Three players set to be targeted by ASADA over use of banned peptide CJC-1295

12 month ban for the Son of Sam for thinking that someone like The Gazelle was a professional 😡

Dank comes across as proficient as the Mandela Deaf Interpreter as well. :s

Manly should stick with Donny's old fashioned hard yakka and Wolfie's raw diet 🙂
 
HappilyManly said:
12 month ban for the Son of Sam for thinking that someone like The Gazelle was a professional 😡

Dank comes across as proficient as the Mandela Deaf Interpreter as well. :s

Manly should stick with Donny's old fashioned hard yakka and Wolfie's raw diet 🙂

Is son of sam now modelling his hair on the Gazelles hair style?
 
It does appear to have been a massive political diversion now. Blackest day in Aussie sport.. pffft
 
ASADA, Go and Get F........

This whole episode with Asada, and with those muppet politicians who gave that pathetic press conference, is a disgrace. They need to lose their jobs over this. The damage this has done to our sporting reputation is nothing short of criminal. Other countries have been laughing at us about this, and what are those mouth pieces doing now?? Nothing. Just hiding away.

Absolute friggin disgrace.
 
mickqld said:
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Killer03 said:
Other countries have been laughing at us
OMG - which ones?

I think it was Gabon and Mali...ohh and that other third world country New Zealand.

Yep hilarious guys, the UK was the big ones, but there have been articles and press in a lot of countries basically ridiculing our hypocrisy that we claim to be whiter than white (especially with competitions like the Olympics and how we like to tar certain countries as drug cheats, or in cricket where we like to think Pakistan and India are involved in dodgey match fixing...but we could never possibly be) and then this press conference comes out which puts a massive question mark over sport in this country. And personally I think that's a disgrace. Put up or shut up. That's been my mantra with ASADA right from the start. If there's evidence and something has happened, then take those individuals, organisations to task. But to give the whole of Australian sport such a punch in the face, and then provide big fat donut...I think its disgusting.
 
I wonder with (the benefit of hindsight) any of those sporting ceo's would have turned up at that infamous press conference?
 
Killer03 said:
we claim to be whiter than white
Ian Chappell reckons you're off your rocker 😉

Ian Chappell, regarded as one of Australia's fiercest cricket captains, says match fixing could bring the game down and that no player or country can escape suspicion.

"If you came out and said all the players are clean from any country, you'd be off your rocker," he told the ABC's 7.30


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-22/match-fixing-could-bring-cricket-down-chappell/5471888
 
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Killer03 said:
we claim to be whiter than white
Ian Chappell reckons you're off your rocker 😉

Ian Chappell, regarded as one of Australia's fiercest cricket captains, says match fixing could bring the game down and that no player or country can escape suspicion.

"If you came out and said all the players are clean from any country, you'd be off your rocker," he told the ABC's 7.30


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-22/match-fixing-could-bring-cricket-down-chappell/5471888

What on earth has match-fixing, and associated gambling in cricket, got to do with ASADA and drug breaches in rugby league (and AFL etc). ?

Completely different .

Drawing any comparisons between the two is far more loopy than @Killer03 being rightly concerned about how other countries see us and ASADA, and this epic mess.
 
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Killer03 said:
we claim to be whiter than white
Ian Chappell reckons you're off your rocker 😉

Ian Chappell, regarded as one of Australia's fiercest cricket captains, says match fixing could bring the game down and that no player or country can escape suspicion.

"If you came out and said all the players are clean from any country, you'd be off your rocker," he told the ABC's 7.30


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-22/match-fixing-could-bring-cricket-down-chappell/5471888

I completely agree, I don't think we are whiter than white. Every country has bad eggs and has people involved in shady activities.

What I don't like is having our entire sporting framework and culture put under a massive cloud by politicians who aren't held to account for their outlandish statements.

Can you imagine if I or you came out and made these claims, we'd be in court.
 
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/afl-to-emerge-as-big-losers-from-asada-inquiry-but-nrl-faces-rosier-report-card-20140718-ztv97.html
 
Chip and Chase said:
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/afl-to-emerge-as-big-losers-from-asada-inquiry-but-nrl-faces-rosier-report-card-20140718-ztv97.html

I'm not sure about league being a beneficiary of any loss of government sponsorship by the AFL but it is interesting that Roy appears to be saying that what might ultimately save the Sharks is their incompetence and being run as an amateur operation.
 
Masked Eagle said:
Chip and Chase said:
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/afl-to-emerge-as-big-losers-from-asada-inquiry-but-nrl-faces-rosier-report-card-20140718-ztv97.html

I'm not sure about league being a beneficiary of any loss of government sponsorship by the AFL but it is interesting that Roy appears to be saying that what might ultimately save the Sharks is their incompetence and being run as an amateur operation.

Since when has incompetence ever been an excuse for breaking the law?
 
tookey said:
Masked Eagle said:
Chip and Chase said:
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/afl-to-emerge-as-big-losers-from-asada-inquiry-but-nrl-faces-rosier-report-card-20140718-ztv97.html

I'm not sure about league being a beneficiary of any loss of government sponsorship by the AFL but it is interesting that Roy appears to be saying that what might ultimately save the Sharks is their incompetence and being run as an amateur operation.

Since when has incompetence ever been an excuse for breaking the law?

Too often!
 
Tellingly the report notes that the ALP saw a need for quick results are going off early in the initial 'blackest day' effort, when there simply wasn't any genuine evidence at the time of all the things they spoke of.
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ALP wanted Essendon punished

CHIP LE GRAND | The Australian | August 13, 2014 12:00AM

THE Gillard government wanted Essendon stripped of premiership points and club employees sacked amid growing concern they “over-egged’’ the release of an Australian Crime Commission report into drugs in sport on the so-called “blackest day in Australian sport.’’

Revealing the level of political involvement in the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and AFL’s joint investigation of Essendon, former ASADA chief executive Aurora Andruska recounted to the Federal Court former sports minister Kate Lundy’s determination to strike a deal to punish Essendon.

A Federal Court trial into the legality of the joint investigation heard evidence that by June 13, 2013 the AFL had its “ducks all lined up,’’ to suspend senior coach James Hird for six months or much longer. Hird was suspended for 12 months on August 27 after ASADA provided the AFL with an interim report of the investigation.

Ms Andruska, the ASADA chief executive throughout the Essendon supplements saga, said she ignored political pressure on the investigation. However, she recalled a series of meetings where Senator Lundy or government advisers made clear their desire for a quick outcome.

Ms Andruska told the court that at one meeting, David Lording, a corporate and government communications consultant brought in to advise ASADA, said Senator Lundy needed a deal with the AFL and ASADA to relieve political angst created by her decision, along with then justice minister Jason Clare, to invite sports chiefs to attend a February 7 release of the ACC report.

Ms Andruska’s notes of the June meeting read: “Deal with AFL. Support staff sacked. Points off. Players off.’’

“It was his (Mr Lording’s) words, Lundy needs something. He is talking about the political situation to start with. The minister can’t do anything, it is all in ASADA’s court.

“She needs something, she needs probably a deal with the AFL but she can’t do anything without ASADA agreeing. That was his ... view as to what might have been going on in the minister’s mind.’’

Essendon and Hird are challenging the legality of the ASADA and AFL investigation into the club which resulted in anti-doping proceedings against 34 former and current players accused of taking a banned substance.

ASADA maintains its investigation was lawful.

Throughout a five-hour cross examination by counsel for Essendon Neil Young QC, Ms Andruska gave painstaking evidence about the joint investigation.

Ms Andruska was asked to explain why, given ASADA’s statutory obligation to operate independent of government, Gillard government officials were routinely present during meetings and telephone hook-ups throughout the investigation.

The former ASADA boss, who retired in May, detailed a May 24 meeting she attended with then AFL boss Andrew Demetriou, league integrity manager Brett Clothier, Senator Lundy and her media adviser Chris Owens. At the meeting, Mr Demetriou told ASADA the existing “timeline’’ for the delivery of an ASADA report was “completely unacceptable’’ and the AFL needed something by the end of July, well before the finals series. ASADA knew the AFL intended to use the report in disciplinary proceedings against the club.

Justice John Middleton asked Ms Andruska whether it was unusual for her to be at a meeting with the minister, her press adviser and the head of a sporting body. “Yes it was,’’ she said.

The court was told that Richard Eccles, a Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet deputy secretary responsible for sport, had a “persisting involvement’’ in the investigation from January, 2013, when he attended a briefing with the ACC about Operation Aperio, a year-long investigation into the use of peptides at sporting clubs and links to organised crime.

Mr Eccles was later party to a phone hook-up with Ms Andruska and Mr Clothier on February 1, when it was discussed how ASADA could use the AFL’s coercive powers to conduct an investigation into Essendon. Mr Eccles was also present at a June 4 meeting, along with Mr Owens, when AFL deputy chief executive Gillon McLachlan expressed concern about the impact the saga could have on finals ticket sales.

The court heard that Essendon was clearly identified as the target of the ACC probe at a meeting of AFL chiefs on January 31.

In evidence that contradicts repeated, public statements by Mr Andrew Demetriou, Ms Andruska confirmed an exchange at the meeting where Mr McLachlan asked ACC executive director Paul Jevtovic whether Essendon was the club under investigation.

Ms Andruska testified, Mr Jevtovic responded: “say no more.’’

“When these words were said you immediately recognised there had been a clear identification by the ACC that one of the clubs was Essendon, didn’t you?’’ Mr Young asked. “I agree,’’ Ms Andruska said. Justice Middleton described Mr Jevtovic’s remark as a “wink and a nod’’ to everyone in the room.
 
Gee there will be some disappointed posters in this thread. There was more than one person posting here who was adamant it was not political, it was all true and that we were likely caught up in the whole mess.

It seems that this was a monumental political beat up from the beginning, just as most of us had suspected.
 
So what happens if Essendon win? Better question, will it Affect the NRL? Seems to have gone very quiet. Probably to do with the court case I guess.
 

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