Failing the test of character
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We really missed Schuster’s creativity in attack.
Loobs
Living in the demountable.
I think we've seen enough to know Manly when they lack a decent 5/8 option are not a top 8 side, even with Turbo. DCE gets no room and the attack goes very flat...
voicefromthehill
Bencher
Dammit even I missed his stupid no look passes
NYEagle
Bencher
100% BOZO - you could not be more right.
We were not up to the fight yesterday. We played a park footy team who won for the following four reasons
(1) They made few errors
(2) They were not penalised
(3) We were penalised
(4) We had players who did not show up, and who wanted to coast this in.
If any of the above four had have gone our way, we win this, and the only one in our control was (4) and maybe (3).
Well, the Manly team have 2 weeks to have a think about it, and a good look at themselves. Do they want to have a crack at this premiership or not?.
And let's hope we keep Funa and Walker out of this team.
NYEagle
malroon
Reserve Grader
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Rafferty
Mug punter
I keep reading all the reasons why we didn’t win, so I won’t rehash them, but what about finding that mental tuffness and ruthlessness to think and preform like winners, we’ve been having these mental weakness’s, drop off in intensity issues, that have to overcome. I would prefer to think that after our last 6 weeks and the great win over Parra that we would be hungry to keep building, we should of been pumped to give it to NC especially knowing we were heading into a week off, the golden opportunity to consolidate our position on the table, working to target our assault on a possible top 4 finish and finally keeping the big picture in mind or dreaming big if you prefer. We have been guilty of dropping these type of games many times in the past, to pencil in a loss to Parra and a win against NC, then see us get up to win against Parra and fall away against an easy 2 points is a killer, we need to work on our mental preparation and intensity regardless of the surrounding circumstance.
We have to find that ability to turn up and play with that hard edge winning attitude week in week out, if we can’t do that we are kidding ourselves. We should never have lost that game yesterday.
I hate this we are building type response and or attitude, don’t get me wrong it’s a good thing going forward, but we’re out there this year and we must think we’re in it this year and play like we want to win every week regardless who we play and what’s happening internally, building that winning culture. Maybe we need some extra mental conditioning, winning psychology sessions to help us focus going into the expect to win games, (as we don’t seem to have a problem getting up mentally for the top sides) if other top sides can focus and preform week in week out, we have to find the hunger and desire to be able to do it as well or we will be just making up the numbers, I‘m not dumping on us, but surely you can see that to improve and become a genuine force, we can’t dish up what we did on the weekend and drop those type of games. I know about our injury toll, I watched the game and know the refereeing was B/S, doesn’t matter, they are must win games and we must find the steel to win them moving forward or we will fail the test of character!
We have to find that ability to turn up and play with that hard edge winning attitude week in week out, if we can’t do that we are kidding ourselves. We should never have lost that game yesterday.
I hate this we are building type response and or attitude, don’t get me wrong it’s a good thing going forward, but we’re out there this year and we must think we’re in it this year and play like we want to win every week regardless who we play and what’s happening internally, building that winning culture. Maybe we need some extra mental conditioning, winning psychology sessions to help us focus going into the expect to win games, (as we don’t seem to have a problem getting up mentally for the top sides) if other top sides can focus and preform week in week out, we have to find the hunger and desire to be able to do it as well or we will be just making up the numbers, I‘m not dumping on us, but surely you can see that to improve and become a genuine force, we can’t dish up what we did on the weekend and drop those type of games. I know about our injury toll, I watched the game and know the refereeing was B/S, doesn’t matter, they are must win games and we must find the steel to win them moving forward or we will fail the test of character!
malroon
Reserve Grader
I think some supporters on here are "Failing the test of character" , we played a grand final style game against Doesn'tmatta last week , not to mention the mental strain of losing Bob fulton , don't you think this would of had an affect on their performance this week , not to mention the refereeing , give them a break humans do need time to recover both physically and mentally...
Rafferty
Mug punter
I get all that and we just had to dig deep knowing our break was coming, I’m not kicking the boys for their effort there were plenty of factors to consider, just saying we need to find that mental capacity to get the job done, our Match fitness was there even though we didn’t make the best use of our bench, so that’s not the issue, if our mental process was better then maybe we would of prevailed regardless, we had the better side and the ability to get the job done, we just didn’t execute to our potential, I’m sure the boys didn’t see us losing the game leading into Sunday.
The top sides keep turning up and most bar Penrith have had to deal with their fair share of adversity, if we want our game to go to the next level, then mentally we need to be able to do it, it doesn’t just happen, its something we can explore and strengthen.
Red Pill
Enthusiastic Amateur
All good. Check this out mate.
Jerry1
First Grader
He went on two win the comp twice though.
Test of character and ability to think on your feet and change tact when needed starts at the top.
Unfortunately Des picking Funa at 5/8th was lazy, poorly thought out and showed Newcastle zero respect for the game.
Our attack was completely screwed up with poor Funa being asked to play 5/8th.
Why didn't Des put a trained 5/8 in Croker to 5/8th. Des bought Lawton as a hooker, yet played him in the 2nd row.
This combined with Turbo playing soft so he was right for origin.
Very disappointing as we defended very well and should have scored 20+ points against Newcastle if we picked a real 5/8th.
Unfortunately Des picking Funa at 5/8th was lazy, poorly thought out and showed Newcastle zero respect for the game.
Our attack was completely screwed up with poor Funa being asked to play 5/8th.
Why didn't Des put a trained 5/8 in Croker to 5/8th. Des bought Lawton as a hooker, yet played him in the 2nd row.
This combined with Turbo playing soft so he was right for origin.
Very disappointing as we defended very well and should have scored 20+ points against Newcastle if we picked a real 5/8th.
ManEagle
Just a Man and his Eagle
Because last time he read silvertails the overwhelming majority was Crocker should never play 5/8 again...
I'm sorry but really, those calling out Des for not picking Crocker at 5/8 are in most cases the same posters who wanted Crocker off the books never to play 5/8 again.
So he tried something out of left field, not the first time but this time didn't turn out.
On the back of the worst refereeing performance in 8 years and an injury roll to boot.
Dammed if he does dammed if he doesn't
You are 100% correct, however choosing between Croker and Funa at 5/8 for one match the choice was clear
Croker
s#!t, where's my volume control!
ManEagle
Just a Man and his Eagle
Maybe, maybe not, personally I don't think it mattered between the two who played there, we were reffed out of the game but through sheer guts and the fact Newcastle didn't have much we hung in there.
I don't think it was the selection clanger others believe. Left field and hindsight wasn't the best but not going to crucify Des for giving it a shot under the circumstances.
Just my personal opinion is all.
That said if Funa is selected at 5/8 again when other options exist then Des needs ????
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8 | 4 | 4 | -60 | 8 |
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8 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 7 |
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8 | 3 | 5 | -25 | 6 |
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