@ training today

Fact. Under his watch we went from premiers to missing the finals.

In my opinion tactically he wasn't up to it. In 2015 we were still using that sweeping 2nd man Brett Stewart play that Des introduced 6 years earlier. The same play other teams had adopted and stop using a long time ago because in the end it was easy to defend.

I also think he kept players based on loyalty and not performance. I think this is why he fell out with the Penns. They cut Watmough and Glenn Stewart and their performances since justify that position. Sure they didn't handle it very well but I think if Tooves had have done it he may still have a job and a top 8 team.

Really you cant judge coaches when injuries decimate their stable. Same happens to any coach. Toovey and Barrett should be judged on what they do when they have a season without too many serious injuries. 2015 and 2016 were wipe outs. In both instances they would have made the finals if they'd had a fair shake with the gods of injury
 
With all the conjecture, this is what I'm feeling will happen with the team & depth (I also VERY much think that is probably a bottom 1/2 team):

01. Tom Trbojevic / Kevin Locke
02. Jorge Taufua / Jonathan Wright
03. Mathew Wright / Brayden Wiliame
04. Dylan Walker / Omar Slaimankhel
05. Akuila Uate / Brad Parker
06. Blake Green / Cameron Cullen
07. Daly Cherry-Evans / Peta Godinet
08. Darcy Lussick / Willis Meehan
09. Matt Parcell / Apisai Koroisou
10. Addin Fanua-Blake /
11. Marty Taupau / Billy Bainbridge
12. Shaun Lane / Frank Winterstein
13. Jake Trbojevic /

14. Lewis Brown
15. Nate Myles
16. Brenton Lawrence
17. Jamil Hopoate

Based on currently signed players, I'm positive there will be some more coming, who & when ??????

BUT remember it was about this time last year Marty signed so anything IS possible!!
 
Can't have it both ways Ryan.
A true blue Manly legend (and one of my all-time favourite Sea Eagle characters) presided over a team for which some players weren't sure they wanted to play and for which others couldn't drag themselves out of the car to join training.
And there are serious allegations our players might have fixed matches... and your comment is, 'Great, that means we would have made the finals if they were trying'...Really???
Credit to my occasional nemesis @Stevo for stating the obvious (and the obviously unpopular).

I love Tooves. I really do.

But I don't think he was a very good coach and I obviously don't buy into the 'you have to bleed maroon to be involved with the club' attitude some have so its easy for me to point that out.

I think he went well at the start on the back of players like the Stewarts, Watmough, Matai and Lyon. When thoose players form dropped off, so to did Tooves.
 
I love Tooves. I really do.

But I don't think he was a very good coach and I obviously don't buy into the 'you have to bleed maroon to be involved with the club' attitude some have so its easy for me to point that out.

I think he went well at the start on the back of players like the Stewarts, Watmough, Matai and Lyon. When thoose players form dropped off, so to did Tooves.
No coach in the history of the game has ever won games when his top players dropped off .
You cant win games if you don't have the right cattle on the field . Just ask Bennett how much success he had when he coached at the Knights and had a 45 % winning record . Toovey's wining record at Manly with players dropping off as you say was 58 %
Haslers winning record at the Dogs with an open cheque book is only 2% higher than Tooveys at 60 %.
Toovey is a great coach !!!

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Really you cant judge coaches when injuries decimate their stable. Same happens to any coach. Toovey and Barrett should be judged on what they do when they have a season without too many serious injuries. 2015 and 2016 were wipe outs. In both instances they would have made the finals if they'd had a fair shake with the gods of injury
One could argue that a better coach would have better trainers, better strength and conditioning coaches, better sports scientists and doctors and finally better grasp on how and why injuries are happening.

I would say across the last 2 or 3 seasons there were a few injuries that either shouldn't have happened or shouldn't have impacted the team the way they did
 
I would say Melbourne leads the league in injury management and prevention and have done for a number of years. That is just a guess based on their vast financial resources, and their record of keeping key players on the field year after year.
 
I would say Melbourne leads the league in injury management and prevention and have done for a number of years. That is just a guess based on their vast financial resources, and their record of keeping key players on the field year after year.
They are so good that i would not be suprised if it came out there was so dodgey activity down there. count the number of games their rep players play year in yearout.
 
They are so good that i would not be suprised if it came out there was so dodgey activity down there. count the number of games their rep players play year in yearout.

maybe doing some cross code work with the fumble ball teams down there like Essendon.
 
One could argue that a better coach would have better trainers, better strength and conditioning coaches, better sports scientists and doctors and finally better grasp on how and why injuries are happening.

I would say across the last 2 or 3 seasons there were a few injuries that either shouldn't have happened or shouldn't have impacted the team the way they did


But how much say does a coach have in getting those people. Many of those assisting Manly during their dominant years jumped ship with Hasler. And in many ways Toovey was given what he had to take. Do we blame Barrett for all the trainers that have been brought in. I wonder what say he had. I remember, I think it was Cleary, a few years back at Penrith copping a dreadful season of injuries that ensured his team at that time was out of contention, despite much promise. Stuart at Parramatta. Robinson Sydney City 2016. McGuire South Sydney 2016. Successful coaches who had bad years mainly through their main stars being injured
 
But how much say does a coach have in getting those people. Many of those assisting Manly during their dominant years jumped ship with Hasler. And in many ways Toovey was given what he had to take. Do we blame Barrett for all the trainers that have been brought in. I wonder what say he had. I remember, I think it was Cleary, a few years back at Penrith copping a dreadful season of injuries that ensured his team at that time was out of contention, despite much promise. Stuart at Parramatta. Robinson Sydney City 2016. McGuire South Sydney 2016. Successful coaches who had bad years mainly through their main stars being injured

Ask Brad Arthur, and see who he demanded as his Strength and Conditioning Coach this year. That's right, Ronnie Palmer is the new strength and conditioning coach for The Eels.

Also, everyone check out their twitter feed.

+ Video's of the week that was at training
+ Confirmation of the playing squad
+ Introduction to all new players (plus pictures)
+ New signings announced
+ New CEO notes and vision going forward

Manly on the other hand.

+ Last chance premiership coin
+ Jake Trbojevic X 100
+ More coins
+ For all we know, Larry, Curly and Mo might as well be new signings

FMD
 
Dear Parramatta Eels Blue and Gold Army:

I wanted to introduce myself in my first week as Chief Executive Officer of the Parramatta Eels NRL Club. It is a privilege to be provided the opportunity to lead a Rugby League Club so rich in passion and history.

Having grown up playing and following Rugby League, I have never lost my love of the game and understand the vital role the Parramatta Eels play in our Western Sydney community. I am dedicated to creating a strong, financially sustainable Club that our Blue and Gold Army can be proud of.

The resiliency and loyalty shown by Parramatta Eels fans in 2016 has been awesome. Achieving a record breaking membership figure, the third highest in the game and second highest in Sydney, is testament to the support of our wonderful fans. It is time for us to repay your loyalty by creating a fan-centric organisation that places our Blue and Gold Army at the centre of every decision we make.

As a matter of priority we have committed to:

• No price increase in 2017 for Renewing 2016 Members

• Locking in 2016 regular prices for any New Member who joins before Christmas 2016

• Including transport in the price of our Membership tickets for 2017, and

• Improving your game day experience through an expanded Fan Experiences Team, upgraded Members' facilities and increased fan engagement initiatives.

We are working diligently to ensure the move of our home games for 2017 to ANZ Stadium is as seamless as possible for our Members. In 2019, with the completion of the new Parramatta Stadium, our fans will enjoy the best club football stadium in Australia. By the time we take residence in our new home, the Parramatta Leagues Club will have completed its redevelopment, thereby delivering a sports and entertainment precinct unmatched in Australia.

Our Football Program is in great shape under the leadership of Head Coach, Brad Arthur. Under difficult circumstances, our players and coaching staff displayed outstanding determination to remain extremely competitive on the field in 2016. We are all excited about our Eels team for 2017.

Our commercial partners have shown great loyalty under the recent circumstances. Their ongoing support confirms an unwavering confidence in the Eels’ ability to deliver both on and off the field. New partnership signings provide further evidence of our Club’s credibility as both a viable and valuable business partner.

I urge you all to get behind our team through our Club Membership Program. Not only are we freezing prices for renewing Members and locking in 2016 prices for new Members who join before Christmas, but those who join now will be at the front of the queue for seats at the new Parramatta Stadium.

Please visit parraeels.com.au/membership to join today.

I look forward to working closely with our Blue and Gold Army to grow our club into an elite sports organisation.

In Blue & Gold,

Bernie Gurr

Chief Executive Officer

Parramatta Eels National Rugby League Club
 
Eels Announce 2017 Squad

The Parramatta Eels have today announced four new signings for the 2017 season that will join the Club as the team returns for pre-season training this week.

In addition to the new signings, the Eels welcome back a number of players who have been retained as a part of the squad for next season.

Eels Head Coach Brad Arthur said that the Club’s recruitment and retention for 2017 was targeted at building on a strong platform from last year and providing enhanced competition across all positions.

“I am pleased with the squad we have assembled and I expect that we will be able to continue to progress forward as a group in 2017,” Arthur said.

“We have a good mix of experienced and developing players who offer the team the opportunity to improve on last year. However what’s important now is our attitude and commitment towards our preparation for the 2017 season.”

The majority of the NRL squad has returned this week to begin the 2017 pre-season with the remaining members resuming from next week.

The new additions for 2017 include: -

· Kirisome Auva’a – A Samoan international who was part of South Sydney’s premiership winning team in 2014. Kirisome has undertaken an intensive support program as part of his return to the rugby league in consultation with the NRL and Rugby League Players Association (RLPA).

· Will Smith – Was named in the NSW Cup team of the year in 2014 and has gone on to play 21 NRL games for Penrith over the last two years.

· Jamal Fogarty – A former Australian Schoolboys representative who played for QLD Cup champions Burleigh Bears in 2016.

· Marata Niukore – A former junior Kiwi who was part of the NZ Warriors Holden Cup side.

Players who are returning in 2017 or have been elevated from junior programs include: -

· Jeff Robson – re-signed for 1 year

· Alex Twal - re-signed for 1 year

· Jack Morris – re-signed for 2 years

· Bureta Faraimo – re-signed for 1 year

· Cameron King – re-signed for 1 year

· Cody Nelson – re-signed for 1 year

· Honeti Tuha – re-signed for 1 year

· James Hasson – re-signed for 1 year

· Kelepi Tanginoa – re-signed for 1 year

· Matt Woods - re-signed for 1 year

· Scott Schulte - re-signed for 1 year

· Vai Toutai – re-signed 1 year

Over the past two months the Club has re-signed Bevan French, Corey Norman, Danny Wicks, Kenny Edwards, Isaac De Gois, Rory O’Brien, Brad Takairangi and Manu Ma’u on multi-year deals.

This follows the announcements of Nathan Brown, George Jennings, Siosaia Vave and Josh Hoffman as new signings for the Eels in 2017.
 
Ask Brad Arthur, and see who he demanded as his Strength and Conditioning Coach this year. That's right, Ronnie Palmer is the new strength and conditioning coach for The Eels.

Also, everyone check out their twitter feed.

+ Video's of the week that was at training
+ Confirmation of the playing squad
+ Introduction to all new players (plus pictures)
+ New signings announced
+ New CEO notes and vision going forward

Manly on the other hand.

+ Last chance premiership coin
+ Jake Trbojevic X 100
+ More coins
+ For all we know, Larry, Curly and Mo might as well be new signings

FMD
Wow! You appear to be holding Parra as an example Manly should be following.
Just a reminder, Parra has more wodden spoons than any club and currently has the longest drought for winning a premiership.They have also cheated the salary cap while still winning the spoon. Let's hope Manly never follow the Parra model.
 

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