Todd Carney Combined Mega Thread
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Ron E. Gibbs
First Grader
Yeah, unfortunately they're exempt.
He would be an outstanding pickup if we could get him. Easily has the best passing game of any half around at the moment
sheridanstand78
First Grader
A big no thanks! Manly need youth an we need to develop our 20s pair of halves over the next 2 years and then promote them as we did with our current halves.
MadMarcus
Toovey for NRL CEO
Don't you mean pissing game?
The Indian
Bencher
Without even starting on the whole off field grub stuff I don't want him at my club just on playing ability.
Every time somebody talks about Carney the fact he won Dally M player of the year gets brought up. Its usually conveniently forgotten that this award is heavily voted upon and influenced by news limited journos like Kent and Rothfield etc who aren't the sort of people whose judgement anyone values. If you play in the halves in a winning team and do some flashy stuff your halfway to being dally m player of the year. Plus by seasons end it will be 5 years ago.
He's a decent player but a multiple confirmed dope on and off the field - the hype always been far greater than the reality. We would be insane to pay him big $$$ and if the clubs idea of smart business is letting a potential champion like DCE go and instead throwing cash at a bloke like Carney and trying to dress mutton up as lamb then all I can say is give me a break .
Every time somebody talks about Carney the fact he won Dally M player of the year gets brought up. Its usually conveniently forgotten that this award is heavily voted upon and influenced by news limited journos like Kent and Rothfield etc who aren't the sort of people whose judgement anyone values. If you play in the halves in a winning team and do some flashy stuff your halfway to being dally m player of the year. Plus by seasons end it will be 5 years ago.
He's a decent player but a multiple confirmed dope on and off the field - the hype always been far greater than the reality. We would be insane to pay him big $$$ and if the clubs idea of smart business is letting a potential champion like DCE go and instead throwing cash at a bloke like Carney and trying to dress mutton up as lamb then all I can say is give me a break .
Ryan
Journey Man
Or, he realises this is it. He uses people like Menzies, Ballin, Stewart as a mentor, and does the right thing. He knuckles down given his age and matures. Manly potentially get a State of Origin quality half, and probably on very low coin.
A one year deal - $350k. Hurts no-one. If he plays well, buys into the culture, we extend. If he is a loose cannon, we are no worse off than we are right now with all the off field garbage.
At this stage, we have to give it a shot. He's better quality than Hodko, Elgey & others. Play Feleti at 5/8, and we are WELL in front and could possibly buy, Sam & Tom Burgess as well.
We'd have a monster side, similar to Souths and Chooks.
SEA Eagles godfather Ken Arthurson has backed the club using their war chest to chase star Sam Burgess and Todd Carney after confirmation yesterday that Kieran Foran will join Parramatta next season.
The star five-eight informed his teammates of his decision yesterday morning at the club’s Narrabeen headquarters.
“I think Manly should be moving very quickly,” Arthurson told the Manly Daily.
“I have read there is a chance of Sam Burgess coming, well I would be certainly jumping on a plane and grabbing him if I could.”
That could be a similar scenario to the time Arthurson pulled off one of the biggest coups in Manly history when he signed English forward Mal Reilly in 1971.
“They were all chasing him, I just didn’t tell anyone, I jumped on a plane and went over and signed him up and no one knew I was gone,” Arthurson said.
“Whatever’s got to be done, just do it.”
Arthurson, recognised as one of rugby league’s most astute ever administrators, rates Carney as a really top-line player.
“They wouldn’t lose if they had him at five-eighth, I’ll tell you that,” he said.
Carney has been linked to Manly and is currently playing in France after he was banished from the NRL after a number of indiscretions.
But Arthurson has no doubt that Manly could keep him in line.
You can discipline anyone, you really can and (CEO) Joe Kelly would certainly be able to discipline him,” he said.
“And in the light of things what’s happened he would be disciplined himself anyway.
“I’ve had players come to Manly over the years with unbelievably bad reputations but when the law was laid down they respond and they always have with Manly.”
Kelly was already looking ahead to the future following confirmation that Foran would follow halfback Daly Cherry-Evans out of the club at the end of this season.
“The club is now in a position of having the resources necessary to recruit some of the best talent in the marketplace, to ensure that the Sea Eagles remain a dominant team in the NRL,” he said.
Arthurson was both surprised and disappointed that Foran was leaving Manly.
“I know he has some close friends in the club here and at the end of the day I thought that would have influenced him,” he said.
“And I think he would have been aware that one day he would be taking over the leadership role at Manly.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-and-todd-carney/story-fngr8iii-1227265045823
The star five-eight informed his teammates of his decision yesterday morning at the club’s Narrabeen headquarters.
“I think Manly should be moving very quickly,” Arthurson told the Manly Daily.
“I have read there is a chance of Sam Burgess coming, well I would be certainly jumping on a plane and grabbing him if I could.”
That could be a similar scenario to the time Arthurson pulled off one of the biggest coups in Manly history when he signed English forward Mal Reilly in 1971.
“They were all chasing him, I just didn’t tell anyone, I jumped on a plane and went over and signed him up and no one knew I was gone,” Arthurson said.
“Whatever’s got to be done, just do it.”
Arthurson, recognised as one of rugby league’s most astute ever administrators, rates Carney as a really top-line player.
“They wouldn’t lose if they had him at five-eighth, I’ll tell you that,” he said.
Carney has been linked to Manly and is currently playing in France after he was banished from the NRL after a number of indiscretions.
But Arthurson has no doubt that Manly could keep him in line.
You can discipline anyone, you really can and (CEO) Joe Kelly would certainly be able to discipline him,” he said.
“And in the light of things what’s happened he would be disciplined himself anyway.
“I’ve had players come to Manly over the years with unbelievably bad reputations but when the law was laid down they respond and they always have with Manly.”
Kelly was already looking ahead to the future following confirmation that Foran would follow halfback Daly Cherry-Evans out of the club at the end of this season.
“The club is now in a position of having the resources necessary to recruit some of the best talent in the marketplace, to ensure that the Sea Eagles remain a dominant team in the NRL,” he said.
Arthurson was both surprised and disappointed that Foran was leaving Manly.
“I know he has some close friends in the club here and at the end of the day I thought that would have influenced him,” he said.
“And I think he would have been aware that one day he would be taking over the leadership role at Manly.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-and-todd-carney/story-fngr8iii-1227265045823
Maybe the club should tell everyone we are recruiting from within....so all the slimebag managers out there stop rubbing their claws together with glee thinking they can get overs for even the most basic of players.
Then we can sign them up.
This may apply more to the elgey's than the sam burgesseses though. (If sam even wants to come back out here)
Then we can sign them up.
This may apply more to the elgey's than the sam burgesseses though. (If sam even wants to come back out here)
sheridanstand78
First Grader
Arko knows Manly must make a statement of intent after the recent upheaval. I would like to see them take their time and really consider who we need. If Sam Burgess was available it would be smart to target him and that would wipe the smile off the vermins face. We should also target some experience at least 1 half and a front rower with quality to teach the youngsters in the team.
Loobs
Living in the demountable.
JWH, Burgess or Burgesses - however many we can get, and Maloney.
Brookie Brawler
Reserve Grader
Is there some sort of dickhead quota I wasn't aware of? Finally Watmough is not our problem anymore. Come on Manly please don't just go out and get an even bigger idiot. Sponsors are too hard to come by nowadays and Carney isn't getting any younger either.
As someone else mentioned, I really hope the Carney angle is just a smokescreen.
As someone else mentioned, I really hope the Carney angle is just a smokescreen.
HappilyManly
Journey Man
The fawning over Foz is apparent even by Arko and points to why Chez was so open about shopping around.
I think its a disgrace how the Club releases a statement about Foz, but the current Dally M Half back, Clive Churchill Medalist departure is not sen as a loss by the Club nor Arko - WTF ?😡
Arko's influence did not persuade Foz to stay, so why would his opinion matter to Players out in the market?
Carney has more knee problems than Hodko, surely there are better options for next year.
Mateo killed it on Saturday and every expert had ridiculed 2v for picking him as our 5/8.
Mateo is 194cm and 108kg and will probably face off against T-ex at 192cm and 118kg on Friday. Bigger is better 😛
I think its a disgrace how the Club releases a statement about Foz, but the current Dally M Half back, Clive Churchill Medalist departure is not sen as a loss by the Club nor Arko - WTF ?😡
Arko's influence did not persuade Foz to stay, so why would his opinion matter to Players out in the market?
Carney has more knee problems than Hodko, surely there are better options for next year.
Mateo killed it on Saturday and every expert had ridiculed 2v for picking him as our 5/8.
Mateo is 194cm and 108kg and will probably face off against T-ex at 192cm and 118kg on Friday. Bigger is better 😛
HappilyManly
Journey Man
Club did not officially announce anything about Chez apart from 'Offer Withdrawn'.
The year's of service and achievement is unrecognized for one but not the other😎
The old news is that the Club is openly playing favourites - does not bode well for recruitment as Players will know that they have to be in clique to be valued😎
bones
Bones Knows
Glenn was in clique. Didn't help him much.
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