what are you really really sick of?

[HappilyManly]

Speaking of wussy (and thanks for asking) - injury is ab related. torn/strained or something. But it only hurts when I sit down, stand up, run, walk, cough, sneeze, laugh, and especially when lying down.

Hopefully alcohol is the cure.

A six-pack for your six-pack then

The reason we didn't enquire about your injuries yesterday, was that in Oz we believe that snow is soft, you Wuss

 

[COMMANDER]

Mitchell Johnson sick of his try hard tough approach when he looks and acts like a soft ^&^$--- well basically the whole Australian team.

I like the old school toughness like S. Waugh A. Border style not the show pony stuff that is on display at present just to appear Australia has found a new tough skin.

Also how everyone is talking about how fast Mitchell Johnson is as if he is always extreme express pace when most of his deliveries are 142-147km/h with the odd one hitting in the lower 150's.(express to me is 147 and above) Yes he holds his pace well throughout the spell but by no means is he constantly express pace, must be the pathetic mustache adding a few km/h.

Yeah he's going ****house.

This sounds like pommie whinging; I'm sick of that!

 

[wedgetail eagle]

( Ouch) No good, Cobber.
You still have 5 more ab muscles,
so you won't miss 1.
True, I think alcohol is the only cure.
Good luck.

 

[wedgetail eagle]

Dang! -21*, cold as a Mother in laws kiss!
My wife is from Nebraska, when we visit her mob at Christmas I suffer.
I can handle the 40* much better.
How bad are you wounded, GE?

lol.

Nebraska! So both of our wives speak with funny accents!

The general thought around here is that cold is better than heat as you can always put more clothes on to keep warm but you can't take 'more' clothes off to cool down.

Sounds wussy to me!

Speaking of wussy (and thanks for asking) - injury is ab related. torn/strained or something. But it only hurts when I sit down, stand up, run, walk, cough, sneeze, laugh, and especially when lying down.

Hopefully alcohol is the cure.

No good, Cobber.
Remember you still have 5 more ab muscles,
So you won't miss 1.
True, alcohol is the only cure. Good luck.

 

[globaleagle]

Speaking of wussy (and thanks for asking) - injury is ab related. torn/strained or something. But it only hurts when I sit down, stand up, run, walk, cough, sneeze, laugh, and especially when lying down.

Hopefully alcohol is the cure.

A six-pack for your six-pack then

The reason we didn't enquire about your injuries yesterday, was that in Oz we believe that snow is soft, you Wuss

I gave wolfie his six pack back...as I broke it!

I thought snow was supposed to be soft too! #rippedoff!

 

[Technical Coach]

Mitchell Johnson sick of his try hard tough approach when he looks and acts like a soft ^&^$--- well basically the whole Australian team.

I like the old school toughness like S. Waugh A. Border style not the show pony stuff that is on display at present just to appear Australia has found a new tough skin.

Also how everyone is talking about how fast Mitchell Johnson is as if he is always extreme express pace when most of his deliveries are 142-147km/h with the odd one hitting in the lower 150's.(express to me is 147 and above) Yes he holds his pace well throughout the spell but by no means is he constantly express pace, must be the pathetic mustache adding a few km/h.

Who was the last bowler to bowl 147 plus right through a spell and do that consistently?

Well it was not Mitchell Johnson that is for sure, those deliveries were the exception not the norm and there are other bowlers who can hold mid 140's in international cricket past and present.

There does seem to be a lack of genuine pace stocks like in the past and it shows with the way batters are struggling with pace that is a little above the "present" norm like Johnson.

If you are talking in relative terms compared to the current crop yes he is quick but he is not frighteningly quick like Shoab, Lee, Tait etc who were able to bowl a full over in the 150's or close to it. In terms of average speed he holds a nice 140-145 but that is nothing special.

Seems the Australian team are hyping up his speed just to scare the English and it is working but it is partly hype.

Johnson will fall victim to his slinging bowling technique as per usual with a lack of control but he has improved this last year. England are making him look better than he is, really piss poor effort, scared lacking any toughness at the crease on a good flat deck.

I'm not sure what they are doing in cricket but the recorded speeds pitchers throw in baseball have "changed" recently, the guns used to record the speed out of the hand and now get the speed of the ball close to the batter, some teams use three or four guns simultainiously. Point is the speeds they used to get would be slower if they used today's equipment and methods.
I totally agree about England being piss poor in this test match. It seems wording about Perth has got them beat in Adelaide.

I agree, naturally you would think stronger athletes and more professionalism should produce bowlers that are capable of bowling faster so todays bowlers overall are/should be quicker than the past.(well that is the theory)

Each time bowlers have been timed in a controlled closed environment the reported speeds are 10-15km/k slower than the exaggerated on ground camera readings.

But what is also happening that could be contributing to slower speeds is the lack of the old school West Indian fast bowler who have the perfect physique for bounce and pace. These days that type of build is playing NBA or NFL or getting into sprinting, cable tv killed West Indian cricket and they are getting the best of the rest including the slim build weak Indian background bowlers and batters.

20/20 is starting to see some of the original West Indian physical presence coming back as they can see a decent living now playing cricket in the same way cable showed the glitz of the NBA and NFL. In 10-15yrs time we should see the West Indies get back into the top 4 again.

Even in England teams from the past you had the odd West Indian delivering the pace the white boys could not deliver which is lacking now also.

There just seems to be a lack of physical size in the fast bowling ranks these days and not enough pace within all nations, there are sprinklings but it definitely is not the same as the past that is for sure.

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Mitchell Johnson sick of his try hard tough approach when he looks and acts like a soft ^&^$--- well basically the whole Australian team.

I like the old school toughness like S. Waugh A. Border style not the show pony stuff that is on display at present just to appear Australia has found a new tough skin.

Also how everyone is talking about how fast Mitchell Johnson is as if he is always extreme express pace when most of his deliveries are 142-147km/h with the odd one hitting in the lower 150's.(express to me is 147 and above) Yes he holds his pace well throughout the spell but by no means is he constantly express pace, must be the pathetic mustache adding a few km/h.

Yeah he's going ****house.

This sounds like pommie whinging; I'm sick of that!

Not a Pom born in Australia but not the patriotic type so have no problem occasionally supporting countries who play against Australia in any sport if i hate the personalities representing Australia.

Not supporting England in this series just enjoying the match ups could care less who wins.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Methods of measuring a bowler's speed are not uniform and the accuracy is always being questioned. Radar and Hawk eye (based on multiple camera shots) are two methods that have been used, but it is doubtful that you can compare bowlers of different eras, or even in different series, using these methods. There's a youtube clip of Dale Steyn from earlier this year taking 6 for 8 in a test this year against Pakistan and he's only bowling 131-132 kph (supposedly). Looked a hell of a lot faster than Glen McGrath to me.

TC's estimate of ideal bowling physiques is a bit of a red herring, though what has happened with the $US thrown at young Carribean athletes would account for the slump in their fortunes since the '80s. There have always been some white bowlers of extreme speed, and also in modern times from the sub-continent. While the world's fastest-ever include a couple with powerful physiques like Akhtar and Thommo, many others with a lean physique and whippy action are on that list.

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but **** he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

 

[wombatgc]

My 18 year old offsider who doesn't appreciate 80's music...especially MC Hammered....go on click on and try not to dance...http://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo

 

[CAMBO]

Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

I guess being from New Zealand (the home of cricketing wankers) your a good judge KE

The biggest wankers in test cricket by some length of the straight would have to be
S broad
K Pietersen
J Anderson
V kolhi
Ms dohni

Oops I forgot that racist has been harbajan Singh

 

[Chip and Chase]

There aren't many Indian cricketers who don't fall into that category. Another who is top 5 is Ishant "Tranny" Sharma. One from not long ago who really got under my skin was Sreesanth, always carried on like a good sort but wasn't that good.

 

[CAMBO]

There aren't many Indian cricketers who don't fall into that category. Another who is top 5 is Ishant "Tranny" Sharma. One from not long ago who really got under my skin was Sreesanth, always carried on like a good sort but wasn't that good.

Lol Ishant the ladyboi Hahahaha.

I remember we he first came to australia in 2007-08 he looked like a bowler of the future he's done nothing since.

I really dislike Alma he seems like a decent bloke he's just boring I also don't like the fact he refuses to wear a sponsors logo on his test and odi shirt.

 

[globaleagle]

There aren't many Indian cricketers who don't fall into that category. Another who is top 5 is Ishant "Tranny" Sharma. One from not long ago who really got under my skin was Sreesanth, always carried on like a good sort but wasn't that good.

Lol Ishant the ladyboi Hahahaha.

I remember we he first came to australia in 2007-08 he looked like a bowler of the future he's done nothing since.

I really dislike Alma he seems like a decent bloke he's just boring I also don't like the fact he refuses to wear a sponsors logo on his test and odi shirt.

Arjuna Ranatunga

 

[jbb/james]

Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

Interesting in the players you have singled out as wankers. They all play with a certain amount of arrogance which comes from ability.They are also the players that love to compete. Every sport have the natural type players and the others that love the tussle and compete for every minute, on every play

These players rarely are liked by the opposition fans. They play harder than most and push the boundaries more than most. Its a compliment when other teams supporters dislike them.

You will probably appreciate them more down the track if New Zealand ever produce any players that give 100%

As for giving it to healy surely you jest. We have just had to stit frew dirrell hillagns comm, comm comementry frew da wild cup, and his stitististics

 

[Jethro]

Getting back on topic, now, what am I really really sick of? Well, not really but as a non-cricket lover, I am slightly sick of seeing cricket crap in the Rugby League Forum but it's the off season and there is not much else to discuss at this time of year so rules tend to get relaxed a little so meh and this topic should also be in the General Discussion Forum or Silvertails Soapbox Forum but meh to that too.

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There is also a range of Off Season Sports Forums available on Silvertails too that may be of interest to some for discussion. Sorry but there is no NHL Forum available but globaleagle did start a thread last year in the General Discussion Forum titled "NHL 2013" that is still open for discussion. The NHL 2013 thread can be located quickly by clicking here:

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[Kiwi Eagle]

Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

I guess being from New Zealand (the home of cricketing wankers) your a good judge KE

The biggest wankers in test cricket by some length of the straight would have to be
S broad
K Pietersen
J Anderson
V kolhi
Ms dohni

Oops I forgot that racist has been harbajan Singh

I find the hypocrisy of why you Aussie fans hate Broad hilarious !! All he did was what your lads have been doing for years, J Langer one of the biggest culprits of the lot

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Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

Interesting in the players you have singled out as wankers. They all play with a certain amount of arrogance which comes from ability.They are also the players that love to compete. Every sport have the natural type players and the others that love the tussle and compete for every minute, on every play

These players rarely are liked by the opposition fans. They play harder than most and push the boundaries more than most. Its a compliment when other teams supporters dislike them.

You will probably appreciate them more down the track if New Zealand ever produce any players that give 100%

As for giving it to healy surely you jest. We have just had to stit frew dirrell hillagns comm, comm comementry frew da wild cup, and his stitististics

They all act like wankers, most probably coz they are rather than anything to do with ability

You wouldn't find many with much to say about Dale Steyn and he is the biggest competitor in world cricket, just doesn't have to carry on like a dickhead to achieve it

It is always amusing though to watch poor old Twattos face as other take the piss out of him though lol

 

[jbb/james]

Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

I guess being from New Zealand (the home of cricketing wankers) your a good judge KE

The biggest wankers in test cricket by some length of the straight would have to be
S broad
K Pietersen
J Anderson
V kolhi
Ms dohni

Oops I forgot that racist has been harbajan Singh

I find the hypocrisy of why you Aussie fans hate Broad hilarious !! All he did was what your lads have been doing for years, J Langer one of the biggest culprits of the lot

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Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

Interesting in the players you have singled out as wankers. They all play with a certain amount of arrogance which comes from ability.They are also the players that love to compete. Every sport have the natural type players and the others that love the tussle and compete for every minute, on every play

These players rarely are liked by the opposition fans. They play harder than most and push the boundaries more than most. Its a compliment when other teams supporters dislike them.

You will probably appreciate them more down the track if New Zealand ever produce any players that give 100%

As for giving it to healy surely you jest. We have just had to stit frew dirrell hillagns comm, comm comementry frew da wild cup, and his stitististics

They all act like wankers, most probably coz they are rather than anything to do with ability

You wouldn't find many with much to say about Dale Steyn and he is the biggest competitor in world cricket, just doesn't have to carry on like a dickhead to achieve it

It is always amusing though to watch poor old Twattos face as other take the piss out of him though lol

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What is that they do that works you up so much to draw this conclusion ? I am curious

 

[HappilyManly]

Another round of DCE to Broncos rumors started on @ReadingThePlay twitter. 6m for 4 years and Gifty giving him a hard time :s
Second irritant, 2v @RugbyLeagueNews quoted as being relaxed about ASADA

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

I guess being from New Zealand (the home of cricketing wankers) your a good judge KE

The biggest wankers in test cricket by some length of the straight would have to be
S broad
K Pietersen
J Anderson
V kolhi
Ms dohni

Oops I forgot that racist has been harbajan Singh

I find the hypocrisy of why you Aussie fans hate Broad hilarious !! All he did was what your lads have been doing for years, J Langer one of the biggest culprits of the lot

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Yeah I don't think the physique plays a huge part in the ability to bowl fast, but it does play a big part in the ability of the body to handle the prolonged battering of doing it continuously

1 of the quicker guys I saw coming through was built like an absolute rake, but s**t he could get the ball through. Dennis Lillee saw him when he was17 and said to toss him straight into test cricket but within 2 years he was broken down and he made about 5-6 comebacks before tossing it in.

Interesting one was Shane Bond, just a stock standard fast medium, cricket career going nowhere, so he went off to police college. After the training there he picked the ball up again and had gone up to express pace which eventually his body again couldn't keep up with

On the current series, started off the series hoping for a good contest and not really caring about the outcome, but 2 tests in have got to say that this Aussie team has a high quota of wankers, Warner, Watson, Johnson and Haddin the main men in that department so would love to see England comeback, part of that has to do with the commentating crew, abysmal with the likes of Healy there. 2 good spells and all of a sudden Johnson is the biggest champion fast bowler of all times. Will be interesting to see how Johnson carries on once the old scattergun bowler shows his head again

Interesting in the players you have singled out as wankers. They all play with a certain amount of arrogance which comes from ability.They are also the players that love to compete. Every sport have the natural type players and the others that love the tussle and compete for every minute, on every play

These players rarely are liked by the opposition fans. They play harder than most and push the boundaries more than most. Its a compliment when other teams supporters dislike them.

You will probably appreciate them more down the track if New Zealand ever produce any players that give 100%

As for giving it to healy surely you jest. We have just had to stit frew dirrell hillagns comm, comm comementry frew da wild cup, and his stitististics

They all act like wankers, most probably coz they are rather than anything to do with ability

You wouldn't find many with much to say about Dale Steyn and he is the biggest competitor in world cricket, just doesn't have to carry on like a dickhead to achieve it

It is always amusing though to watch poor old Twattos face as other take the piss out of him though lol

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What is that they do that works you up so much to draw this conclusion ? I am curious

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These quotes are getting long now lol

Twatto, instant dislike, came into International cricket like a big shot when he hadn't earned the right, that is what irks me with a lot of people that come into the game lol. Hasn't done anything of note in test cricket for a few years now to be carrying on how he does

Warner, similar to above and also hearing from someone who was part of a team he played for a few years ago what he is like

Johnson is at least backing up his chat at the moment but after every single ball is getting boring now

Haddin looks like Healy and cheats, good enough for me there

Maxwell was another one of these characters, fancy calling yourself the Big Show when entering a side lol, but much to my surprise I have been finding him entertaining to watch lately

 

[manlyfan76]

Test Cricket got real boring and now it's exciting again and there is some action on and off the field and all the haters come out to pick on the Aussies who have found a way to win after going ****e for so long. People hated on Alan Border but he got results so good on him I say.