Burbo misses a lot of tackles .
Turbo back.. at centre
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bringbackbeaver
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Putting it out there.. Would Ola be more effective in the middle for us? Love the guy but he doesnt seem to get enough ball and he doesnt go looking for it. Just get this feeling that he could be enormous in the middle , of course we'd need to recruit a second rower or two to replace him
Darknstormy
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Coming back from 8weeks away you would of thought they would of thrown him in nsw cup on our bye weekend for a run then back ready for cowboys game..I’m not sure if our nsw cup team had a bye to but if they didn’t that’s where he should of been
No he is better on the edge, he has picked his fitness up and his defence is really good with Chez can offload, once against the cowboys Turbo ran out there edge ( didn't get the ball just options for Chez )and that created room for Oka to break through , get him one on one and he will beat them everytime
stoodamire
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The last two games have similarities to when he returned from injury in 2021 and won the Dally M, can he do it again and carry us deep into the finals??
Nordburg
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He brings others into the game when he plays FB,absolute waste playing him in the centres at club level
Today even more so than last week he appeared to flick a switch and go full tilt. I think he has finally said **** the hamstring whisperer. I will run how I want to run. 👏🏻
It will take a monumental run for anyone to catch Jerome Hughes this year. 14 wins largely without Papy and Munster. Grant has been quiet by his standards. If you could still bet on the Dally M he'd be $1.10 favourite.
Hughes career path has been really unusual, it's incredible to think he only became a regular halfback in 2020, at the age of 25. Until then he was mainly a fullback. Top player (even though he does play for Storm!)
NRL 2024: Inside the rebuild of Tom Trbojevic, meet the man charged with getting Manly Sea Eagles star back on track
Tom Trbojevic has travelled the world seeking help for his troubling injuries that have plagued his NRL career. Meet the man charged with rebuilding the Manly star back to his destructive best.Michael Carayannis and Tyson Jackson
4 min read
August 16, 2024 - 6:00AM
There has been a trip to Melbourne, another to the USA. But this time the Sea Eagles called in the reinforcements.
Let’s dub it the rebooting of Tom Trbojevic 2.0 – with the helping hand of an English physio who flew halfway around the world to help with the repair of the Manly superstar.
Trbojevic is back to his scintillating best five games into his latest injury comeback having suffered his sixth hamstring issue in as many years. His blistering career was now in jeopardy.
Trbojevic has tried it all before. He has met with an expert in Melbourne before spending part of last off-season with reconditioning specialist Bill Knowles in Philadelphia.
Still Trbojevic was plagued by hamstring issues. The Sea Eagles took another path after he limped from the field in round 10 against the Dolphins when they reached out to Huddersfield-based physiotherapist Dave O’Sullivan.
“He gave me a perspective on things and a few different things to work on,” Trbojevic said. “He showed why things happen and how to fire certain muscles and to know when you’re off and you’re on … you have routine and they’re always the same but you have routines for different days of the week and for games.”
Sullivan had worked with Manly’s head of performance Jon Clarke at English Rugby and the Wallabies. But in June he found himself at Brookvale Oval for two weeks trying to work on rugby league’s most troublesome legs.
Sullivan explains how he helped get Trbojevic back on track.
FIRST MEETING
“Tom’s hamstring was in great shape by the time I got there. The big thing for me to establish is what’s the root problem to be solved. Doing the same thing as everyone else and expecting a different result is just insanity in the words of Albert Einstein. He also said ‘If I had an hour to solve a problem I’d spend 55 minutes thinking about the problem and five minutes thinking about solutions’. So it was very much this approach when I first started with Tom.
“My approach is slightly different and I have a step by step system where I take players through and it’s about earning the right to get to the next level so my system is able to work concurrent with the traditional approaches but it’s very much about finding what’s not doing its job and helping the hamstring rather than just more of the same and strengthening the hamstring.
“I started by asking Tom the question, ‘I haven’t felt the same since …’ And to be completely honest with you Tom actually gave me the answer within the first 60 seconds. He knew he wasn’t the same since a particular injury and that helped me massively put the clues together.
“From there we mapped out all his previous injuries in detail and drew a timeline in chronological order.
“We assessed his ability to tolerate load through all these areas of his body from his previous injuries to find what wasn’t doing enough work.”
WORK DONE
“We put his body in positions where his nervous system had no choice but to tolerate load. My rehab approach is not about strengthening muscles in isolation yet rather pit the body in positions where it had no choice but to tolerate load and very often we can then see quick changes.
“His hamstring strengthening work was top class by the Manly medical team so it was more about focusing on what wasn’t doing its job. I didn’t need to worry about his hamstring at all during my two weeks there.
“We put him in positions to get these to do more work. This then updates his nervous system to show it’s safe to tolerate load.”
CHANGING RUNNING STYLE
“100 per cent no. I said to Tom the most important thing he needs to do when he gets back playing is to relearn how to relax again and enjoy playing rugby. With complex cases or generally in life it’s easy to strengthen or tense a muscle it’s far harder to relearn how to relax as relaxation is important for co-ordination and timing of muscles working together.
“So specifically for Tom his hamstrings are doing a great job, if anything they’re doing too good a job and other areas of the body aren’t doing enough work which is often the case in these situations.”
THE HAMSTRINGS
“Tom’s hamstrings are among the strongest in the NRL and that’s based on objective testing. The key thing is that everything else does its job now to help his hamstrings.
“Tom has his best years ahead of him, he’s one of the most intelligent athletes I’ve ever worked with and a great problem solver which the best athletes in the world tend to be but he just didn’t know what the root problem to be solved was.
“As with rugby league you always need a bit of luck in a contact sport but I’ve got no worries whatsoever about his robustness or resilience and also on a side note I’d like to mention what a top guy and down to earth genuine nice guy he is and wish him all the best for future.”
manlyfan76
There is no A.I. Just better computers
Yet again sounds like he's fixed.
So, till next time, it's bye from me.
So, till next time, it's bye from me.
There was no doubt in my mind when he came back before his previous injury he was in a self preservation mindset wanting some longevity. I'm so glad he is relaxed again it really shows.
Rocky
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Ohh it's you... I've been looking for you on the sack Seibold threads.
I want to know who the bludging muscles were?
Also Tom summed up in 60 seconds what he considered the main injuries that started it.
Surely, ‘the Corso and the home shower" didn’t take more than 60 seconds to sum up.
You can see he’s lost a yard of pace. But what he hasn’t lost is his footy smarts. His confidence is getting better each week. Which in turn is helping the rest of the team. Take Lehi for example. How much confidence would he get from having Tommy barking instructions behind him. Fingers crossed for the rest of the season.
Also Tom summed up in 60 seconds what he considered the main injuries that started it.
Surely, ‘the Corso and the home shower" didn’t take more than 60 seconds to sum up.
You can see he’s lost a yard of pace. But what he hasn’t lost is his footy smarts. His confidence is getting better each week. Which in turn is helping the rest of the team. Take Lehi for example. How much confidence would he get from having Tommy barking instructions behind him. Fingers crossed for the rest of the season.
What an awesome podcast. Being in a relaxed setting, Tom was down to earth and it was quite enlightening on a range of subjects.
Thanks so much for sharing!
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