Walker critics be gone

[Kevinward777]

I'm sick of hearing how its "like the Nazis" & "a new apartheid" - if the people dreaming up these comparisons spent the same effort educating themselves on the benefits of the vaccination instead of trying to incite emotional response they'd probably understand it's not a conspiracy theory or whatever they believe it is.

There are MANY doctors, scientists and immunologists who are vehemently opposed to the vaccine. Have you listened to any of them or read their research?:Im not talking about internet "Karen's" either. I can post a compelling list of names of these men and women if you like. They are brave souls who have lost everything by voicing genuine concern.

The very thing one Nobel prize winning scientist said would transpire has now occurred. God help us all if the rest of his information comes to pass.

 

[47MVEagle]

There are MANY doctors, scientists and immunologists who are vehemently opposed to the vaccine. Have you listened to any of them or read their research?:Im not talking about internet "Karen's" either. I can post a compelling list of names of these men and women if you like. They are brave souls who have lost everything by voicing genuine concern.

Just to clarify, I have no problem with people who are vaccine hesitant or have genuine reasons (medical or bad experience) for not getting vaccinated.

My issue is with the conspiracy theorists & fearmongers who are throwing so much misinformation around that it's causing anyone who is hesitant to believe the vaccine is bad.

 

[lsz]

Just to clarify, I have no problem with people who are vaccine hesitant or have genuine reasons (medical or bad experience) for not getting vaccinated.

My issue is with the conspiracy theorists & fearmongers who are throwing so much misinformation around that it's causing anyone who is hesitant to believe the vaccine is bad.

Agree 100%

There is work to be done on the hesitant people who need more information / assistance. Anti vaxers are a very different case

 

[Brisbane Tragic]

I suspect the delay is due to the NRL refusing to make vaccination mandatory amongst their employees (knowing full well pressure will be exerted upon them by external factors such as state laws, airline rules, etc) & not clearly stating what each club's legal & contractual rights & responsibilities are in regards to unvaccinated players who will only be able to play what - 8 or 9 games a season?

yes the fact nobody has signed him is all strange

 

[madmax]

I really couldn’t care less for anyone that refuses the jab! Their choice & they suffer the consequences. Like I posted elsewhere there are some antivaxxers that don’t mind getting tattoos & injecting poison ink into their bodies, others that use Botox injections, some that smoke. Their bodies their choice. They moan about their rights & how they shouldn’t be forced to take the jab…that’s fine. Smoking was banned in offices, buildings, aircraft, ships, public transport, pubs & clubs & life continued. The population accepted it! It’s the same with Covid….it’s a risk to your health just as smoking is & prominent doctors, scientists, professors around the globe have hard evidence that getting the jab will decrease the risk of people getting violently sick & dying from Covid. Nothing is 100% guaranteed but the virus has killed millions of people around the globe as has smoking! Should people refuse the jab then it’s a risk they take. I bet when / if they need life saving surgery they’ll take any jab they need! They won’t mind anaesthetic or pain killing injections then will they. My main concern is that these people can spread the virus to those who genuinely cannot have the jab due to health conditions. Should any one choose to not vaccinate / immunise children against horrible diseases then they should also accept they are responsible for any deaths due to their beliefs & suffer the consequences! Just my opinion.

 

[The better Robbo]

You do realise what you experienced was your body fighting the virus (or virus simulant depending what jab you got)?

I got the AZ jab & was sick as a dog after the first shot - from about 8 hours after getting it, I had severe cold & flu symptoms (migraine, sweats, chills, dehydration, aches & pains all over) for almost exactly 36 hours.

I had no such reactions to the second shot, which suggests my immune system has now developed resistance to COVID.

That's the idea of a vaccine - it introduces a tiny part (or simulant) of whatever virus it is supposed to protect you from so your body can fight it & produce resistance to it in the event the real thing comes along.

That's why people who get the flu shot sometimes get sick, but for vulnerable people, I daresay the potentially unpleasant experience of a vaccine far outweighs the risks of catching the real virus as it could be life-threatening.

I felt absolutely nothing after my first shot, does that mean my own immune system was already strong enough to fight it? Does that also mean if I got Covid prior to the vaccine there would have been a very good chance I would have had very few, if any symptoms? Not being a smart ass, a serious question.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

You do realise what you experienced was your body fighting the virus (or virus simulant depending what jab you got)?

I got the AZ jab & was sick as a dog after the first shot - from about 8 hours after getting it, I had severe cold & flu symptoms (migraine, sweats, chills, dehydration, aches & pains all over) for almost exactly 36 hours.

I had no such reactions to the second shot, which suggests my immune system has now developed resistance to COVID.

That's the idea of a vaccine - it introduces a tiny part (or simulant) of whatever virus it is supposed to protect you from so your body can fight it & produce resistance to it in the event the real thing comes along.

That's why people who get the flu shot sometimes get sick, but for vulnerable people, I daresay the potentially unpleasant experience of a vaccine far outweighs the risks of catching the real virus as it could be life-threatening.

Exactly , good mate of mine is a Dr, now retired.

I spoke to him before getting AZ, he told me to expect to feel off colour but if you do that’s perfect , it’s your body doing it job as it’s supposed to do !!

Most don’t get that !!

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I felt absolutely nothing after my first shot, does that mean my own immune system was already strong enough to fight it? Does that also mean if I got Covid prior to the vaccine there would have been a very good chance I would have had very few, if any symptoms? Not being a smart ass, a serious question.

If you had Pfizer, that’s exactly how it works , the second shot will be different.

AZ is the reverse , first shot is worse , second is easy peasy!!

 

[Brookie Bob]

I felt absolutely nothing after my first shot, does that mean my own immune system was already strong enough to fight it? Does that also mean if I got Covid prior to the vaccine there would have been a very good chance I would have had very few, if any symptoms? Not being a smart ass, a serious question.

As I am part of a Covid19 vaccination team I can tell you - nothing to worry about. Responses vary amongst individuals. It's not an indication either way re: the status of your immune system.

Please remember to get your booster shot 6 months after your second vaccination.

I've had all 3 (including the booster) - I didn't even have a sore arm.

 

[40 nil]

My main concern is that these people can spread the virus to those who genuinely cannot have the jab due to health conditions.

As we know, these vaccines are not fool proof as even the double vaccinated can spread the virus

"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise. People who have a Delta virus and happen to have ‘breakthrough’ infections can carry these really high levels of virus, and can unwittingly spread the virus to others,” says David O’Connor, a virologist at the University of Wisconsin–Madison.

How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says

Emerging data suggest that Delta could spread more readily than other coronavirus variants among people vaccinated against COVID-19. But key questions remain.

www.nature.com

 

[manly al]

As we know, these vaccines are not fool proof as even the double vaccinated can spread the virus

"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise. People who have a Delta virus and happen to have ‘breakthrough’ infections can carry these really high levels of virus, and can unwittingly spread the virus to others,” says David O’Connor, a virologist at the University of Wisconsin–Madison.

How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says

Emerging data suggest that Delta could spread more readily than other coronavirus variants among people vaccinated against COVID-19. But key questions remain.

www.nature.com

so continuing to wear face masks in many instances can still play an important role in suppressing the different strains of it or have i missed something

 

[40 nil]

so continuing to wear face masks in many instances can still play an important role in suppressing the different strains of it or have i missed something

Yes, that is what I understand. Vaccinated persons may be infected, but asymptomatic, and thus can unwittingly pass the virus on to others.

A new vaccine, Engeneic, being developed in Australia is said to cope with all mutant strains of covid, doesn't cause reactions in those with auto immune deficiencies, is in oral powder form (mix with water) & has a long shelf life

Potential vax for deadly Covid strain

An Australian biotech tech company is the first in the world to develop a potential nanocellular Covid-19 vaccine that’s expected to be more efficient against mutant strains and better suited for patients with compromised immune systems.

www.news.com.au

 

[madmax]

As we know, these vaccines are not fool proof as even the double vaccinated can spread the virus

"Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise. People who have a Delta virus and happen to have ‘breakthrough’ infections can carry these really high levels of virus, and can unwittingly spread the virus to others,” says David O’Connor, a virologist at the University of Wisconsin–Madison.

How do vaccinated people spread Delta? What the science says

Emerging data suggest that Delta could spread more readily than other coronavirus variants among people vaccinated against COVID-19. But key questions remain.

www.nature.com

Yes I understand mate but by getting vaccinated the chance of getting Covid decreases compared to the those not vaccinated. At the end of the day we want to decrease the possibility of this virus spreading faster than it should & by vaccination it’s exactly what it does….I believe the positives of vaccination heavily out weigh the negatives. It’s a difficult dilemma & one which will take quite a while to work thru!

 

[Lyonstomenzies]

Its like Berlin in 1939... all we need is the goose stepping down george st and a maniac with a dirty Sanchez and we are there!

Scomo said no one will be forced to take the jab, few months later its been forced on all of us.

I have never replied to someone on here and used derogatory remarks, but for you to compare nazi Germany to Australians getting a vaccination for something that could kill you makes me think you are not very well educated in history.
Your comments are quite offensive as the estimated 6 millions people whom died at the hands of the nazis is nothing like Scomo asking Australia to get a jab.
You might want to check your vaccination history because chances are you are already vaccinated for polio, rubella, tetanus, hep A, hep B and whooping cough.
You getting sick and showing symptoms from the vaccination is your bodies way of fighting the virus so chances are if you got the virus without getting a vaccinated you would have been one of those that would have been hospitalised.
You probably needed the vaccinated more than others if you showed symptoms.

 

[Captain Moondog]

My main concern is that these people can spread the virus to those who genuinely cannot have the jab due to health conditions

I know a couple of people who are in this position and they are really worried.

 

[Shoe1]

So, by your own account - all the people who are vaccine hesitant are binge drinking, drug using, smokers who eat take out while lying on the couch. Would you kindly provide evidence that supports this claim?

Also heavily tattooed. They will only accept needles in their body if it results in a permanent drawing of a skull, snake or name of a loved one, with poor spelling.

Also if the needle delivers heroin or speed that is fine too, for some.

 

[BOZO]

So, by your own account - all the people who are vaccine hesitant are binge drinking, drug using, smokers who eat take out while lying on the couch. Would you kindly provide evidence that supports this claim?

Full of evidence evidence at pubs , clubs , take aways and we know footy players drink like fish .

The Effects of Alcohol on Your Body​

Alcohol’s impact on your body starts from the moment you take your first sip. While an occasional glass of wine with dinner isn’t a cause for concern, the cumulative effects of drinking wine, beer, or spirits can take its toll.
Read on to learn the effects of alcohol on your body.

Effects of Alcohol on the Body

What happens to your body after you take your first sip of alcohol? Learn the effects of drinking on your body and mental well-being.

www.healthline.com

Australia is also rated 5th out of 23 countries in obesity rate which is National health concern
Being over your healthy weight can also lead to high blood pressure , heart issues , diabetes , stroke , kidney disease etc

 

[lsz]

I have never replied to someone on here and used derogatory remarks, but for you to compare nazi Germany to Australians getting a vaccination for something that could kill you makes me think you are not very well educated in history.
Your comments are quite offensive as the estimated 6 millions people whom died at the hands of the nazis is nothing like Scomo asking Australia to get a jab.
You might want to check your vaccination history because chances are you are already vaccinated for polio, rubella, tetanus, hep A, hep B and whooping cough.
You getting sick and showing symptoms from the vaccination is your bodies way of fighting the virus so chances are if you got the virus without getting a vaccinated you would have been one of those that would have been hospitalised.
You probably needed the vaccinated more than others if you showed symptoms.

This touches pretty close to home as both of my mothers parents were holocaust survivors.

I grew up hearing the stories of what they had to endure, the family they and we lost (we are talking about generations) and toll it took on them for the rest of their lives.

Ultimately that poster is nothing more than a troll but to see some people wear a yellow star makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[manly al]

I know a couple of people who are in this position and they are really worried.

Very unfortunate aspect of it , maybe just regular face mask wearing and minimizing contact with larger gatherings until the threat factor or any possible virus threat factor is reduced or largely eliminated .

 

[manly al]

I have never replied to someone on here and used derogatory remarks, but for you to compare nazi Germany to Australians getting a vaccination for something that could kill you makes me think you are not very well educated in history.
Your comments are quite offensive as the estimated 6 millions people whom died at the hands of the nazis is nothing like Scomo asking Australia to get a jab.
You might want to check your vaccination history because chances are you are already vaccinated for polio, rubella, tetanus, hep A, hep B and whooping cough.
You getting sick and showing symptoms from the vaccination is your bodies way of fighting the virus so chances are if you got the virus without getting a vaccinated you would have been one of those that would have been hospitalised.
You probably needed the vaccinated more than others if you showed symptoms.

Relevant post but in terms of Nazi atrocities and barbarity , more then 6 million? , try many tens of millions including over 20 mil Soviet civilians