Tom and Jake

FYI I'm Budgie. Changed my name for a bit of fun, isn't fun but has to stay that way for a month.

But sure, I'm Cliffy Biffy Buffy whatever.

People are calling for both Jake and Tom to have a rest. May I suggest that the posters frothing at the mouth over the identity of another poster need a pretty big break themselves.

It's just a footy forum for heaven's sake
The go to play for some when faced with an alternate thought process is to call the person Biff. I find it amusing that there are a handful of posters who display Biff like behaviour yet somehow escape the glare of the "biff light." The Inquisitors and their loyal zealot conformists are being lazy.

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FYI I'm Budgie. Changed my name for a bit of fun, isn't fun but has to stay that way for a month.

But sure, I'm Cliffy Biffy Buffy whatever.

People are calling for both Jake and Tom to have a rest. May I suggest that the posters frothing at the mouth over the identity of another poster need a pretty big break themselves.

It's just a footy forum for heaven's sake
Wondered where you went to, your choice of username fits the Biff profile.Hardly frothing,more taking the piss.
 
These two idolise the club and have since they were kids. Loyal to a fault and have given their all.

We win more with both of them than we lose.

They are not responsible for the idiot roster and coaching decisions.

I cannot believe the mounting attacks from you drunken, lazy sausage roll eaters on a family that bleeds maroon and white.

If you don't want passionate believers who give everything for our club, take Seibold and your journeymen and go find yourself another club.

Leave them alone. The attacks must stop.

And no, this isn't an invitation for yet another bout of savaging them though I know that many of you numpties will.

Signed,

Furious and Over It

PS I'm sorry your mothers didn't love you, but I'm starting to understand it

Respectfully, do you have a problem with the much more incendiary criticism that gets routinely gets directed at the club, coach, and 28 other players (most of whom get paid much less)... or is it only an issue when Jake and Tom get criticised?

Some people go too far. But this club is about to miss the finals for the 7th time in the last 11 seasons (under 4 coaches). Either all players should be fair game for criticism if their on-field performance warrants it, or none of them should be. But if it's the latter then there wouldn't be a discussion forum.
 
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Respectfully, do you have a problem with the much more incendiary criticism that gets routinely gets directed at the club, coach, and 28 other players (most of whom get paid much less)... or is it only an issue when Jake and Tom get criticised?

Some people go too far. But this club is about to miss the finals for the 7th time in the last 11 seasons (under 4 coaches). Either all players should be fair game for criticism if their on-field performance warrants it, or none of them should be. But if it's the latter then there wouldn't be a discussion forum.
My goodness some of you are slow on the uptake.

Criticism = all good.
Abuse = not criticism.
 
Respectfully, do you have a problem with the much more incendiary criticism that gets routinely gets directed at the club, coach, and 28 other players (most of whom get paid much less)... or is it only an issue when Jake and Tom get criticised?

Some people go too far. But this club is about to miss the finals for the 7th time in the last 11 seasons (under 4 coaches). Either all players should be fair game for criticism if their on-field performance warrants it, or none of them should be. But if it's the latter then there wouldn't be a discussion forum.
The posts I've read lately have pretty much landed the whole fall of the Manly empire at the feet of the brothers.

We all know what Tommy has been through with injuries and he's done everything the club has asked of him. He had no way of knowing the injuries that were ahead of him when he signed his contract and, when the injuries kept happening, attempted to get his contract reduced. Yep, he's out of form but he never stops trying.

Seibold has no idea what to do with Jake and is ruining what's left of his career. His defence was massively missed last week as was his motivational rants.

All I want from Manly players is to keep trying their guts out with every ounce of talent they have, and this is what we get from Tom and Jake.

I remain hopeful that Tommy overcomes his confidence issues and that a new coach uses Jake's abilities.

Criticism is fine, but the pile on I've seen lately toward two former rep players who put in every week and love the club has left me in despair
 
Almost completely ignorant? Rest assured, no movies have been watched, nor books read.
Mate I wouldn’t boast about not reading any books, books expand your mind mate, at a bare minimum at least read the safety booklet when you next board a plane
 
One thing I do feel very very sorry for is the boys deserved to win a GF before their days were done.

It’s clear that isn’t going happen as I really can’t see us getting anywhere near a big one anytime soon.

There wouldn’t be two more deserving winners in our history than them.

Almost all of our greats have a Premiership.

For that I’m really sad.
 

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