Post-Game Discussion Tigers V Manly [Round 25, 2024]

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Game Information

Tigers
Vs
Sea Eagles
34 Leichhardt Oval
22 Aug 2024 19:50
80:00 minute
26

Match Stats

Niallcc

Member
Our dummy halves were awful. Koula and Saab had a night to forget. The pack was dominated by he Tigers pack. But the Tigers got a huge leg up. At 16 nil down to receive 6 straight penalties and have the opposition a man short for 30 minutes turned the game on it's head and IMO was not deserved. The Tigers lay all over us and pushed and shoved us in the ruck during the first half and they were not penalized. They constantly walked off the mark taking the marker out and most of the time nothing. We get reamed and poor Bullemore gets sent to the bin for spending less time on the tackled player than the Tigers were. Frankly I did not consider that Big O's tackled warranted 10 minutes his shoulder made clear contact with the chest of the player and there was no contact with the head. The commentators saw it the same way. I felt sorry for the boys. Its a miracle that they only lost by 8. I'm not watching anymore live football there is no pleasure in what I had to endure last night. IMO the contest was destroyed.
And when the Tigers put on a clear high shot, penalty only, no report and no bin. This is twice now in the space of a month where I have gone to games (Roosters - also got flu from packed into light rail) and the ref has played a big part in the outcome.
 

Ron E. Gibbs

First Grader
We had an opportunity to make a statement last night, and unfortunately we made the wrong one. Instead of solidifying our spot in the finals and showing we could be a threat to the top teams, we reverted to type and showed the NRL exactly what we're made of: not much. Sure, we can score tries in bunches, but we can concede them in even bigger bunches. We have no grit, and no matter how far we are ahead, we can always be reeled in. We've been that way all season (for more than one season, really), so it's hard to believe we'll suddenly change our ways.

I don't care what the statistics say, we are not a good defensive side. The players have no stomach for it. And until we make defence a priority, we will always be also-rans.
 

SeaEagle007

Reserve Grader
Last nights loss is a Reflection of the coach , and his Presser was just as disappointing.. Too scared to say it like it is. Also the 5 th time this year we have surrendered a lead that should see us cruise to victory.. Even if we make the 8 which I think we will , we are just making up numbers.. I thought we were starting to turn a corner , but nope Seibold had to prove my concerns correct fromt he start of the year.. Don't hate the bloke , but he's a plodder. The team we have , there is no excuse but to make Top 4, and the 5 winning leads we have blown comfortably has us up in the Top 2, instead we are fighting to even get in....
 

JakeyB789

Reserve Grader
Brutal loss to take when you consider:

  • Now likely to finish 7th or 8th and have no home final
  • Another blown lead to bring the tally up to 5 for the year
  • Refereeing was abhorrent
  • Brooks against his old side was terrible
  • Tom (minus the non-tackle attempt on Seyfarth) had one of his best games in years and we still lost
  • Latu and Samuela Fainu starred...we let them go over a dick swinging contest between Mestrov and their manager. And this was after we stood by their older brother in jail for years in the hope he'd turn out to be the hooker we've needed for 5 years and counting
 

Merdy33

Reserve Grader
the usually politically correct yes man BS from our idiot coach
Funny. His presser actually supported exactly what you said. He didn’t blame the referee at all and put it squarely on the players’ lack of discipline and that this compounded into the errors that occurred as we were chasing points.
Had he blamed the referee then the players could write the game off as that. But he put it back on them to improve.
We will now need to wait and see if that happens.
 

joeboy

Bencher
I’m still pissed at the result of this game. Just needed one senior player to stand up with Tim and we would’ve got there but none of them looked like they cared.

Brookes, croker, Garrick, ola, Jake,aloai. Just one morr player prepared to win.

It’s two weeks fro. Finals, we have thrown away our advantage and don’t look like and didn’t play like we care at all.

We simply need to get rid of the non performers.

Brookes has been 80% trash this year and at 40 odd, dce still I’ll can’t lead us to victory and come up with the right plays
 

The Royal Soup

First Grader
Funny. His presser actually supported exactly what you said. He didn’t blame the referee at all and put it squarely on the players’ lack of discipline and that this compounded into the errors that occurred as we were chasing points.
Had he blamed the referee then the players could write the game off as that. But he put it back on them to improve.
We will now need to wait and see if that happens.
yes i agree but he’s a yes man for penn
 

The Who

Journey Man
I’m still pissed at the result of this game. Just needed one senior player to stand up with Tim and we would’ve got there but none of them looked like they cared.

Brookes, croker, Garrick, ola, Jake,aloai. Just one morr player prepared to win.

It’s two weeks fro. Finals, we have thrown away our advantage and don’t look like and didn’t play like we care at all.

We simply need to get rid of the non performers.

Brookes has been 80% trash this year and at 40 odd, dce still I’ll can’t lead us to victory and come up with the right plays
Turbo was the only player who hadn't read the script. He still believed we could win a fair match.
What a guy; a real romantic at heart. Unfortunately, in Vegas Rugbba League good guys who play for insignificant clubs come last.
 

The Indian

Bencher
Rd 3 Led 12 - 0 V Parra and LOST
R6 Led 16-0 v Warriors and Drew
R9 Led 20-0 v Raiders and LOST
Rd 10 Led 16-4 over Dolphins and LOST
Rd 14 Led 14-4 Over Panthers and LOST
Rd 18 Led 18-6 Over Cowboys and DREW then won Golden Point
Rd 25 Led 16-0 Tigers and LOST

5 of these losses are against teams outside the 8. It's clear as dogs balls that our gameplan when in front is diabolical and needs fixing.

The NRL website page I used to get these summaries is linked to the video of the post game press conferences. Each loss shows a still video of 2 bemused looking talking heads facing the media. The same two blokes each time sitting in a press conference after each of these collapse losses giving blank faced explanations to camera and at a total loss to explain how it happened again. You don't need a Harvard Degree or have played halfback for 14 seasons to see something is wrong.

"Gee shucks I don't know... ummmmm... we've just got to be better"
 

JakeyB789

Reserve Grader
Need better leadership on the field as much as we do off it. When your captain and halfback consistently lacks composure and temperament it rubs off on the rest of the side, it's no surprise we've blown so many leads and always struggle to regain momentum when things start going against us. This has been happening well before Seibold was coach too

Forget Jake as captain as well, as long as Tom stays fit and on the field he should have the (c) next to his name. Best player on any field he walks onto, leads by example, local junior. He commands respect and it's the main change I'd be making in the off-season
 

wombatgc

KT 623
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Yeah thought so, stopped viewing these a long time ago.
Pretty surprised by those liking the presser.
If ever there was a time to chuck a Ricky, this was it.
Manly got what Manly deserved, yeah we weren’t great, but the Tigers getting 6 penalties in less than 20 minutes, plus the first of three bullshiit sin-bins. Did anyone go back and watch Bullemores sin-bin? ( because Fox never did, also the dropped ball in the second half, nothing to see, move on).
Siebold is too passive for mine. And that was reflected in the players.
And why is Simpkins playing reggies. He should be getting the 14 jersey at the very least.
And Lodge, get him back for some mongrel in the forwards.
And Saab can have a week in reggies too. Bring Ray-Ray back. The Dogs are going to flog us anyway, so might as well dish out some much needed discipline.

Sorry about my little rant there @Eagle 1 . The daughter and I just had our usual post-game debrief. It didn’t go well. Much to soon. Actually we might try and never talk of this game again.
 

Highflier

Bencher
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Last nights loss is a Reflection of the coach , and his Presser was just as disappointing.. Too scared to say it like it is. Also the 5 th time this year we have surrendered a lead that should see us cruise to victory.. Even if we make the 8 which I think we will , we are just making up numbers.. I thought we were starting to turn a corner , but nope Seibold had to prove my concerns correct fromt he start of the year.. Don't hate the bloke , but he's a plodder. The team we have , there is no excuse but to make Top 4, and the 5 winning leads we have blown comfortably has us up in the Top 2, instead we are fighting to even get in....
so disappointing when you say it like that .
Im still in shock from last night ,I cannot believe what happened, and appalled at the run of 6 agains and dubious bins from the moment Jake pulled off what was a perfectly good and legitimate tackle.
How can the ref and clunker get basic stuff so wrong or is it truely a manufactured outcome (i find that hard to believe ,but some of the calls last night you have to wonder ? )
As others have said before Saab a terrible performance, Koula doesn't seem to think at all ,and as much as I love his grit Croker is not a 9 .We have not looked the same since Siebold stopped picking Simpkins who has me and others have said runs those forwards onto the ball at pace giving us more time space and ruck speed .API cut us 3 new arseholes last night .
For me Lodge in place of Oshay ,Lawton to BR ,Talua into center ,Simpkin in 9/14 and Croker 9/14 ,with Brown into lock .
Anyways still shaking my head ,I actually hope in a way the players dont feel the same as I do as I feel we have just thrown away our season and that we have gone from pushing for top 4 to now maybe scrapping into or missing the 8 ,and with that they maybe too mentally and emotionally scarred to get up on friday night .
Unbelievable ,just unbelievable
 

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