This must happen

[lsz]

Newsflash, please come back on when you have something worth telling us.

To be fair it is a pretty well thought out argument- the question is do you agree with the points (such as Api)

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I like Api, but I like Hastings better!!

AND, he can kick goals......note to Twenty......get it done!!

 

[Technical Coach]

Jesus Reading all this you would think we sit proudly atop the NRL table with a title all but guaranteed.We are 4 and 4 and one loss from being in a ****fight with a tough few weeks ahead with games on the road.

Newsflash. We are still rated about 11th or 12th by all betting agencies and are odds on to miss the eight.

I have said many times we have plenty of talent but a weak spine. Almost without exception the top sides have strong spines. Talent gets nowhere without the keys to unlocking it.

I stand by my opinion. if API continues to start and play a lot more minutes than Hastings we will miss the eight.On a longer term basis if we can't find a better 6 than Green we will not improve greatly in the next couple of years regardless of talent.

Fix the above and we are top 4 side. Don't and we scrap for lower part of the eight for the foreseeable future.

Yes and no, i see your point though.

Too many people who analyze the game get caught up with "spine this spine that" without much deeper thought to the performance needs of each individual club.----basically lost in the media analysis of "Melb's Spine" being the be all and end all of improved performance.

I wouldn't say Cronulla have a great spine but have improved in the sharpness, power and playing off the cuff from offloads areas. Cronulla really have outperformed themselves with limited resources exactly like Manly under Des.

Manly should focus on being able to sustain the intensity, directness, power and punch of their go forward for long periods by recruiting along these lines, with a more disciplined straight power approach. This will give Manly enough consistency in performance to reach the lower half of the eight and then the spine can execute the finishing touches off the back of this platform.

Yes Api's ball distribution is poor but his feature set will flourish behind more direct powerful punch---he is also a danger off second phase play through the middle, while Api is our hooker we need to shorten our passing play flat and direct at the line with good power and punch behind the ruck.

If the Dragons can maintain the intensity and directness of their game they should easily make the eight just by improving in these areas.

In short patches Manly do play simple and direct with power, the first set or two against Canberra showed easy good yardage off the back of this, even an injured Martin Taupau makes a big difference.

Manly just lack consistent back up in this area to continue the momentum, we lack the attacking structures(slowly improving) but have enough individual attacking potency to work off the back of punch and offloads for the time being.

 

[lsz]

I get your point here Isz , from my point of view I'd like Susan to explain the contradiction between the original post and the latest version because the declarations at the start of last month are saying that the poster knows better than the coach and I disagree

Fair call although I am not sure it was declaration

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

@Forty Baskets the master of hindsight

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

If I am highlighting your issue then you must be pleased.

When you began digging up long-gone threads I liked it because of the insight they provide into the rich history of this site. However I am starting to wonder if you are doing it simply to make fun of people? Say it ain't so.

We all write our opinions on here and I suppose it's not hard to find examples where we've been shown to be wrong. You of course are immune to this because we can't identify your historical opinions, hence we can't contradict your (implied) claims never to have been wrong about anything.

 

[Fro]

Newsflash, please come back on when you have something worth telling us.

By your infantile logic we would never see you post again, which I cant say would be much of a loss TBH.

Is it any wonder that posters with a reasonable amount to add such as @susan , @Matabele , @Canteen Worker @Technical Coach etc etc simply don't bother?

with fools like you, @Forty Baskets and a few others who seem to get great delight in picking the smallest thing and fixating on it. I would really hate to be a girl you set your sights on young fella.

Most of what you post is valid and well thought out, you wear your heart on your sleeve and thats a great thing, you give it you take it, and thats admirable. but taking free swings at long term posters who don't (or at least very rarely) stoop to crap like that is not needed.

keep posting mate, but just think a bit more in future please.

<cue torrent of abuse in reply>

 

[mave]

I'm too scared to type opinions any more, in case I'm proven wrong in the future, and Forty will laugh at me.

 

[Fluffy]

I'm too scared to type opinions any more, in case I'm proven wrong in the future, and Forty will laugh at me.

i'm worried i might get one right

 

[Fro]

i'm worried i might get one right

You'll be fine mate, not much chance of that 😛

 

[Holmsey]

By your infantile logic we would never see you post again, which I cant say would be much of a loss TBH.

Is it any wonder that posters with a reasonable amount to add such as @susan , @Matabele , @Canteen Worker @Technical Coach etc etc simply don't bother?

with fools like you, @Forty Baskets and a few others who seem to get great delight in picking the smallest thing and fixating on it. I would really hate to be a girl you set your sights on young fella.

Most of what you post is valid and well thought out, you wear your heart on your sleeve and thats a great thing, you give it you take it, and thats admirable. but taking free swings at long term posters who don't (or at least very rarely) stoop to crap like that is not needed.

keep posting mate, but just think a bit more in future please.

<cue torrent of abuse in reply>

Sorry mum.

 

[midsteyne]

I am so confused,WTF just happened😕

 

[susan]

Changed my mind , can't be bothered any more. Feel free to check my recent statements on here as Enigma , no deception here I logged off and couldn't seem to get back on .

Here is my much anticipated explanation you believe I "owe"you.Whatever that means.

My view is still the same.It is not rocket science. If we keep playing API at nine and give Hastings not much time in the role ( add to that losing a couple of games from poor goalkicking) and keep picking Green I think we will finish in the bottom 4 or 5 as current betting suggests.

Whether it is last or 12th I don't really care. It will be a waste of the obvious talent we have elsewhere in the team and the season will be extremely disappounting. More importantly it will not be good for the following years as those guys in my opinion are not long term options at all.

In other words my opinion has not changed at all in regard to glaring weaknesses in an otherwise talented team.To suggest this is totally negative is rubbish. I have highlighted the great talent I think we have in our team in many other posts.

And as a supporter for 40 years I hope I'm wrong.It is merely my opinion and frankly is worth no more than anyone else's on here. Every chance I'm wrong. So what. It is a discussion forum.

How is your opinion that we are going along just dandy any different to my opinion that we need to make changes. Seems to me that 26 dollars to win comp and a projected 12th by neutral judges hardly backs your view of eternal optimism but i have no problem with you posting your opinion and that is the essential difference between us. I don't require anyone to "owe " me an explanation for their thoughts.

But one thing I am certain of - I certainly don't need to ask your permission to post my opinion.

 

[Shells Eagles]

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn

 

[Holmsey]

Here is my much anticipated explanation you believe I "owe"you.Whatever that means.

My view is still the same.It is not rocket science. If we keep playing API at nine and give Hastings not much time in the role ( add to that losing a couple of games from poor goalkicking) and keep picking Green I think we will finish in the bottom 4 or 5 as current betting suggests.

Whether it is last or 12th I don't really care. It will be a waste of the obvious talent we have elsewhere in the team and the season will be extremely disappounting. More importantly it will not be good for the following years as those guys in my opinion are not long term options at all.

In other words my opinion has not changed at all in regard to glaring weaknesses in an otherwise talented team.To suggest this is totally negative is rubbish. I have highlighted the great talent I think we have in our team in many other posts.

And as a supporter for 40 years I hope I'm wrong.It is merely my opinion and frankly is worth no more than anyone else's on here. Every chance I'm wrong. So what. It is a discussion forum.

How is your opinion that we are going along just dandy any different to my opinion that we need to make changes. Seems to me that 26 dollars to win comp and a projected 12th by neutral judges hardly backs your view of eternal optimism but i have no problem with you posting your opinion and that is the essential difference between us. I don't require anyone to "owe " me an explanation for their thoughts.

But one thing I am certain of - I certainly don't need to ask your permission to post my opinion.

No need to change a winning team where everyone is doing their jobs and playing great. Goal kicking can improve but he's all we can use. Hastings won't play 80 minutes. So we stick with Walker. And the betting markets are in no way and implication of how a team is placed going forward.

 

[winnyason]

"A pretty talented team that is coached poorly " but just a few weeks ago it was Northern Eagles all over again and the only four players you would retain are the Turbos , Cherry and Kelly. See if your mate Blind Freddy can enlighten us on this apparent contradiction.
So despite having a poor coach, we now have a pretty talented team of 4 players and over a dozen discards? God knows what you will be declaring next week,let alone at the end of the season.
Who says " One win makes a season" ? Nobody rational would ever say that.

Do you live with your parents in the basement and by looks of it have not found pornhub as you have too much time on your hands or which ever hand is free from tissues ?

 

[Fluffy]

Do you live with your parents in the basement and by looks of it have not found pornhub as you have too much time on your hands or which ever hand is free from tissues ?

Being a bit hard there, need to get a grip. I mean who gives a toss what else he is up to. No need to rub him out like that.

 

[winnyason]

Being a bit hard there, need to get a grip. I mean who gives a toss what else he is up to. No need to rub him out like that.

Maybe there a cream forty baskets uses ?

 

[Ryan]

Come on everyone, our team is performing. Api is playing just fine at the moment. Let's not turn on each other!!

We are all a community here.

Forty has only been around a short while, and is taking his time to post here. He's obviously a very intelligent fellow. He posts the way he posts - let's treat him with respect and dignity.

 

[winnyason]

One thing I'm not doing, is putting a Northern Eagles jumper on and cheering them to a wooden spoon as you are in your simple mind !