The No-Look News (Schuster Chronicles)

[HK_Eagle]

Especially when you are being paid $800k for the privilege. I'd give up fast food for that amount of money.

Just to be clear, my frustration with the junk food was specifically because he is a well-paid professional sports person. I don’t care if people choose to eat junk, that’s up to them… but, making that choice while collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars AND not performing, stinks.

 

[Uk eagle]

At a guess, his best mate died in the Manly training facilities. He then had to relive that all at the start of the year through court proceedings, and every day he walks into the Manly facilities it is a reminder of it. Hopefully getting away from that every day will help the bloke

We have all lost people close to us in different circumstances. The best thing you can do is to try and make those people proud of you.... Do it for them. I can't see how anyone can be proud of Schu's efforts. He is typical of a lot of young people nowadays... It's all me me me. He has to be the centre of attention. Someone needs to be hard with him and remind him that a footballers career is over in the blink of an eye. By the time he comes to terms with it it's too late. I hate to see him wasting his talent and I guess his best mate Keith wouldn't be best pleased too. It may sound harsh but so what, someone needs to give him a real good shake

 

[TokyoEagle]

If Manly has the option of dissolving the contract due to not meeting performance based contracts and they decide to pay Josh 200 K for the next 3 year they should stipulate that all of the money goes to Josh. Tartak should get nothing as he didn't look after the welfare of his client.

 

[ManlyTragic]

Especially when you are being paid $800k for the privilege. I'd give up fast food for that amount of money.

I think the kid has more serious issues than fast food. His issues have being going on for some time now….

Just sayin’

 

[eaglebuzz]

I think the kid has more serious issues than fast food. His issues have being going on for some time now….

Just sayin’

Yes but at $800k p.a. he could also afford a good psychologist.

Seriously what other profession tolerates an employee on that kind of money being totally useless for it?

 

[ManlyTragic]

Yes but at $800k p.a. he could also afford a good psychologist.

Seriously what other profession tolerates an employee on that kind of money being totally useless for it?

Money doesn’t solve all problems…

Just sayin’

 

[HK_Eagle]

Money doesn’t solve all problems…

Just sayin’

Of course it doesn’t… but it gives us access to the resources to help work through our $hit.

 

[Frogz]

I wonder if the $600k we give him to go away, comes totally out of this years cap, or we carry the legacy for another 3 years

 

[Eagle 1]

Paying Schu $400K for 2024 and $200K/season for 2025-27 (= $1M) seems like a very good outcome for us. Worst case scenario could've been we had to pay $800k + $2.4M for 4 years (= $3.2M). Hopefully Schu has a very good outcome at the end of all this too.

And having the 1m staggered out over this year and the following 3 yrs, takes the pain out of it a bit.

 

[Will on the hill]

I wonder if the $600k we give him to go away, comes totally out of this years cap, or we carry the legacy for another 3 years

Yeah that'll be interesting. If we can't make a significant signing this year It'd be nice if we could pay him out a lump sum and have it off the books going forward.

 

[JenEagle]

Very disappointing result. He’s been with us since he was 14 and we supported and paid him very well based on potential.

 

[Andrew..]

I wonder if we pay him $200,000 for 3 years if he signs with another club.

 

[TokyoEagle]

So, from my understanding, with him not meeting performance goals set up in the contract, we actually don't owe him anything but are doing this out of the goodness of our hearts. If that is the case, I do applaud management for standing by a young man who has put in a lot of effort and has suffered some pain during his years at the club.

 

[Heckenberg]

Yes but at $800k p.a. he could also afford a good psychologist.

Seriously what other profession tolerates an employee on that kind of money being totally useless for it?

I’m almost certain the club would provide welfare support and psychologists for players in these sort of circumstances.

 

[Ryan]

So, from my understanding, with him not meeting performance goals set up in the contract, we actually don't owe him anything but are doing this out of the goodness of our hearts. If that is the case, I do applaud management for standing by a young man who has put in a lot of effort and has suffered some pain during his years at the club.

It's good for him.

But it sets the club, the cap, the fans back for the next 2.5 years (because that's 1.5 top 30 players).

Tell you what, those Dragons negotiators must be worth their pinch.

Mario Tartak has really bent our club over, and gone in dry the last 3-4 years.

 

[The '47ers]

Here you go Josh, here's 200k/yr for the next three years to do absolutely nothing.
My boy will be 150kg in no time, that'll be the end of his NRL "dream".

 

[Cameron]

It's good for him.

But it sets the club, the cap, the fans back for the next 2.5 years (because that's 1.5 top 30 players).

Tell you what, those Dragons negotiators must be worth their pinch.

Mario Tartak has really bent our club over, and gone in dry the last 3-4 years.

Hey Ryan hope your well bro.
I not sure how you work out 1.5 players it's 600000 total 200000 a season one player.

 

[nightster]

Yes but at $800k p.a. he could also afford a good psychologist.

Seriously what other profession tolerates an employee on that kind of money being totally useless for it?

Polititian springs to mind

 

[Ryan]

Hey Ryan hope your well bro.
I not sure how you work out 1.5 players it's 600000 total 200000 a season one player.

Hey mate, I'm well, hope the same is said for you !

The minimum salary for a player in the top 30 is $120k (in 23 btw). So by my way of thinking, removing 200k is like 1.5 minimum earning contracted players.

I'm just gutted we are giving up on Schuster. He was so exciting, and has so much potential. He was really someone to look forward to seeing grow and develop.

I Just feel this situation is helping nobody. Can't the club give him individual care and focus? They invested so much into him, and his development asa youth. Now though, we let him go, and then pay for the privilege, and that $200k per year? The other players have to carry that loss now.

 

[frank stokes]

I Just feel this situation is helping nobody. Can't the club give him individual care and focus? They invested so much into him, and his development asa youth. Now though, we let him go, and then pay for the privilege, and that $200k per year? The other players have to carry that loss now.

I feel like the club have already poured a lot of resources into the Schu and showed they were “all-in” on him by offering the massive 3 year contract (“massive” being relative to his (lack of) form at that time)…

JMO (and I am not privy to what has gone on behind-the-scenes) but it appears this may have been a case of being able to bring a horse to water but not being able to make it drink…

Personally I am stoked that the club is setting standards and is prepared to say “enough” when players do not meet them - it has been clear to anyone watching that the Schu’s level of fitness and effort was not NRL-level (and has not been for a long time)…

we have had a soft underbelly at Manly for waaaaay too long and perhaps Mestrov and Seibs are the men to change all that…