Poll added - Sea Eagles Everyone in League jersey
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I question my beliefs and science also, it's not one sided.
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I rarely sleep too young for that.
I will ease up when in Victoria, for now i have time to kill.
Woah woah wait a minute, don't just go around trying to make this about footy
Firstly, let me say I'm proud that my club has been the first to come up with such an initiative. Promoting inclusiveness is to be commended. Note, that is not forcing an opinion or agenda on players, staff or fans...just a recognition the LGBTQ community and what they have contributed to our club, be it as players, staff or fans.
What I will say though is that it appears the club has handled this a little poorly. The religious and cultural beliefs of the Polynesian community are no secret and, with such a heavy presence in our club, I think it may have been constructive to ask if anyone in the squad had any significant issues with the proposal. While the players involved may well have issues homosexuality, I think the lack of consultation is what they have the biggest issue with. Any issues could have been raised, discussed and a solution of some description found. I'd suggest a session with Ian Roberts discussing some of the problems he encountered, both before and after 'coming out', would have been helpful in illustrating why the club feels this initiative is an important one. For what it's worth, I think this is still something that could be done even now. Again, that is not to force and agenda or opinion on anyone but merely to present a different viewpoint.
If some players still felt it would be a betrayal of their beliefs and/or culture to wear the jersey then perhaps their absence from the team could have been 'managed', eg I fully expected more players to be missing this week due to COVID, perhaps that could have been given as the 'official' reason. While I don't agree with the beliefs in question, it's not my, or anyone's place, to tell them they can't have them and I don't see a public lynching as being helpful, hence 'managing' any player absence. That being said, they may well hold their convictions so strongly that they're fine with having the reason for their absence as public knowledge, aware of the potential backlash.
I do feel the club has missed an opportunity to utilise Ian Roberts here. Most of the disagreements on here and social media seem to be around not the beliefs themselves, but their right to hold them. I actually believe most people on both sides of this argument think the belief that homosexuality is in same way wrong or immoral is an antiquated one and one that should change. Maybe having a session with Ian Roberts would educate them a little and perhaps result in them challenging those beliefs. Again, not a forcing of a opinion but more an education piece and providing tools to reflect on and challenge what they have been led to believe.
I'm sure not everyone will agree with some of the opinions in my post....and that's absolutely fine.
What I will say though is that it appears the club has handled this a little poorly. The religious and cultural beliefs of the Polynesian community are no secret and, with such a heavy presence in our club, I think it may have been constructive to ask if anyone in the squad had any significant issues with the proposal. While the players involved may well have issues homosexuality, I think the lack of consultation is what they have the biggest issue with. Any issues could have been raised, discussed and a solution of some description found. I'd suggest a session with Ian Roberts discussing some of the problems he encountered, both before and after 'coming out', would have been helpful in illustrating why the club feels this initiative is an important one. For what it's worth, I think this is still something that could be done even now. Again, that is not to force and agenda or opinion on anyone but merely to present a different viewpoint.
If some players still felt it would be a betrayal of their beliefs and/or culture to wear the jersey then perhaps their absence from the team could have been 'managed', eg I fully expected more players to be missing this week due to COVID, perhaps that could have been given as the 'official' reason. While I don't agree with the beliefs in question, it's not my, or anyone's place, to tell them they can't have them and I don't see a public lynching as being helpful, hence 'managing' any player absence. That being said, they may well hold their convictions so strongly that they're fine with having the reason for their absence as public knowledge, aware of the potential backlash.
I do feel the club has missed an opportunity to utilise Ian Roberts here. Most of the disagreements on here and social media seem to be around not the beliefs themselves, but their right to hold them. I actually believe most people on both sides of this argument think the belief that homosexuality is in same way wrong or immoral is an antiquated one and one that should change. Maybe having a session with Ian Roberts would educate them a little and perhaps result in them challenging those beliefs. Again, not a forcing of a opinion but more an education piece and providing tools to reflect on and challenge what they have been led to believe.
I'm sure not everyone will agree with some of the opinions in my post....and that's absolutely fine.
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Surely not ,I doubt that ,they would be $300 each if they only made a 100
I wish it was the Silvertails logo haha
Technical Coach
Bencher
It's been a marketing success, sold out jerseys and probably the biggest crowd of the season and a courageous win by the boys(oops that is not inclusive at all i mean "courageous win by "them") inspired by "inclusivity".
Or does Manly get a whipping and respond with "it was certainly a hard week, many lessons learned but it was a great turnout today showing the groundswell of support for our initiative"
Or does Manly get a whipping and respond with "it was certainly a hard week, many lessons learned but it was a great turnout today showing the groundswell of support for our initiative"
This is probably right and if 2-3 do let em go.
I go by the pronouns "It, oi" and to my ex-wife dick head
Karshy
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hahahahahaha everyone is a flog if they dont agree with you. fkn peanut brain lefty.
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