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Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Berkeley_Eagle, Jul 18, 2008.

  1. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

    +2,125 /14
    So what are your thoughts about tonights game ?

    18 point difference didn't really show the gap between the 2 teams
    Great defence , a lot of urgency shown right thru the game
    Perry seemed very quiet tonight
    Hall was great off the bench
    Ballins game is improving every week, got himself another 1st try for Manly with his clever runs
    Glenn Stewart was again very good with lots of solid hits and some great passes
    Brett Stewarts pass to Matai was Sensational, really deserved the MoM

    Robson seemed to be out of his depth

    Parramatta  in brackets

    Errors: 11 (7)
    Completions: 30/39 (29/36)
    Penalties: 8 (7)
    Scrums: 5 (4)
    Tackles: 262 (292)
    1 on 1 Tackles: 22 (11)
    Missed Tackles: 31 (29)
    Line Breaks: 7 (5)
    Offloads: 6 (9)
    Runs: 150 (142)
    Runs Metres: 1172m (1098m)
    Try Assists: 3 (2)
    40/20s: 0 (0)
    Line Dropouts: 0 (0)

  2. eggson

    eggson Well-Known Member

    +305 /2
    From what i saw in the second half, Robson was NOT involved in any tries.  i was worried as hell at the start of the game.  but everything came out tops and showed how hard the team is
  3. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

    +2,125 /14
    18,970 @ Brookvale
  4. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +3,894 /65
    Go easy on Robson fellas

    Wasn't great, but at least he didn't try to overplay his hand too much. Did a reasonable job in the situation he was put in
  5. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

    +516 /14
    Robson was far from disastrous. 
  6. DSM5

    DSM5 Well-Known Member

    +516 /0
    I thought Robson went OK.  Williams defense was again a little shaky.  He needs to adjust the up and in near his line.  Matai was MoM in my opinion and he's proving me wrong which is great for us.  His major hits were awesome and inspiring and he ran the ball back stongly.  Bell should be shot for not passing to Beaver.  Parra were majorly disappointing.  They just expose Hagan as the weak coach he is who relied on Johns and buderus to get him anywhere.     
  7. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

    +2,125 /14
    Watch the highlights here


    Sea Eagles cruise past Eels
    By Steve Jancetic
    July 18, 2008

    TWO things became abundantly clear as injury-hit ladder leaders Manly ground out a 28-10 NRL win over Parramatta at Brookvale Oval.

    One is that the Eels are so far out of finals contention they may as well talk to their travel agents about an end of season trip for September.

    The second is that while Manly are the form side of the competition, they will need Matt Orford back on deck to go all the way.

    While the 18-point win looked comfortable on the scoreboard, it was more a case of guts and grit overcoming an opponent devoid of confidence with Manly running away with it after the break to record a six tries to two win.

    The Sea Eagles were always going to struggle when Orford failed a pre-game fitness test on his thigh, while the 18th minute loss of their only other recognised playmaker in Jamie Lyon with a knee injury made it near on mission impossible.

    It fell to 25-year-old lower grade half-back Jeff Robson to get them home, Robson playing just his fifth game in the top grade and first since 2004.

    His four previous games had all ended in defeat and it was easy to see why over the opening half hour.

    Robson and hence the Sea Eagles, looked lost, and it was only a Refs Calls decision against Chad Robinson that denied the Eels a 12-0 lead after Mark Riddell's opening four-pointer.

    The Sea Eagles shuffled things around with Brett Stewart and veteran backrower Steve Menzies taking a bigger slice of the playmaking duties.

    It wasn't fluid, but the Sea Eagles found their way, Matt Ballin diving over from dummy half before David Williams took advantage of a poor Joel Reddy pass to score just seconds before halftime.

    Parramatta's reply was instant after the break with future Sea Eagle Tony Williams making it 10-all before a crucial penalty against Reddy as he tussled for the ball with Stewart turned the match.

    Not only did it put a stop to a dangerous Parramatta attacking raid, it put the Sea Eagles in the Eels danger zone, Anthony Watmough crashing through some feeble defence a few plays later to give the home side a lead they would never relinquish.

    From there it was as if Manly forgot Orford and Lyon weren't out there as David Williams crossed for his second before Steve Matai matched him with a double of his own as the Sea Eagles toyed with Parramatta.

    The win was tempered by Lyon's medial ligament strain which threatens to sideline the former international for a few weeks while prop Jason King could be out for longer after injuring his left ankle.

    Lyon said he remained hopeful of getting back on the field before the finals.

    "I think maybe six weeks, I'll have to wait until Monday when I get my scan," Lyon said.

    "I was just tackling Hindy and my leg flew over and I just hit hit it and twisted it. I couldn't get any movement in it and it just felt really tight.

    "It's a bad time to get it hopefully I'll be back before semis."

    Manly's seventh straight win tested coach Des Hasler's mantra of 'flying under the radar', but the softly spoken mentor refused to get too excited.

    "It's just the reality of the closeness of this competition ... fortunes can change so much from game to game particularly with injury," he said.

    Eels coach Michael Hagan admitted his side had blown a golden opportunity to stay in touch with the top eight.

    "I thought without Orford and when Lyon went off we were a genuine hope," Hagan said.

    "I think tonight was a very important game for our end of season chances in terms of how we played and hopefully coming up with an upset.

    "We said five from eight last week and I guess it's five from seven from here on in."

  8. Fluffy

    Fluffy Well-Known Member

    +5,634 /205
    Thoughts on tonight:

    we won, well, with 15 healthy players, 2 late withdrawels, neither of our main playmakers for 60+ minutes and refs/touchies that were on acid.

    So yep, cant complain
  9. Jethro

    Jethro This space is for rent Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +2,307 /13


    Manly win both halves with no halves
    Written by: Andrew Cook
    July 18th, 2008 9:47pm

    The Manly Sea Eagles will hold first place on the ladder for at least another week after a solid 28-10 victory over a lacklustre Parramatta Eels side at Brookvale Oval tonight.

    It was a shaky start to the match for the competition leaders, who not only conceded the first try to Parramatta hooker Mark Riddell, but were also forced to overcome the late withdrawal of halfback Matt Orford and an early injury to five-eighth Jamie Lyon. Their attack was understandably affected with a makeshift halves combination struggling to maintain any pressure, but their forwards continued to lay the platform before Matt Ballin was able to squeeze across to level the scores in the 28th minute.

    From that point Manly lifted a couple of gears while Parramatta remained in neutral. Centre Steve Bell managed to bomb a try for the home side before half-time but redeemed himself by providing the final pass for the first of winger David Williams’ two tries just before the halftime break.

    The Eels snuck across out wide for an early second half try to give their fans a glimmer of hope, but it was quickly extinguished as Anthony Watmough crashed over a few minutes later to restore the six-point advantage. The Sea Eagles attack then really began to click into gear as David Williams crossed for his second before a late double to centre Steve Matai sealed the victory in front of a happy home crowd.

    Although he missed out on his normally mandatory Brookvale try, fullback Brett Stewart was outstanding for the Sea Eagles tonight by stepping up to guide the backline in the absence of their normal on-field generals. Their forwards also overpowered the Parramatta pack, with Brent Kite and Glenn Hall chewing through plenty of work up front.

    Despite the odd flash of promise, Parramatta were never really in the hunt for this one. Krisnan Inu looked sharp in the backline, but their gamble of playing Jarryd Hayne at fullback didn’t pay off. Aside from Fuifui Moimoi, their forward pack looks in desperate need of an injection of fresh blood.

    Match Details
    Manly Sea Eagles 28 def Parramatta Eels 10
    Round 19 - Friday July 18th, 2008 7:45pm
    Venue: Brookvale Oval
    Referee: Shayne Hayne
    Touch Judges: Steve Chiddy, Bernard Sutton
    Video Referee: Chris Ward
    Crowd: 18,970
    Halftime: Sea Eagles 10-6

    Manly Sea Eagles 28
    Tries: David Williams (2), Steve Matai (2), Matt Ballin, Anthony Watmough
    Goals: David Williams (2/6)
    Parramatta Eels 10
    Tries: Mark Riddell, Tony Williams
    Goals: Krisnan Inu (1/2)

    LeagueUnlimited.com Player of the Match
    3 Points: Brett Stewart (Sea Eagles)
    2 Points: Steve Matai (Sea Eagles)
    1 Point: Krisnan Inu (Eels)
  10. Jethro

    Jethro This space is for rent Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Refer: http://sportal.com.au/league-news-display/injured-sea-eagles-win-easy-52684

    Injured Sea Eagles win easy
    18/07/2008 9:31:34 PM
    Steve Orme

    Manly has overcome a heavy injury toll to record a 28-10 victory over a lack-lustre Parramatta side at Brookvale Oval on Friday night.

    Having already lost skipper Matt Orford (abductor) an hour before kick-off, the Sea Eagles lost pivot Jamie Lyon and luckless prop Jason King before half-time.

    Despite their misfortune the Eagles held a slender half-time lead and after an early equaliser from the Eels and piled on four unanswered tries in the second stanza to seal their seventh-successive victory

    The Eels have fallen away badly after a promising start to the season to remain stranded outside the top eight following their third-straight loss.

    After an innocuous opening it was the visitors who opened the scoring when Mark Riddell sliced through the Manly defence in the 12th minute.

    Krisnan Inu added the extras from directly in front to steal the early 6-0 lead.

    The Sea Eagles crossed four minutes later only to be denied when referee Shayne Hayne ruled the final pass to Anthony Watmough travelled forward.

    The hosts were fortunate not to fall further behind midway through the opening stanza when Chad Robinson was ruled not to have grounded the ball over the Eagles line.

    Manly was soon dealt another major blow when King hobbled from the field clutching his foot having just entered the fray off the bench after an 11-week absence from a similar injury.

    But despite the heavy injury toll the hosts began to find their rhythm, and when Matt Ballin scurried over from dummy half the Eagles were back on level terms at 6-6 at the half-hour mark.

    And when Williams crossed out wide on the back of some smart ball movement in the final minute of the stanza, the Eagles took a 10-6 lead into the sheds.

    It took just two minutes for the Eels to square the ledger through giant winger Tony Williams who crossed out wide for his side's second try of the night.

    The Eels' joy was to be short lived when Watmough barged over in the 46th minute - Williams' added the extras from the sideline and it was 16-10 Manly's way

    Williams extended his side's lead when he crossed for his second try in the 53rd minute and when centre Steve Matai crossed minutes later the Eagles were in full command at 24-10.

    Matai made it a double with 11 minutes remaining - the Kiwi international strolling over after Brett Stewart delivered a miracle no-look-flick pass to ice the match.

    Sea Eagles 28
    Tries: Williams 2, Matai 2, Ballin, Watmough,
    Goals: Williams 2

    Eels 10
    Tries: Riddell, Williams,
    Goals: Inu

    Sportal Player of the Year:
    3 - David Williams (Sea Eagles)
    2 - Brett Stewart (Sea Eagles)
    1 - Glenn Stewart (Sea Eagles)
  11. Jethro

    Jethro This space is for rent Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Refer: http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqmatchreport/sea-eagles-smash-eels/2008/07/19/1216163157421.html

    Eagles sore but still fly

    Andrew Stevenson | July 19, 2008

    Manly 28 Parramatta 10

    PARRAMATTA limped into Brookvale Oval last night after a string of poor performances and missing star five-eighth Feleti Mateo. But it was Manly who spent the first half on one leg, losing captain and playmaker Matt Orford, ruled out before kick off, new captain Jamie Lyon, with a knee injury (after 18 minutes) and prop Jason King, with a badly damaged ankle five minutes later.

    Alone at the top of the table after they lapped Cronulla last weekend, Manly had everything to play for but very little to play with. But what they had was still enough to first give the Eels a lesson in hard-hearted football and then run away 28-10 victors.

    If losing their captain and two of their starting 17 didn't pose problems enough, the home side soon found themselves behind 6-0, courtesy of a sharp try to the competition's slowest five-eighth, Mark Riddell, standing in at the opening for Mateo.

    Patched up with the inexperienced Jeff Robson at half and Steve Menzies filling in at five-eighth, Manly took time to find a rudder.

    Time and again the Eels pushed Manly back to their line, knowing they needed to move swiftly on their wounded opponents. Left centre Krisnan Inu was a constant menace and then Chad Robinson leapt above Steve Matai to claim a Brett Finch kick and wrestle the ball towards the ground. But referee Shayne Hayne was late on the scene and unable to award the try when the video referee sent it back down as a ref's call.

    Then Jarryd Hayne rose over the top of Brett Stewart - and almost under the posts - but the Manly fullback had the presence of mind to turn and tackle his opposite number and keep the lead to a converted try.

    But when Manly got their chance, just shy of half an hour into the match, they quickly nailed the Eels with a simple dummy-half barge to hooker Matt Ballin and then levelled the score, courtesy of David Williams's conversion.

    Five minutes out from the break, Manly centre Steve Bell smashed through the line, ran 45 metres and thought he was on his way to glory, having chosen to take on Hayne rather than pass to the irrepressible Menzies who stayed in dogged support. Doubtless Bell didn't even feel Hayne's fingers brush against his right boot but it was enough to bring him down.

    But Parramatta had used their last get-out-of-jail card. Todd Lowrie was knocked over the sideline by Anthony Watmough, and Manly, with their last play of the half, spread the ball to the right wing where Stewart's speed left the defence flustered enough for David Williams to score and end the half with Manly riding an improbably 10-6 lead.

    Parramatta returned apparently better for the rest, and Finch, the last half of any experience left standing, got a cut-out ball to giant winger Tony Williams - signed to the Sea Eagles from next year - who didn't need any of his 107kg to plant the ball down and leave the scores level.

    But that was a close as the Eels would get. Watmough then steamed his battleship frame in from dummy half to reclaim the lead, extended to 16-10 with the conversion.

    Next trip to Parramatta's danger zone saw prop Glen Hall help up and then David Williams bagging a second try. With 25 minutes still to play, Manly claimed a 20-10 lead.

    And the Sea Eagles kept coming. Menzies' inside pass opened a wide channel for Watmough who put Matai in to score. With 12 minutes left Brett Stewart conjured an unbelievable pass for Matai to bag his double.

    MANLY 28 (S Matai 2 D Williams 2 M Ballin A Watmough tries D Williams 2 goals) bt PARRAMATTA 10 (M Riddell T Williams tries K Inu goal) at Brookvale Oval. Referee: S Hayne. Crowd: 18,970.
  12. Jethro

    Jethro This space is for rent Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Refer: http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2008/07/19/13875_gold-coast-sport.html

    Manly's Robson steals the show against his old club

    Pat Molihan

    July 19th, 2008

    PARRAMATTA have sunk so low that they were destroyed by a part-timer who hasn't played first grade in four years.

    Adding insult to injury the maestro of Manly's 28-10 win at Brookvale was a former lower grader for the Eels.

    Jeff Robson hadn't played first grade since he debuted for the Sea Eagles in 2004 but he stood tall when Manly captain Matt Orford was a late withdrawal with a abductor injury and had complete control when their five-eighth former Test star Jamie Lyon limped off after just 17 minutes with a worrying medial ligament injury to his knee.

    "He only found out an hour before kick-off," said Manly coach Des Hasler of 25-year-old Robson.

    "It's testimony to the kid. He did a great job and certainly stepped up for us tonight.

    "It was a pretty gutsy win and I just thought we showed the resolve that's in the side."

    While Orford expects to be back for next Sunday's clash against the Roosters Lyon could be gone for six games while prop Jason King's looking at a lengthy lay-off after reinjuring ankle ligaments just two weeks after his return.

    "The early diagnosis is not good," Hasler said of King.

    "He may have refractured his ankle and I really feel for him."

    Despite the disruptions the Sea Eagles hit the go button after leading 10-6 at halftime to finish dominant six try to two winners as the Eels slumped to their third straight defeat.

    Robson ran the show but it was their outside backs who dominated with centre Steve Mattai grabbing two tries and fullback Brett Stewart playing an integral part in all their attack.

    A magical tap on behind his back at pace produced Matta's second try as Manly showed even without their playmakers they can dominate teams.
    scored first when hooker Mark Riddell, who'd switched to five-eighth charged over and they looked to have second only for Chad Robinson to be ruled held up by referee Shayne Hayne.

    Eels fullback Jarryd Hayne was blowing up at his namesake two minutes later when the referee ignored his protests after Manly hooker Matt Ballin charged over from close range for his side's first try.

    Hayne had made the previous tackle on Manly backrower Glenn Stewart and replays showed he'd then pushed the Eels defender out of the way preventing him from making a fair tackle on Ballin.

    Centre Steve Bell then butchered a try when he ignored veteran Steve Meanzies in support but made amends a minute before the break as he put winger David Williams over in the corner for a 10-6 lead.

    Manly bound-winger Tony Williams levelled it up a minute after the break when Finch spotted the Sea Eagles outside backs drifting infield and lobbed one wide for the young rookie to score a soft try.

    However another shocker from whistleblower Hayne hurt the Eels minutes later when Reddy was penalised for taking the ball off Brett Stewart even though he'd wom it fair and square.

    Inside the next set backrower Watmough crashed over from dummy half and Williams added the extras.

    He made it a 10-point lead when he crashed over ducked under his namesake after great lead-up work by the Stewart brothers.

    The game as good as gone midway through the half when Kiwi Test centre Steve Mattai scored after an inside ball from Menzies found Watmough who ran the best part of 40 metres before drawing Hayne.

    Mattai scored his last in the 69th minute as manly thrilled 18970 fans at Brookvale Oval.

    "I thought without Orford and then Lyon we were a genuine hope," said Eels coach Michal Hagan.

    "We're in parts of every hame at the moment but we're not applying consistent effort over 80 minutes.

    "We said we'd need to win five from eight last week (to make the finals) and now it's five from seven and we've got a few tough games coming up."
  13. Berkeley_Eagle

    Berkeley_Eagle Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan

    +2,125 /14
    Werewolf runs amok at Brookie

    By Nick Walshaw

    July 18, 2008

    THERE was a full moon over Brookvale Oval and a werewolf on the loose.

    Manly winger David Williams, arguably the hairiest NRL star since Geoff Robinson, bagged 12 points as the Sea Eagles scored their second improbable win over Parramatta for 2008.

    Sure, 'Choc' Watmough was ferocious and fullback Brett Stewart provided one of the year's great flick passes. But still the crowd cheered loudest for Williams.

    This is a rugby league cult hero who almost never was. He dodged death during childhood when he was rushed to hospital with a tree branch - yes, a tree branch - protruding from his stomach.

    The story goes that "Werewolf" was climbing a giant eucalypt or something similar in his neighbour's back yard - chasing a paper aeroplane of all things - when he slipped and fell. A rogue branch pierced his stomach and finished only millimetres from his liver.

    But not even a tree planted bang in the middle of Brookie could've stopped him last night.

    Because after appearing on The Footy Show on Thursday night, Werewolf kicked his hairy highlights reel into top gear against the Eels - causing plenty of mayhem on the right flank and booting goals in the absence of Orford.

    A former Parramatta junior, his efforts only added further insult to the Eels, who suffered their third consecutive loss, while cementing himself as a new Brookvale favourite.

    But there were plenty of home-grown heroes to pick from last night.

    Because despite looking more M*A*S*H than Manly, the Eagles still went to the break leading 10-6 thanks largely to the work of Matt Ballin and Williams.

    Ballin gave the hosts their first points in the 28th minute when he burrowed between three defenders to score beside the posts. The Wolf duly converted.
  14. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +3,894 /65
    :eek: :eek: :eek: I am in shock DSM  ;D

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