The V'Landy's era .. Pass or fail poll

[frank stokes]

Bingo - give this man a prize.

For me, the answer is revealed by the fact that I didn't watch a single minute of live football over the weekend. Not a single minute of the sport I have enjoyed and followed above all other sports for near on fifty years.

I did however go and watch an A Grade game - it was a ripper of a contest. Some awesome defence. The NRL must have forgotten to send their directive out to the local teams.

I have Kayo yet I only watched the first half of the Tigpies / Riff game - which was enough to put me off entirely...

I am to the point that if it is not Manly then I could not be bothered investing myself into a game that is ultimately going to be decided by sh*t refereeing or skirts laying on the ground pretending to be hurt until they get the penalty....

I actually watched some NBA which was more physical than some of the NRL games I have been watching lately and you can love-tap a blokes chin 6 times before they eject you...

As for V'landys - great as an administrator, sh*t as an adjudicator.... you can leave me out whilst ever he is making mid-season changes to the game...

https://tenor.com/view/****ing-embarrassing-coach-letter-kenny-embarrassed-gif-14474570

 

[jbb/james]

he did well last year. i think it went to his head as he has gone pretty poor this year. his secret in the tv deals smells bad. he has failed to understand that players and fans are the game

as a fan do i like the game under his leadership.....no and its not the head high or biffo stuff where he lost me

 

[HoldenV8]

I um'd and ah'd about a pass mark, but went for needs to be better.

Look, some good things have been done, no doubt. But the NRL still runs off knee-jerk reactions. Yes I fully support the current high tackle crackdown. What I don't support is suddenly cracking down on things in mid-season. I wish the NRL would take a page from the AFL's playbook and set things in stone at the start of the season. If something proves wrong, bad luck and deal with it at seasons end, but not mid-season or even mid-round.

 

[Pete W]

Without a doubt, V'Landys is the best chairman the nrl has ever had the privilege of being led by. I think we will look back when all the dust settles, and truly fathom the growth and progress rugby league will have made (and long over-due!) under his leadership.

Having said that...he's not exactly an expert on the mechanics of the game itself - and whilst we all agree with the intent behind his tinkerings of the rules etc, hopefully he can learn to better consult with the professional coaches and analysts so as to better implement some of these much-needed changes

 

[Scorpio]

Without a doubt, V'Landys is the best chairman the nrl has ever had the privilege of being led by. I think we will look back when all the dust settles, and truly fathom the growth and progress rugby league will have made (and long over-due!) under his leadership.

After reading this I had to double check that your user name wasn't Pete V

 

[chuckee]

He’s a great administrator but he shouldn’t be the one tampering with the rules, the game was fine as it was for 100+ years, it was the officials fault for not using interpretations and being inconsistent.
They need to wind back the 6 agains to penalties again or just make 6 agains for ruck infringements. Bring back scrums. Don’t go back 2 sets of 6 for a minor discrepancy, if there’s illegal play the match review committee will pick it up..
So I think he needs to be better.

 

[Pete W]

After reading this I had to double check that your user name wasn't Pete V

I can assure you that the AFL **** themselves when news got out that he was taking over the NRL commission. I honestly believe we should get behind him

 

[Damien2812]

Navigated the Covid situation last year great but that's where it stops for me. I have never liked the 6 again set restart and the new interpretation change for high shots during the season is amatuerish.
This Wednesday we will witness the very 1st State of Touch spectacle. lol..

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

V'landys got rid of Greenberg so that is a very high pass mark before anything else is even considered.
Since then, he's steered the ship through some dangerous waters.
But! Some of the crew are starting to talk mutiny... and an esssential part of leadership is keeping the troops onside and in line.
So like with Debelin, the jury is still out (haha) as to whether he's the messiah or just another naughty hard-nosed businessman.

 

[Ranga]

I can assure you that the AFL **** themselves when news got out that he was taking over the NRL commission. I honestly believe we should get behind him

I think everyone did get behind him when he commenced his time as chairman (he’s really an executive chair). So if he has lost people along the way, it’s completely on him and due to his actions.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

So if he has lost people along the way, it’s completely on him and due to his actions.

At least he takes actions!

 

[Ranga]

At least he takes actions!

He was great during COVID. But in the case of changing the rules and punishments on the run, I think I'd prefer someone who is prone to less or more considered action (e.g., trials and / or consultation, which are not hard).

 

[ManEagle]

Or talking to brick walls.

After they get laid. That's normal isn't it

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

'd prefer someone who is prone to less or more considered action (e.g., trials and / or consultation, which are not hard).

In theory they are not hard.
In the case of sub-concussive head impacts the NRL has had its head in the sand for about 5 years. Something has prompted the urgent change! And based on V'Landys's track record you'd think it would have something to do with dollars and cents.
I'm not a fan of his ethics but that is the area he has a good instinct for.

 

[ManEagle]

At this stage of his is tenour he needs to do better. He did well during Corvid, getting rid of Slimeburg and cutting back the high exclusive expenses.
I thought he would be what we needed at the time and still think he may end up being very good but ......

Since then mid season major changes and crackdowns without warning changing the dynamic of the game without proper due process has led to unintended consequences, which to be fair may level out but are yet to,so can only vote in the now not what may come of it.

The changes have given ref's more control over the outcome of a game than ever before but hasn't improved the ref's accountability or process to get the big decisions consistent and right, so until he improves the performance of the ref's and consistencey of application, including bunker processes, he needs to do better specially if giving them more influence on outcomes.

The 6 again I am not a fan of, to inconsistent and unfair depending on field position and tackle number it is given, it may have been ok with a few changes to what was classed as 6 agains and where implemented but was rushed through without due process which may have improved the outcome of it.

A crackdown on deliberate or severe headshots and would go further for serious foul play needed to be done but again rushed through leading to over zealous implementing on love taps, where a more considered approach may have came with a better outcome.

It's coming across as arrogant and inclusive decision making with no consideration to fans or worse, players, just being told this is the way it is rather than being consulted.

By the end of his time he may well be very good only time will tell. Presently he needs to do better.

 

[Pete W]

I think everyone did get behind him when he commenced his time as chairman (he’s really an executive chair). So if he has lost people along the way, it’s completely on him and due to his actions.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy".
Martin Luther King Jr.

People whinged about the wrestle
People whinged about concussion
People whinge.. so it will, so it always will be

The NRL needs a strong leader to act decisively and make the hard calls.

Approval ratings have never been a reflection of a leader's success. It's only in retrospect that the great ones get recognised

 

[QueefRichards]

Channel Nine and Fox lobbied hard for him to be installed as chair and he then sold them the TV rights for tens of millions of dollars per year less than market value.

Great success if you're the media. a real failure of the NRL to protect itself by any other measure

 

[Ranga]

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy".
Martin Luther King Jr.

People whinged about the wrestle
People whinged about concussion
People whinge.. so it will, so it always will be

The NRL needs a strong leader to act decisively and make the hard calls.

Approval ratings have never been a reflection of a leader's success. It's only in retrospect that the great ones get recognised

Yes, the NRL needs a strong leader to act decisively but they also need to make the right calls.

PVL is crash or crash through and it worked during COVID. It worked on cutting the fat out of head office. But taking the same approach on basically everything, and most importantly rule changes, just highlights his limitations.

You think he is doing a good job and people should get behind him. That's fine. I respect that perspective. But to me his biggest weakness is glaring, being that he seems to think his opinion is the only one that matters. For example, stating that "the game is more exciting now" as fact just reeks of arrogance, particularly when the grassroots are telling him it simply is not.

 

[Pete W]

Yes, the NRL needs a strong leader to act decisively but they also need to make the right calls.

PVL is crash or crash through and it worked during COVID. It worked on cutting the fat out of head office. But taking the same approach on basically everything, and most importantly rule changes, just highlights his limitations.

You think he is doing a good job and people should get behind him. That's fine. I respect that perspective. But to me his biggest weakness is glaring, being that he seems to think his opinion is the only one that matters. For example, stating that "the game is more exciting now" as fact just reeks of arrogance, particularly when the grassroots are telling him it simply is not.

Fair point

 

[Dion Johnson]

Failure from my perspective, Vlandy’s is an old school operator, 3 decades ago he may have been successful.

He has cut through some red tape to make the decision process more streamline, however being assertive as he has been could well lead to an early exit.

Not engaging all stake holders in decision making is a huge flaw in a leader.

A great strategy in aligning with the media to his gain, he has great supporters in the media