local junior.
Just that we may not have been able to compete with what the Rorters offered him right now. (If Manly had the money to look after Charlie, don't you think we would have?)

We don't cheat or rort the cap either.

We clearly couldn't match their deal; on top of who's ALREADY signed with Us for next year. He might've been "told" he'll play 1st-grade with them sooner, and so on, too. You know how these things work, Harry.

Just hate seeing it happen

 

[RiverEagle]

Hopefully @Harry

We can still keep Gutherson, Jake and Tom T, JHopoate (and even Stig and Knight etc.) mate.

 

[Ralphie]

Hopefully @Harry

We can still keep Gutherson, Jake and Tom T, JHopoate (and even Stig and Knight etc.) mate.

This is the real point here. We really can't keep them all and if we can keep the ones above, plus pinch a few from others like we did with Hiku, Sao, Buhrer etc etc than we will have done pretty good.

The Chooks are no more professional than we are, they simply have more money.

 

[Nike]

@Harry are you Charlie's dad lmao?

 

[StuBoot]

I'm disappointed (losin' Taylor) but I'll back Warwick and co. still at this point.

Apart from a top-heavy roster still (Choc or Skivi are not confirmed as "gone" yet) and blokes like TRed, Ferris, Hiku and JSL, to name a few come before the "kids" still too right now.

And we've done the same folks : Hodges, Hiku and Sao, Chee Kam, JLJ, Rudolph, Iosefea, Satini and even blokes like Tyson Andrews, Berryman and Blake Leary (a bit older but proven at a higher level than Holden Cup) have been bought in recent times. *Hopefully Jake and Tom T AND Gutherson of course are kept and looked after long-term too.

But we can't sign and/or keep everyone.

Dave Warwick is as good as it gets recruitment-wise IMO. (We did finish equal 1st remember).

As for Lussick @Disco

How long was his deal for with Parra?? (2 or 3 yrs?). He can't even cement a 1st-grade gig there. I'd let him (and Whoppa) come home but for less than half what they're gettin' at Parra.

Rather re-sign Blair, have kept Harrisson and perhaps Paulo or Fui Fui now; if given the choice, I mean.

Yes but you don't get rid of a born bred local junior who has been with the club since he was 14 and gone through the system and is a gun player just like any other talented local junior. These are the kids you look after not the imports

Harry, look back over your posts.
You mentioned it was a "lucrative offer" by the Chooks and also that "quite a few clubs were after him" so it's not like we got rid of him.
I'm sure we tried to keep him but kids these days have managers telling them to take the dollars while they're on offer.

How much money do we offer to keep our U20's players?
History tells me that only a handful of U20's make it.
Look at our gun 20's from a few years ago, only Foz, DCE, Ferris and JWH are what you would call NRL stars, the only other one I can remember from that team was Lussick. We have three of those still with us and the other two we couldn't match the $$ at the time.

As far as I know we've re-signed Gutho and Tom T as well as Jake T so we can't keep them all, there is a 2nd tier salary cap too.
When Tom T re-signed there was talk that he was offered $170k elsewhere but stayed with us.

We've picked up Hiku and Satini from other club's U20's and both have played NRL - with Hiku cementing a spot probably earlier than expected - so it happens.

With our squad as it is he's a fair way down the pecking order as a winger at the moment - Wolfy, Taufua, Blair, Hiku, Gutho - and also centre.

He obviously sees more of a chance of NRL earlier with the Chooks as TVS will move to fullback next year, not sure who else they have coming through but it may be a position that they were short on and were prepared to pay overs. Just my opinion.

In an ideal world we'd all love to have our 1st Grade side full of locals but it doesn't happen anymore.

 

[Darren]

Roosters have Latrell Mitchell as a gun fullback coming so this will make it interesting.

 

[StuBoot]

Roosters have Latrell Mitchell as a gun fullback coming so this will make it interesting.

TBH, I can't see either of them being regular 1st graders next year, maybe a handful of games each. Like most NYC guns, they can score tries but it's the defensive duties that finds them out.

 

[RiverEagle]

Roosters have Latrell Mitchell as a gun fullback coming so this will make it interesting.

TBH, I can't see either of them being regular 1st graders next year, maybe a handful of games each. Like most NYC guns, they can score tries but it's the defensive duties that finds them out.

Charlie is a specialist centre anyway. (Has played fullback and wing at times) but I believe he repped at centre.

I know it's all part of the business-side, and we've done it too; it just gives me the massive irrits that it was the Rorters that persuaded him over. (Even the Northern Beaches must be as good if not better than Bondi!).

And as said, with SBW and Minichello gone, there may be legit cash to splash. Fair enough. *I also feel if a local junior doesn't want to wait a year or two in our system for a shot at seniors, let him go.

 

[Bearfax]

(Even the Northern Beaches must be as good if not better than Bondi!).

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Most over rated beach on Sydney's foreshores. Bondi is a boring mass of sand with little character in the adjacent street. Manly (the Steyne/Queenscliffe) with the pine foreshores, the Corso and Harbour make Bondi look like a windswept puddle between two sets of rocks. In fact most of the northern beaches leave the south well behind. Who'd want to live in ho hum territory. I live in the west these days but counting the days for when I can move back to the northern peninsula. The holiday resort where God goes for his/her time off

 

[Harry]

Roosters have Latrell Mitchell as a gun fullback coming so this will make it interesting.

TBH, I can't see either of them being regular 1st graders next year, maybe a handful of games each. Like most NYC guns, they can score tries but it's the defensive duties that finds them out.

Charlie is a specialist centre anyway. (Has played fullback and wing at times) but I believe he repped at centre.

I know it's all part of the business-side, and we've done it too; it just gives me the massive irrits that it was the Rorters that persuaded him over. (Even the Northern Beaches must be as good if not better than Bondi!).

And as said, with SBW and Minichello gone, there may be legit cash to splash. Fair enough. *I also feel if a local junior doesn't want to wait a year or two in our system for a shot at seniors, let him go.

The problem is the lower grades and the coaches are ordinary, the kids want to have a chance of doing well and winning its good motivation when you know your team is doing well and climbing the ladder and being on par with the rest of the others.

The club doesn't show any interest in their lower grades, so your good players won't hang around if they are not looked after and then play in Cup here for how long ? Especially when the team gets smashed each week and then there is no guarantee that there could be a spot for you in 1sts as the club could turn around and buy more players from outside which is happening all the time.

I live around the corner from the fortress, born and bred here and I watch all our juniors and seniors and know most of the boys well especially the local lads, so I am a big supporter of our local talent

 

[Bomack44]

Surely Williamson has been sacked for next year.

 

[Harry]

Surely Williamson has been sacked for next year.

No He's Baaaaaaaaaaack !